just a fyi lolita a novel by vladimir nabokov later adapted into a movie, is a disgusting romance justifying pedophilia, the romance is between a 30 year old man and a 12 year old girl and portrays little girls as seductresses this album cover is also very disturbing it’s sad seeing so many women claiming to be modern day feminists but support and reference ts lanel del ray does too sadly (even made a song “lolita”) no hate to anyone who listens to them, just be aware
Just when I thought I was done with this thread I see this pic 😭 DON’T LET THE SABRINA FANS DO THEIR MENTAL GYMNASTICS ON U😭 no you aren’t less of a feminist for calling her out, no u aren’t anti modernist, no u aren’t anti sexual liberation! DONT LET THEM FLIP THE SCRIPT ON U 😬 like I’m this is gonna get disliked into oblivion by the people that have parasocial relationships with Sabrina but idc it had to be saiddd
It’s the same people that like her that are also weird Taylor Swift fans and obsessed with Olivia Rodrigo like please grow up I can’t do this in their personality. Just seems so fake like I don’t know how people are like. I love Sabrina Carpenter like what do you love with her saying fuck
Also lmao at the people in the comments talking about her “over sexualizing” herself. Woman are allowed to be sexually liberated. It’s not the 70s or before anymore - even if her whole brand/music is influenced by that time. Sounds like you’re just mad that she’s hot… idk tho. What happened to women supporting women? Or does that only apply to the ones not getting more attention than you?😂
It’s because historically women have been expected to be subservient and been used like cattle?? And this is perpetuating it?? This is like saying if someone chose to jump off a building it’s their choice and that makes it good. Obvi not, just cause she’s choosing it doesn’t mean it’s not harmful
you are very angry for no reason lmao. sabrina isn't explicitly saying it no, but she is a huge celebrity with a big fan base. while people are responsible for their own decisions her words and actions matter a lot since she's a celebrity so she should be cognizant that she's not reinforcing something that can be potentially harmful to young women. i'm taking a women's and gender studies class on this right now and we learned this is what happens as a result of this, sad but true
No one has the right to censor anything, but at the very least be responsible with your actions when the aftermath can affect a lot of people who are already suffering from prejudice and sexualization — especially young girls, who are more susceptible to that kind of sexualization.
again she isn't responsible for this behavior that you're saying is reciprocal. again, women are not responsible for the actions and responses of men. saying "women shouldn't sexualize themselves like this" sets the precedent that women should be subverted against sexualization, that it is something wrong and that the proper, moral action would be to be more appropriate. but you don't regulate men who act in the same way because again, you're blaming women for the objectification in our culture.
see i don't think its that much of a gray area because ultimately anyone who would fall into the theoretically possible "harm" this would cause would only be to that point by a harmful, sexist society that wouldn't necessarily be worsened by this, and, at the end of the day, Sabrina is not responsible for these people.
the preexisting imbalance does exist tho, acting like it doesn't denies the existence of misogyny. sabrina carpenter choosing to sexualize herself and displaying herself in a sex positive way would not change the hearts of anyone who hasn't already had their hearts changed. i do think people are responsible for their actions, of course, but the only thing that would actually make a real difference towards the destruction of objectification is holding MEN responsible and teaching proper sex ed.
There are many ways to reclaim ‘power’ for women, e.g. in language, in image, through role reversal—but reproducing the same submissive woman trope is not claiming ‘power’ but simply self-justifying act of strengthening preexisting male dominance. Ofc there’s a degree of agency in producing the image itself by women, but that’s a more like coping mechanism
how does trying to regulate how she expresses herself not actually strengthen preexisting male dominance? shame is the driving force that which power is fueled into the patriarchy, men and women alike. continuing that cycle of shame isn't actually promoting sex positivity. there is nothing that separates a dominant woman expressing sexuality and a submissive woman expressing sexuality.
