Anonymous #5 16w

I mean she still released new songs on her tv that she wasn’t allowed to produce, and kept her stylistic choices that were removed

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Anonymous #5 16w

The fans are gonna hate me for this, but yeah. It was likely a cash grab while she negotiated the deal.

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Anonymous #10 16w

How could anyone downvote this comment this is one of the funniest things I’ve read on here

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Anonymous #11 16w

Free will

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Anonymous #3 16w

You have the free will to not follow the herd when somebody leaves a hilarious comment

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Anonymous #9 16w

def a cash grab

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Anonymous #9 16w

Oh that too 100% she used the money to buy the rights back. Smart move

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Anonymous #11 16w

You need to go out more if that was hilarious to you

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Anonymous #16 16w

Lol surpriseee. She’s been the symbol of the industry for over a decade, her fans make me laugh tbh. Could not be more obvious

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Anonymous #12 16w

Did u miss the 360 mil?

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Anonymous #16 16w

she’s the industry now that she has control, they weren’t offering any deal where she got 100% control over her own music and work, including music vids and concert movies, until it didn’t mean anything to them because the taylor’s versions were worth more. NOW they sold it to her in a deal where she has full control over everything she’s made. they wanted to control her and she made her own versions till they got popular enough to where they no longer could control her or wanted to.

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Anonymous #20 16w

she could always afford it but they were never JUST giving her the music, it always came with stipulations

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Anonymous #5 16w

they weren't offering any deal where she got 100% control over her own music and work, including music vids and concert movies, until it didn't mean anything to them because the taylor's versions were worth more. NOW they sold it to her in a deal where she has full control over everything she's made. they wanted to control her and she made her own versions till they got popular enough to where they no longer could control her or wanted to.

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yeah that’s fine

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yes and the OG company were abusive and scammers trying to own her and control her

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Anonymous #15 16w

Wasn’t a cash grab. She finally had the opportunity to buy all her old work without any type of stipulations involved.

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Anonymous #12 16w

So they were offered back to her to buy because nobody was listening to them since she released Taylor’s Version. So they weren’t making money on them. Now that Taylor has them again, fans will start listening to them and they’ll be worth more. There’s talk of combining the TVs and OGs on streaming but it’s in the works.

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Anonymous #23 16w

Yeah they got to profit off of it for a while then more recently decided to sell it back to her for even more then they paid for it in the first place so they both got what they wanted

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Anonymous #5 16w

tbf they weren’t giving up the masters without TV. the rerecordings essentially made the originals worthless

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Anonymous #22 16w

Pretty much!

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Anonymous #24 16w

EXACTLY

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Anonymous #19 16w

She is the only person on the planet who would pay that for them with the newer versions out. That’s not a sign of worth. That’s just a purchase.

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Anonymous #27 16w

it’s crazy bc that’s probably the cheapest she has been offered over the years and without any stipulations controlling her

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Anonymous #27 16w

Ownership is big in the music industry though so I get it. The money will come back. Not like she doesn’t have millions laying around anyway

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Anonymous #20 16w

True

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Anonymous #20 16w

Ok? That’s how the industry works. Just cus it’s her name doesn’t mean she owns all the music. Countless producers and writers are used. Also countless label employees promoted her stuff, especially in the early days. I don’t get the swift hype. Musically mid, and as a person just a bland capitalist

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Anonymous #12 16w

If she’s the only person who would buy them then their price would sink significantly. They wouldn’t be worth 1/3 of a billion dollars.

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Anonymous #26 16w

The original recordings of all her music is owned by her instead of the recording company. She can do whatever she wants with them now

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Anonymous #16 16w

She does own all of it though, that’s the thing. Most labels create contracts where, you’re right, and other people own the singer’s music. That’s the norm. For Taylor, she now owns every piece of art she has ever put out which is NOT normal for singers.

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Anonymous #16 16w

she didn’t own it at all, they sold it, and she’s a big enough star to where she should not have to be controlled by her past recording company. NO artist should be toxically controlled by their recording company and should be free to get the profits they deserve and do what they want with their music. yes the industry has been like that but should NOT be anymore which is why she’s doing this.

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Anonymous #29 16w

That’s not even almost true.

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Anonymous #9 16w

it wasn’t a cash grab, it was meant to devalue her stolen work so that she could buy it back for a fair price. it gave her enough leverage to buy them back.

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Anonymous #20 16w

If you use a label to record, promote, and publish the music, it isn’t yours.

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Anonymous #12 16w

that’s just straight up false

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Anonymous #20 16w

You’re right she didn’t own it before, but she does now. That’s what the legal fight was over back in 2019. Majority of artists do not own their own work in the industry though - which I agree, is wrong. We’re saying the same exact point I think so I’m not sure what this conversation is about anymore. 🫤

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Anonymous #23 16w

i was replying to #16 too i agree with you

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Anonymous #20 16w

Oh gotcha my bad

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Calling someone an idiotic drone is crazy!!!

