This guy has some good and bad ideas. Congestion tolls and free/revamped public transportation is a huge plus obviously, his socialist idea of gov. run grocery stores is ambitious and I would say definitely possible in the future as farming tech progresses more, even if it were to fail today. However adding more regulations to housing will only jack up the rents. Rent control is proven to never work. To fix a housing crisis there needs to be significantly fewer zoning and property regulations
Welfare is socialism. Its not profit motivated like capitalism, where everyone makes the best choice for themselves. To each their own. Welfare is a direct result of capitalismโs market failure to actually give society what it needs (and not what it wants) bc whats good for everyone isnt affordable for everyone.
Capitalism needs consumers, and consumers need money to spend. Without income support, demand dries up and markets stall. Welfare keeps money flowing, especially during downturns, and prevents collapse. It stabilizes the system and reduces unrest. Itโs not a failure of capitalism, but a core mechanism of it for supporting competition in a free market
Exactly bc the market proponents would always strive for more power. Powerful companies change laws based on their profit margins and shareholder value, which is more often than not detrimental to other components of the market. It wouldโve stabilised the system as you said but only if there was proper taxation, thus maintaining a more equitable society. Free markets donโt work- standard oil, detroit big three, luxotica. Dont even get me started on private equity
Nah dude, this ainโt about being against common sense, itโs about being against straight up reckless ideas. Thereโs nothing common sense about abolishing the entire NYPD and shutting down prisons like we donโt have real crime in NY. You seriously think banning all guns while taking away cops is smart? That leaves law abiding people defenseless while criminals run wild. And how is it โcommon senseโ to kill off private health insurance with no clear backup plan?
Thatโs how you crash a healthcare system overnight. Decriminalizing drugs, pushing injection sites, and ending cash bail might sound woke on paper, but in the real world, thatโs how you get more addiction, more crime, and less accountability. Common sense is about balance and protecting the people, this dudeโs plan is a complete teardown with zero blueprint for how to keep the city safe and functioning after. If thatโs your idea of โcommon sense,โ you might wanna check your definition.
I get that a lot of Mamdani's policies sound radical if you're only hearing the headlines or the worst-case interpretations, but I think it's worth looking a little deeper before writing them off as reckless. I donโt think his ideas are reckless, I think they're about rethinking systems that clearly aren't working.
No one's saying to abolish the NYPD overnight. the point is to invest more in mental health, housing, and education, which reduces crime long-term. People advocating for this also believe that mental health professionals could respond to certain 911 calls that police arenโt qualified to handleโthats the idea behind defunding the police
And gun control isn't about leaving people defenseless, it's about keeping weapons out of the wrong hands (like most other developed countries already do). And the private healthcare system leaves millions struggling or in debt, seemingly for no reason other than profit. It also incentivizes the healthcare system to prioritize profit over actually helping people, which just doesnโt work
2) decriminalizing drugs is literally one of the best ways to end addiction, if proper steps are followed afterwards. The threat of prison only scares people into keeping it hidden and not reaching out for help, and then if they do get caught prison itself will only push them deeper, while isolating them by making it impossible to get work once they get out now that they have a โcriminal historyโ. This has been tried over and over and the results are very consistent
Yea Iโve heard lefties say this for years in America. What you really mean by โglobal standardsโ is certain countries in Western Europe, basically. By actual global standards, like if we include the Middle East, the US is quite left of center. And heโs a democratic socialist, not a social democrat, thatโs radical left even in western Europe. Not to mention Europe has been pushed a lot more right lately not even sure your narrative is even accurate anymore anyway.
He wants to do things like a 30 dollar minimum wage, a rent freeze, price controls, these are routinely disastrous communist policies, and we all want most of those things but itโs about the mechanisms by which he would attempt to achieve them which is when things get radical and insane. When a Nazi and a liberal say the sentence โwe just want our country to be safeโ do you think those things mean the same thing?
Yes price controls and rent freezes are actually extremely radical and a core fixture in most communist governments that enforce centrally planned economies. Those are definitely socialist/communist policies absolutely. Iโm not saying welfare or increasing taxes is communist, they arenโt, but those things ABSOLUTELY are communist, and ABSOLUTELY radical.
I guess I would ask you who you believe is more radical than him holding a serious office in the US? And also I canโt tell the difference because socialism and communism are both largely a hypothetical pipe dream (like comparing a unicorn to a leprechaun) and people that call themselves those things push for largely the same things.
