Anonymous #1 5d

zionism is hijacking the jewish faith to try and justify them destroying an entire people and their land, all in the name of a “promise” made “3000 years ago.” in reality the british promised palestine, land that wasn’t theirs, to the zionists as a deal, in the beginning of the 20th century. do your research. cause if anyone is “SLOW AS FUCK” it’s you and all the other genocidal zionists.

21

Anonymous #1 5d

this is about greed, power, and pure evil, being disguised as a religious fight. it’s not. there’s palestinian jews that the israeli government is murdering too. they don’t care. because to them it’s not actually about judaism. stop being delulu

18

Anonymous #1 5d

if you actually read about the formation of zionism you'd actually understand that zionism isn't some uniquely evil product of Jewry. it's the product of the colonial circlejerk that is europe and its white former colonies. Theodor Herzl literally described zionism as colonial and early zionists debated between creating a Jewish state in Alaska, Palestine, and either Africa or South America (i forget which). they chose Palestine because it was easier to get support from CHRISTIAN EUROPEANS.

14

Anonymous #2 5d

zionism isn't novel in its cruelty and brutality, and if you think it is you aren't educated on the history of (settler) colonialism; just like the nazis used american manifest destiny as a playbook to do the holocaust. Trump wants to make Palestine a beach resort, similar to how occupied Hawaiʻi is today (half of Native Hawaiians live in diaspora btw, forced out not by bombs but the will of capital).

6

Anonymous #2 5d

so because it’s not original or “novel” it’s fine ??? bro what. idk i lowkey feel like we’re on the same side here but you’re nitpicking and trying to turn this into an aha gotcha moment when it’s not 😭😭 idc if it’s original or not, zionism is evil. colonialism is evil. genocide is evil. that’s the bottom line.

1

Anonymous #2 5d

and this next part isn’t toward you directly, it’s just in case i wasn’t clear for anyone else, antisemitism is evil. it is NOT welcome here. no form of hate is. we are just spreading awareness and advocating for a free palestine. please take hate elsewhere because it’s not tolerated here. thank you everyone !!!

1

Anonymous OP 5d

i'm Native, i KNOW it's evil 😭😭 i'm saying it's not new because it's not unique to Jews lol

13

Anonymous #2 5d

i agree with you as a palestinian abolitionist who was forced into exile and settling on turtle island. i don’t involve myself in discussions like these because yeah i hate antisemites trying to hijack our struggle and get us associated with them (which isn’t even logical because our interests could not be more diametrically opposed!) but every time centrists who support palestine respond to actual antisemitism, they always insist on an overton window framework for judaism.

3

Anonymous #3 5d

as a descendant of the first christians, my faith was used to annihilate your people. the white settlers who did both the genocidal settler colonialism of 1492 that continues into today and bleeds into our every day lives as acceptable violence and the maafa (transatlantic slave trade) was the way that america did its primitive accumulation and how capitalism’s onset was consolidated - colonial and plunder and slavery generated racial capitalism and that’s why class here is racialized too.

4

Anonymous #3 5d

they also said we weren’t christians to us and armenians because we didn’t go through rome and we did go under hella persecution and the ottomans centralized the greek orthodox church in palestine to generate hostility between greek orthodox and melkite catholic christians. it doesn’t matter that they distorted rewrote and used that scripture which still didn’t align with all the atrocities they did well after the crusades to launder settler colonialism and extractive resource crusades

6

Anonymous #3 5d

-under the guise of missionaries. there really hasn’t been a coherent definition for it but people can’t grapple with its fluidity bc that would challenge their worldview. yes, most jewish do not support the full decolonization of palestine from the river to the sea, nor the armed guerilla resistance and decolonization of turtle island. that wasn’t historically the case because it is empire’s fault but doesn’t make institutions that sell our land and fund genocide under U.S. taxes less

7

Anonymous #3 5d

-complicit but it’s important for people to realize that complicity is relational indigenous abolitionists at times extend ACAB to tribal police to because the role sometimes has demanded turning inwards. but yeah most jews being zionist doesn’t mean all are. and yes there still needs to be more introspection because everyone with verifiable ancestry has a birthright to my village that no longer exists and they need to reckon with and further this rupture that only began 80 years too late

