Do I utterly despise this man? Yes. Do I think his rhetoric is harmful to impressionable minds? Yes. Do I think the irony of how he died is worth noting? Yes. Will I mourn his death? No. Will I celebrate his death? No. Shit is gonna get worse long before it gets better. Make good choices out there, peeps
Kirk was supporting and advocating for so many bullshit that many children and mothers died from, it wasn’t just talking opinions How many more mothers have to die from abortion or how many more school shootings does it take for eveything to stop… NEVER WILL IT TAKES A POLITICIAN THESE CLOWNS WORSHIP It’s either politicians who go or more innocent ppl I don’t give a flying fuck if he’s dead, I hope he rots in hell
Yes, I understand he was controversial and I definitely didn’t agree with him but I hope we can all agree that any violence, especially political violence is not ok and further divides us as a country. To the people cheering about his death let’s keep in mind he was a human and had a wife and kids.
no sympathy for this man. i feel sympathy for his kids and wife and the ppl at the event that are traumatized from having to witness that. i especially feel sympathy for all the kids that died the exact same way because of people like charlie kirk that advocate for these rifles to be legal. i feel sympathy for all the murdered children that aren’t even old enough to have hate in their hearts that are dead because of ppl like charlie. in the words of republicans, thoughts and prayers
To those of you finding this to be funny, you are actually just insane. How could you possibly find it okay to wish death on a person and then run their name to the ground once you find out they died? You do all understand and realize that he was more than just someone who advocated for politics, right? He was a father, a husband, and a son. Nobody deserves to die, regardless of their political stance. Today’s world view is so distorted.
the people who celebrated this post need to seek help immediately. yall r sick individuals and are celebrating someone life. he was a husband and a father and his kids now need to grow up without there father, and his wife a single mother. you should be ashamed of yourself if you are in anyway happy or celebrating this
Let’s all not forget that he voluntarily stated he’d make his UNDERAGE daughter carry a rape baby to term even if it traumatized her, called for violence against trans peoples, thought the civil rights act was a ‘huge mistake’, also that executions should be televised for kids to see saying “it’s an initiation”, And finally to top it off stated That “gun deaths are ‘unfortunate’ but completely worth it to keep the 2nd amendment.” Aka bad person got what was coming for him, Pure karma.
Comparing him to hitler is crazy. Now I don’t agree with all the things he said, but to stoop that low and compare him to someone that committed, genocide, mass deaths, and heinous war crimes is deplorable. Yall really don’t know how to let ppl have their opinions and move on with your day. I get being passionate about something but that’s what makes opinions, opinions. It’s honestly detestable the lack of humanity y’all are showing. A life is a life. Whether you like him or not.
I don’t know, man. I’ve seen many condemning this assassination from both sides. A ton actually, who expressed how harmful his views were to people, are horrified at this loss of life. It’s an absolute tragedy what’s happened. I’ve sadly seen conservatives disrespecting his death as well, as unexpected as that might sound. I’m praying for him and his family. We need some humanity.
Who laughed? Who? Basement trolls on some twisted corner of social media? This is the problem. This eye for an eye mentality the belief that because someone else goes low you have to go lower. When did we lose the ability as a society to acknowledge and speak out against evil when you see it?
I feel bad for his children and his wife. I feel worse for the children across the country who have bought into his bullshit. The irony of him dying while trying to downplay the impact of us being at 309 mass shootings in 253 days should not be ignored. He spent his life lobbying on the federal level for abhorrent viewpoints and this is what happens when you build your career on hate.
He's a white supremacist....He doesn't care about children dying in school shootings. Nor does he care about Palestinians being slaughtered. Lemme say that man didn't keep SHIT to himself when those people were dying. Actually he deemed it NECESSARY... so people who don't value human lives won't get value and sympathy from me
Not as evil as the fucking person who killed him. He wasn’t evil he died for absolutely no reason at all. He was a man with a wife and a family. A man with a voice trying to make a difference. And because of the evil people in our world he died for it. So let’s reflect on who the evil people are you heartless person.