Dude she is literally calling herself a dog. “Man’s best friend” is dogs and the position she is in is for a dog. That is dehumanizing. “Oh but this woman is agreeing to being dehumanized” and that makes it better??? When it gives into super harmful stereotypes and dehumanizes not just her but women in general??? Yeah this is a part of the problem. The men feeding on it is also a problem of course.
Also, the name of the album is Man’s best friend which most people would say is a dog men historically are said to be dogs. They only want sex, so this will be flipping the narrative kinda to herself into the dog, which would be on some level, putting her in the place of a man. It’s saying men aren’t the only ones with sexual desires. But by all means, don’t buy the album if you don’t want to.
okay and? do you think someone could go up to her and do what they want to her and use this as an excuse? "you dehumanized yourself therefore i can treat you as something not human" do you see how ignorant that is? you feasibly cannot dehumanize yourself in an actual moral sense because it would require you to make the choice to dehumanize yourself, which choice and logical conclusions are an inherently human phenomenon.
Kink and sexual expression especially when coping is fine, that’s up to the individual, but her whole image is hypersexualization. It’s lingerie, sex positions on stage, it’s bleach blonde wigs, and sex lyrics. She also isn’t really a girls girl from her own songs. Her expressions of sexuality is the classic male view of women. There are plenty of examples of women’s sexual expression that aren’t hypersexualized and are positive (not harmful or giving into harmful stereotypes).
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, BDSM isn’t something to monetize. It’s something that HAS to exist within a trusting relationship with clear consent and boundaries and when it’s advertised like this (meaning removed from its context of trust and consent) it’s harmful. The studies about demonstrating BDSM outside of their proper relationships and context are constantly showing it increases the abuse of women. Both general violence and sexual.
that's actually not what dehumanization means. Dehumanization is to deprive of POSITIVE human qualities. the positive is incredibly important. if i'm a furry and i dress up as a dog, i'm not dehumanizing myself. but, if someone comes up to me and says, "because you're dressed up as a dog, i get to treat you like you are one by taking away your sense of logic and understanding and consent", that is the point of dehumanization.
So dressing up like a dog for a Halloween costume or the furry community is very very different than comparing yourself to be a dog in a sexual manner. It’s subservient in nature. Literally part of the kink is intentionally dehumanizing. All of pet play in sex is active dehumanization. When it is consensual in a relationship and protected, that’s fine (like the other person said, dehumanization isn’t inherently always bad), BUT when it’s so open ended to the public it has bad repercussions.
yeah but regulating people who aren't actually attributing to the issue in any observable way isn't gonna help. doing this in the name of utilitarianism and harm reduction and then proceeding to set the precedent that we should shame women who act like this, which causes more harm, isn't logically consistent. if you want to actually make a difference, advocate for sex ed and sex positivity.
Most things can have bad repercussions. Most things have positive repercussions too. Things can exist in duality. Because of that album cover more women might feel comfortable expressing that side of themselves at the same time women might want to imitate that and end up doing things they aren’t actually comfortable with.
If you are wearing a collar and chain in public as a woman, go for it. Because if someone crosses the line with you or takes that as an invitation to yank on your chain (literally) you can deck them or kick them. Hence active consequence for the misuse of her sexual expression. The same does not apply online with things like this.
yeah its what #19 said, which is why i make a point against anti modernism, which is where you made a point against mine that was in line with anti modernist sentiments and then you claimed to not be an anti modernist. but if you're gonna make the claim where regulating these modern sentiments around sex positivity is necessary, elaborate on it. prove it.
Your comments don’t load until I reload the page, I wasn’t ignoring your question. When I’m saying “removing context” I’m not saying I believe she isn’t consenting to her photo being taken like this, I’m saying that the context of BDSM that she is expressing always has to have context of proper BDSM education. Monetizing it and using it like this is harmful. She most likely doesn’t know or understand how or why it’s harmful, but that doesn’t change that it is.