Chicken and the egg problem. Some of what you consider the core problem are actually symptoms. Lack of money is a symptom, the desperation is a symptom, the addiction is a symptom. The core problem is lack of opportunity, lack of motivation, poor family dynamics, likely high genetic prevalence of mental health issues, this CAUSES the poverty. Iโm all for increasing accessibility to mental health outreach, surely, but throwing money or housing at the problem does nothing at all.
Yes of course, I just do not believe thatโs meaningfully happening, sorry. Iโve worked in Lawrence at a soup kitchen. The food pantry is over stocked, frankly we throw out tons of bad food, thereโs excesses of it. Homeless donโt always want to be housed because they canโt attend to their addictions in halfway houses, they also hate regimented lifestyles of any kind. Iโm not against solutions but we have to get real about how deep the problem is psychologically.
He literally said he wasnโt going to police free speech you right wingers are so fucking hypocritical because all Iโve heard since Biden beat Trump is that the right is the party of โtrue and absolute free speech.โ But then a brown Muslim says he isnโt going to police free speech and you all use it as an excuse to get racist af on him. And Al-Qaeda carried out 9/11 when the fuck did he say he supports Al-Qaeda?
Thatโs a lazy argument. The political spectrum is always shifting back and forth historically and can be subjective. Whatโs seen as โextremeโ depends on where youโre standing and is subject to change. You can still gather the basic ideas of each sides policy and take good and bad from each without being brainwashed to either side
Rent freezing and control literally never work as planned. One of the truest republican stances is that if you want to fix housing, de-regulate the hell out of it (one of the few industries that actually needs it). Put in place fewer zoning and property laws so more housing can actually be built and the market works itself out. See Austin Texas. This is the way.
The 30s, 40s, and 60s this country swayed more left. New deal era with all the socialist programs, then civil rights era. YOU may not think it leaned left based off how you see the world today, but those are certainly times the country shifted left, and then inevitably shifts back. Itโs a nuanced spectrum
Post Bush Iraq shitshow with Obama? This country certainly swung left for a while. And like I said youโre looking at this through a 2025 lease, which is frankly brain dead. Obviously black people deserve equal rights, but back then it WAS a far left decision itโs not too hard to comprehend. Contrary to what you think it has swayed back and forth
Youโre clearly someone who leans left and I imagine youโre a pretty young person. Not everything is set in stone and just because something makes sense today, you have to realize how drastically different EVERYTHING was even as much as 20 years ago, nvm further back. I get that itโs tough to do but things were different, hence ideologies shift
Ah yes the far left, begrudgingly voting for a center right candidate because the republicans put the entire country into a financial disaster. Thatโs not far left and to act like it is a complete joke. Sorry but thinking that โpeople should equal rightsโ is a common sense issue not a far left issue
I donโt lean left. Iโm barely on the left but because of how far right this country is Iโm labeled a โradical leftistโ by everyone including you. Itโs not ideology shifting because thatโs not how that works. People shift on the political spectrum but the spectrum itself doesnโt shift because if it did, the spectrum would mean absolutely nothing
Youโre confusing the two. The Overton Window is about whatโs socially acceptable to discuss or support in public discourse. The political spectrum is broader and covers actual ideologies, policies, and beliefs, not just whatโs โsayableโ at a given time. I never called you a radical leftist, I said your logic seems off because youโre acting like anything outside your view is โextreme,โ when in reality the definitions shift with context.