if you believe that politics is just opinions then it is great for you that you’ve never had to deal with politicians restricting your freedoms and damaging your life. that is not the case for most Americans. Politics is not just “opinions.” Consider the fact that there was a school shooting today in Colorado and we’re all talking about Charlie Kirk. We don’t put our flags at half mast for dead children.
the problem with politics is that neither side is in the right, and people have totally lost the ability to come to their own conclusions and think for themselves. both sides hear a twisted version of the story and run with it, and I am sick of it. most people in this country are moderate, but as soon as someone hears they agree with something on the other side it turns into a fight, it’s fucking nuts
again, until it happens to u, u will never truly understand the feeling. one day you will see and u will regret what u say. i know u and ur family have argued before, and u disagreed. does this make them nazis for having different opinions?? some people just can’t be helped and it’s clear u are one of them.
I’m just as bad as he is? You wanna run me by that one more fucking time? He thinks minorities don’t deserve human rights, I do. He supports genocide, I condemn it. He supports rapists and pedophiles, I don’t. He’s okay with mass shootings as long as he gets his toys, I’m willing to relinquish my second amendment rights if it means school shootings end. Who’s the worse person here?
Also who tf is us? I never even mentioned politics in my comment. I was just happy that a horrible person has left this earth. But I think it speaks volumes that you saw a comment praising the death of a white supremacist who supports rapists and pedos. And you immediately assumed that commenter was left leaning. Everyone should be happy about this scumbag’s death. But you assumed I was left-leaning why? Because I hate Nazis? Interesting self-own.
This is disgusting, truly. Regardless of whether you agree with everything he says or not (the point you are bringing up, I agree is very wrong) he was still a person taken from this earth too soon. Everyone really needs to take a step back and understand that in no way, shape or form is murder okay.
I never said he did nothing wrong. All I said was people are celebrating the death of an individual based on his political views and it’s wrong. You don’t have to agree with every single thing a person says to have a little empathy for them. The poor man was shot in front of his wife and children and bled to death. It’s traumatic for everyone and something nobody should ever have to see or encounter.
Would you be able to “move on” so easily if your mother or father was murdered in front of you and you watched it? Would you be able to “move on” so easily if you just watched your significant other bleed out on a podium? I don’t think his wife needs a new significant other in her life at this moment nor do his children need a new father figure at this moment. What they need is to be allowed the same grieving process everyone else is allowed to have without people making fun of their deceased
See, now this is where we are having some miscommunication. Never in my post did I say that people who don’t like him are the same as those who are celebrating his death. You can disagree with him all you want, there were definitely times where he said things that I disagreed with. However, there is a difference between saying you don’t like a person and saying “I love seeing such heartwarming media stories like this 💕” which is a direct comment someone made under this general post.
u have no backing to ur claim he’s a white supremacist who supports rapists and pedos and more than that you know it’s not true. you say it to try n aggravate ppl. and by doing this u further the problem of sensationalism and widen the ideological divide in this country that causes deaths of innocents over simple politics. YOU are part of the problem and YOU are directly responsible for political violence-related deaths.
having an opinion and expressing it is different than lying about things and exaggerating the other sides point to try and get ur point across. that was actually one of the things he did best, and while i dont agree with a good amount of what he said, i understand that he is simply debating and representing a view point and not ATTACKING the other side but trying to win them over. you have better thinking skills than that now, come on.
Dude. He was openly associating with white supremacists for years, he has professionally worked to advance political causes championed by white supremacists (his work with TPU and other political orgs), and more than that ALL OF THIS IS EASILY FOUND KNOWLEDGE. You’re arguing like you have some sort of moral high ground that just does not exist. He openly supported at least one KNOWN rapist/pedo. Again, this is easily found knowledge and supported by court cases that have beaten multiple appeals.
In that scenario the other interviewer specified that his daughter would be ok after the birth in the scenario. He supported that the baby is a human life and it isn’t their fault that they were created by a crime. A fetus is a human being, if it weren’t why would murder of a pregnant woman be considered a double homicide?
Consider: the side of the aisle that seems intent on forcing women to bear the children of their abusers and rapists is the same side of the aisle that rages against movements working to solve the problem of rape in our society. #MeToo wasn’t getting flak from people who support victims making that choice, is all I’ll say. No child should have to give birth to another child.