Well could I just ask what would make it necessary to begin with? In my mind anything behind closed doors is fair game. MOST things outside of closed doors is fair game. But doing something to “speak for” a demographic and provide potentially harmful rhetoric doesn’t seem “necessary” to an individuals self expression
No it’s just that you aren’t empowered by it. There can be overlap between expressing yourself in a way that specifically caters to the male gaze and expressing yourself the way you want. It’s also not empowering to only live in opposition to it. This photo is not about selling your tits to men, it’s about the position she’s chosen to put herself in.
i don't think you understand what public means. one, it is the parents responsibility to regulate what their kid consumes, not the creators. two, just because its available doesn't mean its public. Anora shows titties and sex scenes, doesn't mean that we should shame the creators for creating it on that premise. we regulate pornographic content, but this isn't pornographic, she isn't even close to naked. fucking Enema of the State is more provocative than this.
you're essentially implying that she has less of a right to self expression because she's famous and influential. it is her prerogative to chose whether or not she wants to express that part of herself publicly, and if you want people to perceive it properly, advocate for better sex ed and sex positivity, because ultimately the precedent that this should be shamed is much more harmful.
This isn’t just art, it’s not just one small thing, it’s much bigger than that. The problem is much bigger than her. It’s like if someone famous makes an album cover of gay person that prays the gay away with songs that could go either way about if they are saying they personally tried and failed or that they actually believe that works. It’s harmful rhetoric that contributes to a bigger picture. If intentions aren’t clear, it’s a negative, doing more harm than good.
Also, sex sells is a separate matter than the male gaze, but they are connected. Sex sells applies to anyone sexually attracted to the content. I know a lot of girls who think Sabrina’s hot and they’re gonna buy her shit because she’s hot. They’re also gonna buy it because she’s talented.
I constantly advocate for better sex Ed and sex positivity in the way that we can discuss it openly where people are free from judgement about who or how they do it, but that doesn’t mean I have to support all kinds of sexual expression when I know they are actively involved in harmful rhetoric.
yeah but you're making a false equivalence. this doesn't impose or degrade any one group directly. anyone who would otherwise harm someone wouldn't be pushed to harm by this album alone. we can't just regulate every single person's expression because it may minorly contribute to someone's wrongful sentiments held around something. if we do, than the low cut blouse the barista wears that might sexually frustrate a person should be discouraged. and that falls into the slippery slope.
Being influential and having that power IS a responsibility. When your whole job is influencing others, you actively have to be more cautious about your actions. You have to know your audience and authority with them. Like you don’t talk to and express yourself the same way to kids that you would an adult, you have to be careful about how to talk around them like not to curse, because influence matters.
Is me talking about it online going to change anything about it? No. The album will be released and no way is she going to change her mind about it. But I also believe it’s important to discuss how women’s submission and sexual expression for men being so normalized and expected actively contributes to why men feel so entitled to your bodies, submission, and sex. These things don’t exist inside a vacuum and so if we want to be sexually expressive (especially submissive) then we have to do it in
I don’t hate her for this or anything, and I don’t support shaming her for being sexually explicit or her looks or anything, but I do feel like addressing the issue with this is still necessary. I mean nothing malicious towards her or any other women who chooses to indulge or express themselves like this, just to bring to attention how it can be harmful or handled better in the future
when you have that many eyes on you, EVERYTHING you do is a MESSAGE to the public. whether she took this seriously or not is irrelevant, she still has a responsibility with the things she produces for the public. she’s smart enough to know that this would be upsetting for many people it was purposeful.
No that’s not how that works. Kink itself doesn’t feed into rape culture. There are lots of misconceptions about how BDSM and kink work due to not being taught any of it, but I would suggest you look into BDSM and dynamics for real research to understand more why it’s actually a very helpful and normal human expression
Unlike most people, I have the time to talk about a lot of things (I’m chronically ill so I’m in bed a lot), so I can put energy into a lot more topics and spend it on more minor things like this. I don’t have a better or more important thing to discuss rn so this is the place I’m at.