No they shift. Thatโs the Overton window. There is never going to be a time where being pro universal healthcare or pro gay rights are seen as โfar right wing ideologyโ. And you keep trying to say that Iโm a leftist when Iโm not. And you said it yourself that anyone whoโs on either end of the spectrum is stupid. You continue to try to label me as a leftist and therefore a moron
Youโre again misusing the Overton Window. And what was considered radical decades ago is mainstream now, and vice versa. Gay rights I can agree with what you said thatโs pretty black and white. With universal healthcare itโs not so simple thereโs a huge range from public options to hybrid systems. You can support parts of it without being some ideological purist. Universal healthcare was far left, but is growing more and more โmoderateโ by global standards. In the future it very well could be
What could possibly happen that would make Universal Healthcare, an objectively socialist system, far right? By your logic there is no such thing as the political spectrum at all because apparently everything can be far left or far right which isnโt at all how a political spectrum works. And given that this comment section is crying over accessible public transit, universal healthcare will never be moderate. But please tell me more about how Iโm a โdangerous radical leftistโ and that my opinion
You saw someone not hating one Mamdani and said that Iโm an evil extremist. Itโs pretty easy to see where you lie with this. Iโm tired of the โyou have to stop assuming thingsโ when Iโm literally right. If I canโt make a single assumption then I canโt have a conversation about anything because you can just go โI donโt believe what I believed 3 seconds ago so therefore youโre an idiotโ
No, Iโm saying donโt just subject yourself to one pov. You might be surprised how much I am potentially on your side. For example this guy, love the free and upgraded transportation idea, the gov run grocery store is interesting and has potential. However, you can at the same time look at things like rent control and freezes (which are proven in markets not to work) and disagree. Every candidate has some good and some bad
I don't know why you're tooth and nailing me on this where I have to fight every little variable when you yourself said you don't belong to the left or right. Surely you see the poison that a two party political system has become for us. I mean the last election was literally between a hedge fund celebrity and a brain diseased man's desperate attempt at diversity
Rent control sounds good in theory but fails in practice. It discourages developers from building new housing and pushes landlords to convert rentals into condos or Airbnbs. Over time you get fewer available units, worse maintenance, and more competition for the same apartments which raises prices for everyone. If you want long-term affordability, the answer is building more housing which comes from deregulation. See how Austin fixed this issue in their city
That makes 0 sense because we already have that problem without rent control, rent is skyrocketing and builders refuse to build anything other than luxury apartments because those are the ones that turn a profit. All while non luxury apartments have the rent jacked up until people can no longer afford to live there so they can demolish the place and turn it into more luxury apartments that people are forced to rent because itโs the only option
Youโre not completely wrong about too much luxury housing but rent control doesnโt fix that, it often makes it worse. Thatโs part of why cities like San Francisco have insane rent prices despite rent control. If you want more affordable housing that isnโt targeted towards the extremes of rich OR poor, the answer is zoning reform and incentives to build more, not tighter price caps that kill supply.
Fine whatever you want. I guess weโll just keep voting for further and further right wing extremists because anyone that runs against them isnโt 100% perfect. You realize why the democrats keep pandering to the right? Because whenever they make something that could vaguely be described as โleftistโ it gets trashed by conservatives for being โevil communismโ and trashed by leftists for not being far left enough
Thatโs just going to incentivize more luxury apartments that nobody can afford but will live in because itโs the only option. You canโt just let landlords raise rent with 0 consequences because why wouldnโt they just make more money off the infinite money maker they have? Youโre asking them to keep rent low out of the goodness of their hearts when they have none
They "pander to the right" because they are the right. They are paid by the same people to make the same decisions. "What people?" You ask? Corporations!!!! Anything to save a dollar. Maybe we have to sacrifice some city in the Middle East but at least Lockheed Martins stock price will go up
So your solution is to vote for the people that are even further right? Democrats have literally said that is the exact reason theyโre shifting the right because no matter what, nothing is good enough so might as well try to syphon votes from the only people that actually get up and vote
Landlords canโt raise rent infinitely if we actually fix the supply side. If cities cut red tape, streamline permitting, and stop blocking multi-unit housing with outdated zoning laws, weโd have more supply and more competition. We should use tax incentives to reward developers for building affordable housing, not just luxury units. Thatโs literally half of what taxes are for, to guide behavior in the public interest. If people have more housing options, they arenโt forced into overpriced units.
It seems like everyone read ONE article about deregulating housing (from a housing development group) and think that it's showing a proper perspective on rent control. Of course landlords don't want rent control... but that doesn't mean it won't work! It just means they can't fuck over tenants more than they already do.