I have done research, and it doesn’t matter. A man is dead and what had that done for any side? We can be as divided as we want, but that doesn’t mean death is ok. Charlie Kirk is dead and as are thousands of others who died at the hands of violence. People are still dead and that is simply not ok. I don’t give a fuck what your views are but I have mentally thrown out your opinion because I will not listen to the words of someone who celebrates death.
You are a pathetic excuse for a person. No one deserves to die that way when they are simply voicing their first amendment right as you are right now. With your logic, someone from the right can take you out because you’re saying things they don’t agree with. It goes both ways Olivia. Don’t have children, they’ll be better off.
you didn’t answer my question tho. how is saying he’d FORCE his child to give birth even if she was raped, loving? sorry but i don’t consider that loving. i’m not celebrating his death and i agree all life is precious but why are so many people defending him? he wasn’t an innocent person.
i’m nowhere near as bad as him. you don’t see me going to college campuses and starting unnecessary problems do you? he didn’t deserve to die but i don’t see how this is a loss for america. his family yes, but he contributed nothing but hate to the world. why are we defending him?
msnbc said the shooting may have been an “accidental firing” btw. this is the same type of news channel you and many others like you get ur information from, so it’s no surprise you think he was such a “hateful man” when all u see is active lies and sensationalist propaganda about proponents of opposing agendas
Honestly they’re better off without him, he literally agreed that his daughter should give birth even if she was raped and imagine if he was still alive, he would push all his stupid beliefs on his kids, they might possibly take it after their dad and advocate with him, they would receive so much hate from the world
Scenario was if the 10 year old girl was graped and she would live during the birth would he be ok with going thru that, he said yes. I agree. As a Christian yes I agree. Labor is bad but it’s not the end of the world. The baby would have a support system. And WHO TF ARE WE to end that babies life? To put judgement on that babies life? I’m pro life if u can’t tell. My mom had my sister at 15. That’s not 10 but still a child! My mom doesn’t regret having her. My mom loves her.
but i’m a piece of shit for not agreeing w you? i couldn’t imagine forcing my own child to give birth to her rapists baby. and if you do, you’re the problem. he’s not a good person, he didn’t deserve to die but that’s what happens when all you do is spread hate in today’s america. he said it’s worth it to have gun deaths so we can keep our second amendment rights, he died on what he preached.
yeah cus yall know u aren’t. 😭 yall r willing to accept mental illness as normal but as soon as someone uses their freedom of speech to disagree with u, they’re shot. im sure at some point you guys were a respectable party that didn’t have to pander for votes by controlling media tho
Completely agree. We should be addressing the problem of rape. Not the resorting to murder as the only solution. Rape is not addressed as it should be. Instead of placing the burden on the mother to decide, we should be preventing rape in the first place. Medical castration if convicted rapists sounds like a great start to me
It shouldn’t be happening in the first place!! These are atrocities we shouldn’t even be debating! Rape is the worst possible crime that can be committed as it has no cause other than rabid thirst for sex. Why are we not giving this much attention to serving justice for the crime? Justice is not allowing the murder of an innocent, it’s intervening before a crime can be committed. The unborn child is an innocent and should not have to be undergo MURDER because if the actions of a horrid man
He did a whole interview with a black woman voicing how her child was a blessing from God and how it is unjust how black households are significantly more likely to be fatherless and social assistance programs are not targeting and supporting the family unit in an equitable way for the black community. But yea totally a white supremacist.
Necessary evil is not what he said. What he said was no matter what we do with guns there will still be gun deaths. If it’s not guns it’ll be a different weapon. Look at the UK they have an unprecedented amount of knife deaths. I don’t disagree that there needs to be some regulations, but even if we do that there will still be illegal gun ownership which is more difficult to trace than legal ownership. It’s a slippery slope for sure
And America lost another Nazi, good things in the world will always be in danger as long as people like him are around. As a minority who has had to live with people like him and have had my life threatened, there’s one less person in the world who is threat to my rights and existence.
But you can because of the first amendment right. Who are you to deem someone’s opinion hateful? I believe yours is hateful and I’m not getting ready to cause bodily harm. When you start taking away the right to an opinion you end of with Nazi Germany and Communist Russia. If you like the idea of being killed for your opinion go to Russia. Leave this country and go there if you hate it so much and love censorship and the silencing of citizens.