Hey, so there is a LOT of psychology that goes into this. Spanking, slapping, whipping, flogging, etc. are all things that are physically stimulating and make your skin much more sensitive to touch. Some people desire intense feelings during sex and that is one way to get them. Pain can also release endorphins and adrenaline which some people find really pleasing.
yknow what i'll actually take the hard road and say within certain perimeters, yes. of course i wouldn't want anyone to have one, but if they do, CNC has been found to be effective at preventing actual harm and coping with trauma. now obviously actually going out there and raping people is wrong, but again, consent is the most important part of this.
Now with sub and dom dynamics, there are many different kinds but they all have their own psychological explanations and are positive experiences when done correctly. Being a Dom is about a feeling of control and honestly (imo) the joy of being trusted by someone and bonding so intensely with them. Also it feels great to be able to make someone feel the most intense pleasure of their life, it’s really gratifying.
so like lets say we're roleplaying and you play the patient and i play the sexy nurse. or we're roleplaying and you play the prisoner and i play the sexy cop. these are sexually exploitative positions without real consent, but in the bedroom, its literally just roleplay. are you against actors displaying abusive roles?
And on the sub end, psychologically it can be really helpful to give up control to someone else and form that kind of trust. A lot of it follows the same psychology as trust falls and those crazy dance & yoga poses where you have to entirely trust another person with your safety.
So with CNC (consensual non consensual) the typical reason for the kink to develop is commonly sexual abuse. Now there are many levels of it like “I just want you to come up to me and have sex with me without asking” to actually roleplaying a violent assault. But there are lots of studies on this and why people like it and if it’s harmful and the conclusion is: when done correctly it’s a positive thing.
Reasons why it’s positive: • it gives victims a chance to “redo” their trauma in a safe environment where they ultimately hold the control (subs opinions are the end all be all in BDSM) and helps prevent them from doing self destructive things to cope. Many abuse victims will think they could have handled it differently or done something else to change the outcome and roleplay like this can actually be helpful.
• some people with low self esteem have a really hard time believing their partner is attracted to them or cares about them so they need aggressive actions to actually feel reassured, like someone screaming at them that they love them type thing, but instead it’s “I’m SO attracted to you that I can’t even control myself and HAVE to have sex with you right now!” Even though that’s not how it works in real life, it’s how some people roleplay!
i think you should understand that this isn't true. a lot of people point towards the romans but actually they had very open minds about certain progressive issues during the height of their power and were the most restrictive and oppressive post-Contsantine. There are societies with liberalistic values that collapsed, yes, but there are hundreds of more movements that have only elevated societies rather than bringing about the "end of society" as people claim.
• some people like feeling helpless to pleasure. Like it feels so good that even though you “don’t want it” (bc obviously this is roleplay and you do want it) that you just have to give in. • similar to pain play, the chemicals released in such a high intensity roleplay some people like. It’s another type of adrenaline junky (if you’ve ever heard that term before).
There are many more reasons why people participate and like CNC and the psychology behind why some people find it enjoyable. There are many toxic people who try to use BDSM as an excuse or cover up for abuse but that is not welcome in the actual community and is called out immediately in those circles. There are rules about how to properly handle these things so that everyone is safe and happy.
that’s actually quite informative. interesting psychology as well. i dont think people who are participating are inherently bad or anything, but i definitely think it represents something problematic and is a result of cycles of abuse. but this has helped me to understand it better so thank you!
Emphasis on personal pleasure and gratification shifts focus away from structure, stability and social cohesion. Pointing out that the height of such behavior in the Roman Empire can be observed in their golden era (especially late golden era) only contributes to my point. Later emperors were varied in their policies but more restrictive policies were largely ignored by the populace. A more recent example is Weimar.