5

Anonymous #3 5d

and insisting on “zionism isnt judaism” when zionism naturally captures most institutions rather than people who use their faith oh and yeah i do say this about islam when it comes to wahhabi salafis, pakistan, UAE in sudan. and yes most majoritarian nation states operate via yt supremacy bc the statescraft is foreign and scaffolded through european pseudoscientific racial paradigms

8

Anonymous #3 5d

and yes zionism is white supremacist but people don’t realize that whiteness isn’t a coherent reality. armenians and syrians who settled in america along with indians had various cases ruled against and in favor of their whiteness and some of the arguments were “we are 4r4yn (censored)” for punjabis because the language comes from prakrit which is an indic and thus indo european language and armenians and syrians using Yasu/Jesus I believe and their proximity to his land to be considered yt

6

Anonymous #3 5d

so u don’t have to be white to uphold white supremacy. you can be a hispanic ICE officer and be yt supremacist. this is rampant in a lot of postcolonial societies. LatAm needs decol too mexico did a genocide against the yaqui people the only restitution that empire offers is incorporation into the very genocidal settler colonial superstructures that once oppressed the people where then incorporated into it, and now even benefit from it (conditionally; they can be disposed at any time).

9

Anonymous #3 5d

and this restitution was bringing ‘mizrahi’ (orientalist pejorative and monolith of ‘oriental’ jewry) out of literal transit camps and apartheid and including them in their settler project it begins as quasi mercenarism and then they’re part of the fabric. a lot of war crimes are also committed by them they are brainwashed into the hyper nationalism and killing that they do of us palestinians regularly. sometimes they use the fact that they were in transit camps as an excuse from reckoning

9

Anonymous #3 5d

with their complicity. and same with americans using the oppression of indigenous people of Abya Yala (LatAm) as an excuse to police LatAm. this is all while they’re mass disenrolling natives, imposing blood quantum racial purity logic (when indigeneity is a social relation), and literally letting yt settler men kill r*pe and mass dissapear indigenous women with no accountability bc of so many different problems all stemming from america. a lot of indians similarly use british raj

7

Anonymous #3 5d

and ignore the continuity, the nation-state they inhabit that has always been in bed with israel while performatively ‘recognizing’ palestine and inviting traitor yasser arafat (while using mossad to massacre sikhs in 1984, and use white phosphorus in their occupation of kashmir) + use same logic israel does in gaza against adivasis in chattisgarh, and the jharkhand-odisha tract. and yeah mossad literally recruited nazis. SS officers into the nuclear program and other areas.

7

Anonymous #3 5d

so we do know it’s yt supremacist. but the amount of times these conversations insist on a clear separation or end up centering jewish voices over palestinian ones as we literally get murdered daily is sooo frustrating. they will call u antisemitic for anything. i have been doxxed countless times. mamdani is also called antisemitic because he’s muslim; islamophobia and orientalism was institutionalized after 9/11 pretty bad and us literally made DAESH/isis. they will always do that because

4

Anonymous #3 5d

he’s brown at the end of the day. they are white supremacist. despite this, he’s an establishment politician. he condemns decolonization because his position as a u.s. (settler colony) politician demands him to. jessica tisch is still in the NYPD despite her fam inviting netanyahu for dinner. and the ‘arrest netanyahu’ was a grift off of our blood to gain faith back into the electoral system and the democratic party which oversaw a lot of our genocide. bc ppl saw evil is bipartisan 🫩

9

Anonymous OP 4d

So do you think Israel should exist? Like aside from Zionism. Should Israel exist as a Jewish state while still following international law

-1

Anonymous #4 4d

Probably not, based on their third worldist diatribe any nation of non-brown people is evil, and deserves to be dismantled

2

Anonymous #1 4d

It's also untrue that there are palestinian jews, they are majority muslim with a few percent christian

-1

Anonymous #3 4d

"turtle island"

-1

Anonymous #1 4d

mask off anti-Indigenous lmao

1