One her choice but I wouldn’t advise her to kill it and fuck around in the process and kill herself once again it’s dangerous and I’m not no advocate for killing a innocent child period would I hate my sister or treat her differently nope but if she asked me I’d tell her children are indeed blessing and I just don’t side with killing it
Just stfu omg you need to be pulled back into the reality snowflake, we’re not living in a wonderful la la land okay, stop acting like you’re such a good person, people, animals, babies… someone dies at least every fucking week ok, babies in Gaza went through way more gruesome deaths than Kirk but no one cares cuz they’re not famous yall act like angels when it comes to famous politicians Charlie is just another walking flesh and bones that died it’s not that deep it’s life ok suck it up
who said we didn’t care? Charlie stated NO baby deserves to die when asked about this war. Also we do care whether or not he said it. Also don’t insult us by using “snowflake” these are mature conversations and last time i checked name calling was something we left in middle school.
The way he preached made it seem that he would do the same on the graves on children who died because of his thoughts on guns…so while I may not agree that you can shoot people you disagree with I’ll never mourn him. I’ll never say woohoo that he died tho. And I’m not gonna say he deserved it even tho I’d say irony is a bitch and karma came around.
hi there is no argument he was doing what Jesus sent him to do living in truth rather than a mixed up agenda liberals have created for the world and he died doing so and that proved his ideology you’re mindless if you think it was deserved and you’re ignorant if you go on to say the things he said were incorrect get off the internet and look at the real world. God bless you, he died doing service to His Kingdom!
I’m an actually a scientist so yes I have. As early as 3-8 weeks of fetal development the spinal cord and brain are developed enough to have reflexes and coordination. So no it is not a clump of cells except for the first two weeks. Two weeks in which it is usually unclear that a pregnancy has begun.
“all forms of life” but you’re not including the actual women GIVING birth. if you care about all forms of life you would want women to have the choice. because believe it or not, abortions SAVE LIVES. plenty of women have to terminate their pregnancy because THEIR life becomes at risk. so tell me again how you care about all forms of life?
i am pro choice and i agree with this. i think everyone has the right to choose, but i also believe people are entitled to their opinions. people believe abortion is a morality issue, and to some degree it is, especially now when the rhetoric is that abortion is contraception (which it is absolutely not)… people are allowed to discuss why they believe abortion is wrong
I believe in choice when it comes down to fetuses that are not viable, who’s birth would harm the mother to an abnormal and dangerous degree, or would be born with severe birth defects that impair quality of life. And only 1% of those who turn to abortion are rape victims, 13-18% are those in which there is a severe medical risk to the mother or fetus. That remaining percent, are those who do it simply because they are using it like birth control. That’s what I have a problem with.
That’s again not the point. You’re the snowflake here that you’re yelling over message and being intolerant of other people’s opinions. I’m not talking about Gaza victims. That is also a horrible situation, what I’m talking about is how this particular instance sheds light on how gun violence does not discriminate and that if someone is shot because they voiced their opinion we have a huge problem
Bitch if your dumbass read the post you’d know that had nothing to do with it. You and your white skinheads don’t care abt death when it comes to throwing immigrants into alligator Alcatraz but all of a sudden have empathy for a fucking nazi. If you’d get trumps dick out your ass you’d know what the fuck was actually going on.
I don’t know, man. I’ve seen many condemning this assassination from both sides. A ton actually, who expressed how harmful his views were to people, are horrified at this loss of life. It’s an absolute tragedy what’s happened. I’ve sadly seen conservatives disrespecting his death as well, as unexpected as that might sound. I’m praying for him and his family. We need some humanity.
Also - I do think we probably should be cautious about assuming the shooter was left-leaning or liberal. One of the men who attempted to assassinate Donald Trump - Thomas Matthew Crooks - was a confirmed registered Republican. And the man responsible for the Minnesota legislator killings (murder of Democratic State Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband) was described by friends and family as having attended multiple Trump rallies, holding strong conservative and anti-abortion views.