Exactly but I’m so sick and tired of performative feminists attacking other women for disagreeing with what celebrities such as Sabrina and Sydney Sweeny do sometimes. They say it’s us “hating women” “being jealous” and “not feminists”. Like is it wrong to have different opinions 😭 I respect urs and can u please respect mine 😭
Also, I would say that there are healthy ways to express oneself, and unhealthy ways to express oneself. I would say this is unhealthy. She’s allowed to do what she wants, but it doesn’t make it right. On top of that, being a public figure gives her the responsibility to be conscious of how she expresses herself publicly
Agreed. Men create and sustain the male gaze. it’s built around their standards, desires, and expectations. And yet somehow, women are the ones constantly told to navigate it, fix it, or justify how we respond to it. That’s the problem. Men shape the male gaze, but women are the ones held accountable for how we exist under it. Why is that our burden to carry?
As a girl I just can’t get behind her. It’s one thing for any random woman to dress sexy, be submissive or have sex freely, embrace that she’s hot— all the power to her. But for a woman with a HUGE platform to compare herself to a sexual object, a DOG in this case, just feels like yet another instance of female popstars being objectified/oversexualized in order to sell music. None of this feels like a good use of self expression to me
It is disturbing and objectifying. I have zero problem with kink, and regular women being openly sexual, but Sabrina making her entire branding about being a sex object (a DOG in this case) when she has an audience of millions is just giving ‘female popstar being sexualized yet again by the industry to sell records’ and is so creepily male gaze.
Madonna absolutely was. She was openly sexual in a way that said “fuck you to the men and conservatives that call me a slut for being in charge of my body”. Instead, Sabrina is literally calling herself a DOG, on her knees, and all her songs are about how bad she needs a man to bang and how sad she is if he leaves her. Massive difference. She’s so not a girls girl.
Explain how this is empowering. She’s not sexualizing herself in a way that says “fuck you to those who call me a slut for being in control of my body”. She’s quite literally calling herself a DOG, getting on her knees, and all her songs are about how badly she needs a man and how sad she is when he leaves her. This is so male gaze it’s embarrassing.
Sex is just sex. The only way sex IS NOT empowering is if it’s NOT consensual… Of course people are free to judge. But we should be honest about why and how we judge. If a woman posts a submissive or sexual photo, and your first reaction is to question her worth, intelligence, or empowerment… that says more about your conditioning than it does about her. She doesn’t need your approval. But you might want to re-evaluate why her expression bothers you so much.
bitchhhh satire is “Im holding a mirror up to society” moment. This is one of those moments. The women are calling her a slut because she’s catering to the men. The men are calling her a slut cause she’s sexually depraved. So which is it? is she the icon of the male gaze or the president of slut nation? This is satire.
93 deleted. “all this mental gymnastics… will we be seeing you in the summer olympics?” I was gagged a little cause I haven’t heard that one before. I wanted to see where’d they go with it but they just kept repeating “you dont know satire” You’re right in there’s no point other than having my shit together, thoughts sorted out, for when ppl IRL start the “why do women feel the need to express being sexual?” discourse
Either deleted or blocked. Either way, it was child’s play. It’s all just a dumb argument, I don’t know why they’re so hell bent over an album cover when she was doing multiple positions during Juno last year 😭 it’s a lack of media literacy because this cover is black and white satire, there’s no other way to view it lol
As a grad student, we use this app a lot especially since YY upgraded to having a school only community rather than it being divided by distance. Yes the app was started by college students, but it’s no longer for that range. You have many minors on “Sidechat” as well. So the 18-22 role, never fully applied nor does it any longer.
What’s not progressive about women expressing their sexuality? I really want you to break down what is the “progressive” alternative. Covering up? Not ever presenting yourself in a sexual manner? Never expressing your sexuality desires through your art? Because that sounds like traditionalism and conservatism.