That is what you said. You know why Trump won this election? It wasnโt because the right got more popular, itโs because nobody on the left went out and voted. So what should they do? Continue to try to push policies that are hated by the half of the population that actually votes in an attempt to get votes from people who refuse to vote for anyone that doesnโt 100% match their own personal beliefs or try to syphon off support from republicans by being slightly less worse than republicans because
Obviously thereโs limited land but thatโs not the issue itโs the zoning laws here and the preservation of certain historical sites that maybe have become obsolete. There is plenty of space to build more housing and as someone who seems quite progressive you should be able to stomach the need to build more housing at the cost of some old city space. And landlords have to lower rent if you generate a greater supply, as I said see Austin Texas where rents dropped after adding supply
Then what are you saying? Because to me it sounds like you want to vote for someone more left than the far right candidate but any time that candidate comes up, you refuse to vote for them because โwell theyโre not perfectโ so why would they try to appeal to you when thereโs no hope that you will ever vote for them
Once again build more supply, which as you fairly stated cannot be luxury, this can be done with tax credits and incentives to developers. With a larger supply of โnormalโ housing rent goes down as demand goes down because more people have a house. If anything renters would rather rent control and ignore zoning so the supply issue is never fixed and then all thatโs left are luxury condos
This is ignoring the problem that we are expanding cities outward when we need to shift to walkable cities. We need more places with taller but fewer buildings, bike paths instead of roads, and public transit if it gets large enough. The amount of space taken by roads and parking decks is about 50% of city space.
And when that supply is built, whoโs going to stop them from raising the rent again? There is 0 incentive to keep rent low. Itโs the same shit as private insurance, why would they keep prices low when they could charge you more and youโre forced to pay what they want because thereโs no other alternative
Unless every single landlord in the city colluded and made the same rent, than yeah theyโd have no reason to. More supply is good and as long as there isnโt a monopoly on landlords they will be forced to at least somewhat lower prices if they are too high compared to the rest of the market
But otherwise high rent often comes from landlords choosing to overprice apartments to squeeze every buck they can. I was recently searching for apartments and some were over 1700/m for less than 400sqft in Boston. And one of them was absolutely terrible. So I don't see why increased supply changes that. There are so many new apartments up there but they just charge more because they are newer. Demand for housing is too high in large cities, and prices are well above the affordable line.
You are mostly correct it marginally decreases housing supply and quality, but I donโt see how you are quickly able to fix this. It would be a huge process taking many years. Id be more focused on trying to renovate outdated office buildings into residential buildings and pulling way back in zoning laws
Whatโs to stop them from colluding? Absolutely nothing. Why would a new apartment come it at the half the rent of the other apartments when they could be the same price as everyone else and get twice as much money? Why do you insist that landlords will be good out of the goodness of their hearts?
I mean, you could have more than 2 at least. That's a start. I'm not saying I want 200 names on the ballot, just more than two. And more than two "parties". Honestly it's more about the connotation of the candidate with their political party. They feel pressured to uphold certain policies and the people feel pressured to like them just because they're on one side or the other
People just take what they can get and a new apartment structure would have to house thousands to be able to fix it. ORRR we need a massive surge of affordable purchasable homes to free up rentable space. That's the other problem: old people downgrading into houses that are more affordable which only leaves expensive properties available. And that is often a problem because our retirement system provides so little for people to live on. We need to bring back pensions.
The more landlords there are the harder this would be to collude. Id say there are plenty in New York. And they wouldnโt be doing this out of the kindness of their hearts Itโs literally the exact opposite they are incentivized to undercut their competitions pricing and attract more renters than their comp
Itโs harder than u think to live comfortably in other places. A 30000 a year McDonaldโs salary puts you easily in the top 1% of global income. Even the worst of the worst us states earn on par if not more than places like Germany, Australia etc. The usd affect is real. Id save while you can it helps more than you think but I wish you luck
Top1% is a massive stretch. Also most countries have substantially lower cost of living then US. So 30,000 in US won't cover food and housing, but it can get you at least somewhere to live and something to eat in Europe. You don't need to earn as much elsewhere, and you will often make similar wages there too. Just not as many positions near 100k and above
Top 1% estimates are about 34,000 which makes sense considering every country. And Iโm not exactly sure why youโre telling me cost of living is lower, obviously this is true and part of the reason usd is more valuable? Itโs more purchasing power than the local currency, in a country with lower cost of living. This helps prove my point that saving usd would be useful so Iโm not sure what exactly youโre getting at.
Youโre correct I saw a figure from 2020. So itโs closer to the top 2.5% the sentiment is the same. Your usd will convert into an amount of euros that would be significantly more valuable to you in Germany or Spain than in the USA, due to the cost of living like you said which is obviously implied for this whole scenario to work. My point is a year or two of trying to save in this country before moving will get you further than just moving out there and saving. Thatโs all I was telling this guy