I’ve seen many folks mock Mr. Biden’s passing, sadly. Heck, we’ve seen full on assassination attempts via conservatives. I’ve also seen many heartfelt condemnations from left leaning folks that didn’t start like that. Heck, I cried upon hearing what happened. Also, did you mean to send that message to me? I’m a bit confused - I didn’t say anything of the sort. But regardless, I send you my best wishes.
No, it was not to the extent that it is with Charlie Kirk as it was with Joe Biden… not at all. I only saw a few people online doing that but now I’m seeing people I personally know do it. I see this on my school yikyak I see this on my Instagram and my Snapchat and my Facebook…. It’s a testament to the rotting culture. It is so bad that if I say anythin on my Reddit or my Yik Yak, I get instantly downvoted but if I praise it, then I get upvotes…
Guns aren’t the problem, guns were made to harm and prevent harm. The end of the day someone has to pull the trigger for a gun to fire, guns aren’t the problem, people are. And people who disagree with someone’s view points and decided to shoot him are the same types of people who shoot schools up and hit their wives and children. We need gun prevention and protection, ways to regulate it which is what he meant
Damn that’s crazy. I kind of don’t give a fuck. Because the reason someone chooses to get an abortion is none of my fucking business. And the fact that people have actually died in this country because doctors were scared they would be charged with murder for giving lifesaving medical care is fucking dystopian. Also, we can all bend statistics. 1 in 20 women (5%) in the US have become pregnant due to rape.
He was a man of God. He fought for what he believed in. He fought for your rights. Freedom of Speech, which allows you to call a man a “Nazi” bc of what he believes in just because it was different from what you do. Pushing you’re beliefs on “peace and love” is hypocritical at this point. Nobody on the right wants people to die. That’s the difference. A father, a husband, and a son, who was innocent, lost his life and you people are celebrating it. Charlie is in Heaven. I’ll pray for you.
He promoted the Great Replacement Theory, a Nazi conspiracy theory. He said that the Jews control everything and made multiple other antisemitic statements. He said that Palestine doesn’t exist and fully supported Israel in its genocide of Palestinians. He said the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a mistake and MLK Jr was an awful person. He said that gay people should be stoned to death. He said that we should ‘take care of’ trans people like we used to back in the day. I don’t know. You tell me.
I am very sorry to hear that folks around you that have been being terrible. Truly. I would like to ask, is there a reason you directed your comment about ‘liberals making backhanded condolences’ specifically at me? I was so confused. I’ve sadly seen conservatives call for violence against leftist/liberal folks in the past few days. It’s scary stuff. Most on based on the assumption that the shooter was liberal, despite one of Mr. Trump’s shooter being a registered republican.
He was an evil person because he advocated for violence against people. He encouraged it, and celebrated people who went through with it against opposing political leaders, minorities, and women. He was not a good person and I’m tired of people retconning his history. He spent a good portion of his life defending and celebrating hateful and violent people, and I don’t think he deserves sympathy
You’re right, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and no one deserves to die because of it. However, when someone makes a career out of spreading hate and misinformation, and encouraging violence I don’t believe that we can pretend that they were just “having an opinion.” It’s dangerous to tolerate intolerance and I’m tired of pretending otherwise. I’m not saying that anyone who disagrees with me should be shot, don’t misunderstand me. But let’s not sit here and say he was a good person
He was a great person. He did not spread misinformation and he spread HIS opinion. This man changed so many young teenagers life. Spread the word of God and was a loving husband and father💔 but yet his opinion outside of all that and his dream makes him evil???? I disagree with Harry Sissons, I do not think he’s a bad person at all I have a lot of respect for him. That’s the difference between us. I hope Jesus has mercy on your soul✝️
He was NOT a good person. He DID spread misinformation, and anyone who pretends otherwise is delusional. He lied to his fanbase, and he did not care about his family. He said loudly and proudly that he would make his 10 year old daughter carry a rapists baby, does that sound like a loving father? People can have disagreements, but Kirk was a hateful and intolerant person
Not really tbh, the person they were responding to said that everyone is entitled to their opinion. While Kirk never did anything and reprehensible as being responsible for 9/11, he was still responsible for encouraging and celebrating violence. It’s not the best comparison, but it gets their point across