No it’s actually not. Did you read what I said in my previous comment? It was made by college students but that was over a decade ago. This app has progressed more in the past 3 years by a long shot. Hence why I said there are minors on it now with all the different communities that are not only college students. Same with pop base. Anyone can see pop base and comment on it.
go look at the app store and come back when you find a mention of “18-22” or “college students.” it only mentions “connecting with community.” Oh also, this app is from 2013, since you’re so adamant, I’ll check in to make sure you deleted it as soon as you graduate (if you manage to do that). Lastly, the app says 17+ on the app store. does it say 22-? no. does it mention an age cap? no. minors aren’t allowed to be on here so idk wtf ur on about. jesus christ act ur grown age
Also were at a time where right wing content, red pill content, and incel culture and trad wife culture are becoming prevalent. If we see Sabrina, just doing this, they’ll use this against the mainstream and good ethical values and standards past generations have spent their lives tryna instill. It doesn’t just matter what her message is, it also matters how they’ll take her message and use it against her and the women out there.
“this cope” its the fucking app you’re using dawg 😭 so “everything says its for college kids” except the app itself? and im 19 fyi, not sure why you’re so ready to call people pedophiles when you have 0 information about them. looking up yikyak says it was “initially gained popularity on college campuses” could you provide a source where it says its exclusively for college students?
now lets see if i get a response other than, “omg you like old ppl talking to little girls” cuz nobody is saying that. but id love to hear an argument or any logical reason you are hostile to people who are over 22 on an app that has NEVER been exclusive to undergrad students specifically 18-22 years old.
as many people have pointed out, there are plenty of reasons even undergrad students are over that age. vets would be 22-26, do they not deserve community and connection? older people who go back to school are not allowed because #15 determined so in a popbase comment section? PLEASE provide any logic as to why this is, or as i said before, you’re just ragebaiting.
however you are right, id lose less braincells arguing with those MAGA computer bots on threads and twitter. its evident you just say shit based on how you feel and you dont critically think abt it. i guess you win, you’re totally right its time for me to go groom some little kids anonymously ‼️🥰
its not a straw man argument when the entire argument is that this app is for college kids ages 18-22 and there are a bunch of people older than that on here trying to talk to barely legal teenagers. the fact that you are now trying to pivot makes it seem like you are one of those people
you are the weirdo who thinks that there cannot be any dialogue between older people and younger people whatsoever. i don’t know if you’re actually this stupid or intentionally being obstinate, but this idea you have that any interaction between 22+ and 18 year olds is inherently sexually and predatory is delusional. THATS the argument. talk to somebody, but god forbid not a therapist!! theyre too old!
there is nothing wrong with teenagers and adults conversing in a healthy way. You were trying to use the argument that talking to teenagers makes you a pedophile when I am an individual who has worked with children for many years with Babysitting and have had a healthy relationship with all of them and their parents. Don’t you think that if I was a pedophile that I would’ve been accused of by those children that I worked with?
this app has multiple communities themed around college students posting nude photos of themselves, dating, and there is a dm function which i have been sent messages through multiple times through this page alone in an attempt to groom me. adults should not be on this app and you need to get off it if you think otherwise since you are clearly one of those people then
I am doing school specifically to work with neurodivergent children so you may as well try to get laws passed that anyone above the age of 22 can’t be in college and can’t learn because I am going to work with them and I am going to help them learn how to live in this fucked up world
unfortunately babes, you are about emotionally charged tirades, not logically defensible positions. im not about to search through your nonsensical diatribe just to find you dont even know what you’re arguing, you’re just a stupid, angry fuck. anyways. nobody agrees w u, and they ^ coherently laid out the points. i wont do your hw for u, if you’re unconvinced, good lord, life is gonna be hard for u.
how am i supposed to provide screenshots of something they changed? when i downloaded this app they literally said it was for college students and the main way people find out about this app is from other college students during their freshman year. you can cope all you want but the majority of people on this app are teenagers and nothing you say can change that
I guess I am in the summer olympics cause chappell roan, and sabrina do have a say. It’s her voice, her choices, her interviews, she’s open about her sexual expression. Objectification IS rooted in patriarchy, but you want to say blame the women feeding into it? Or the men assuming access to women’s bodies? You can pick both if you’d like it’s just… sabrina does seem to be the easier target
HOWEVER I can agree w/ you cause sabrina IS an ex-disney star and a lot of parents might get confused about their kids listening to her music from growing up watching her on television. but still, Sabrina is allowed to have her voice. no other options teenage girls can look up to if not Sabrina? Who would you prefer? Good this controversy is happening cause now more awareness so parents can protect their kids.
I agree with #99. you guys conflate sex w/ power & control so often. that’s the patriarchal belief. gay tops/bottoms DO have this expectation put on them that “the top is empowering. being a bottom is demeaning.” “oh no! bottom allegations” gays say that cause of patriarchy. the real truth is 2 people agreed to do something together and now one person gets the “power” credit? Cause patriarchy NEVER validates the agency it takes to be vulnerable for someone else. just bottom shaming 24/7
Hey boss. Just have to chime in because I’m honestly offended at how fucking stupid you are and your need to shit on people just chilling. So yeah, this is is definitely geared towards college kids. But what happens when that college kid is 23? Is be no longer a college ? The standard demographic is 18-22 sure but there are many exceptions to that norm bro. You look like a fucking idiot arguing that just because dude is 23 he can’t use this app anymore. It is a mind-numbingly poor argument.
You are again missing the point on multiple levels. Also this isn’t “women using the male gaze to manipulate them”. This is SABRINA. Not all women consented to this. Believe it or not it’s okay for women to feel uncomfortable with other women exploiting female bodies. U think the objectification is only gonna apply to Sabrina? All women are gonna be victim to this whether they want to or not. Both males and women like Sabrina are at fault for this
Things #15 has expressed: You are a groomer. Im a grape minimizer. And that they themselves, #15, is obviously ran-through 🚂 You’d expect bait would at least be more subtle… The real reason men give it up so easy for Sabrina Carpenter is because all men cannot resist Alfred from the MAD show on cartoon network. Every-time they see it, it is so overwhelmingly hot they simply cannot control themselves
image from #15 where the shut down on blucandi was intense. there’s another comment from #15 where they were like “let me guess, you are a trumpie?” as if that’s the relevant thing in the image. like there’s clearly some creative deflecting going on, #15 is becoming a true case study
feminism is letting women do things like this if it is their choice to do so. i get where you're coming from but a different example (not to this extent) is telling women who are stay at home moms by choice that they are causing society to regress or some shit. i've seen worse album covers lmao
The difference between this picture from the literal 1950s and Sabrina’s is that she chose to take this picture and literally paid a man to stand and have a handful of her hair. Her whole brand is female empowerment so obviously she’s referring to her new songs about feeling like a dog in her past relationships 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
This passage is already sharp, but here’s something to make it sharper: nah Im relentlessly defending her ASS 👏 here is a gif so you can kiss it, you be like 🥵 so overwhelmingly hot, you simply cannot control yourself. “setting women back” how bout women arent a monolith, b-b-bleach blonde bad built butch body, use my double Ds & a b-b-bubble butt to tell you what tf is up comin out hard like 88, make a bitch levitate. babyface savage bitch I don't play patty cake
“All woman are going to be victim to this” …Is there anyone on earth who is like“I got objectified cause of Sabrina Carpenter” Did Sabrina Carpenter objectify you as a woman? Did she worsen the male gaze on your behalf? no. It will never be your fault you got un-consensually objectified even if you were a walking sex doll or just showed your ankles. It will always be the objectifier’s fault. You’re allowed to judge & feel uncomfortable. Your judgement does not make Sabrina wrong.