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you’re the one spending your time on an anonymous app trashing people for liking…music?

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Anonymous #9 16w

It 100% was. Don’t forget she and her dad made millions off the previous sales of her masters by big machine. Nothing was ever stolen.

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Anonymous #20 16w

No, I’m trash talking people for being stupid. Listen to whatever the fuck you want to listen to. Don’t be a fucking idiot and buy it 3 times.

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Anonymous #12 16w

why do you even care?

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never said i wasn’t but im also not calling anyone an idiot or saying unproductive crude things?

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and you’re still here!!

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Anonymous #37 16w

her merch alone since 2020 has been going crazy with the 15 or w/e versions of folkmore and the clock printing on the 4 midnights vinyls then the surprise signed edition drop right after people already bought 4 to put on a shelf

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Anonymous #37 16w

her image and everything are maintained so well too that it's like nearly impossible to get anything through that would even hurt her image

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Anonymous #37 16w

and like make some people a bit disillusioned

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Anonymous #37 16w

i agree the merch is out of hand & i think she should take a more personal role in designing it and pricing but it’s pretty standard nowadays to have vinyl variants and $80 hoodies as much as i hate it

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Anonymous #37 16w

tour merch was also handled so poorly that i genuinely don't know how it wasn't intentional for w/e scarcity reasons her team might've thought up

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Anonymous #37 16w

and yeah before someone says it too i know she's not running her business team obv but in no world is she not aware of all this at a surface level cause every decision directly effects her

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Anonymous #20 16w

i know and maybe i'm salty that my folklore cardigan looks like a rats nest but she seriously does not need the same profit margins as a little indie band and i wouldn't even mind paying $80 for a good quality thing but i don't even touch the 1989 tv merch i got cause it feels horrible

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Anonymous #37 16w

i agree a lot of the merch has come back defective or not up to expectation but i think taylor nation has been handling it well from what ive seen. in my personal experience, when i tell them something is defective or got lost they’ve replaced or refunded right away.

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Anonymous #20 16w

which i also totally respect and is why i only buy vinyls from her store online but i'd just appreciate a good product too on top of good support

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Anonymous #37 16w

same

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Anonymous #9 16w

The re-recordings started as a personal project for her. The fans were the ones who said they would support her and stopped streaming and buying the original albums, and encouraged her to keep releasing the Taylor’s Version re-recordings. She also put vault tracks on those TV albums, and made new stylistic choices. I would call all the vinyl variants a cash grab, but not the re-recordings themselves.

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Anonymous #5 16w

Think of it like a bake sale. Everyone who streamed or purchased music, merch, tickets, etc contributed to Taylor’s purchase of her masters

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Anonymous #36 16w

Can you elaborate on “nothing was ever stolen”?

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Girl 😭 it is MUSIC. Why do you care so much about

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Anonymous fashionfemme 16w

Bullshit. The re-recording started as a lie when big machine sold their entire catalog. She pretended that her work was stolen and re recording was her way of “reclaiming” her work. BTW she’s always made royalties off her originals. She made millions off the sale, and passed on purchasing them. The entire victim narrative is a lie. And she used her fans to enrich herself.

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Anonymous #12 16w

Right, they invested in her in exchange for some ownership, what she has done it made the industry harder for the next generation

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Anonymous #37 16w

She’s not a businesswoman. Her dad, the multimillionaire investment banker is. He’s the one who created her entire career and still runs it all. She’s just an uneducated prop.

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Anonymous #36 16w

If T Swizzle is good at anything, it’s making money. People have been royally screwed far more than her, but she sold the story, and made millions off it

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Anonymous #6 16w

No argument there

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Anonymous #5 16w

Exactly

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Anonymous #36 16w

I’m confused how you think she was playing the victim?

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Anonymous #5 16w

atw10mvtv doesn’t matter???? lets think

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Anonymous #36 16w

She actually made it easier for artist’s to own their own work. She’s advocated for artists for years now. She’s the main reason Spotify decided to start paying the artists more because she removed her music from the platform until they agreed to give artists the compensation they deserve.

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Anonymous #36 16w

Her family supports her sure but she’s 35 years old and absolutely runs all her own shit now…maybe when she was a teenager, yes you would be correct, but not now. You clearly don’t like Taylor. Why are you here…?

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Anonymous #36 16w

no one gets to her position and keeps it for over a decade by being some prop. she's waaay too strong willed to just sit back and be told what to do without instantly rebelling and ruining her brand

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Anonymous #37 16w

being good at business does not mean you've got some mba from harvard but she's got the business sense to dictate where her ship goes without screwing it up

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Anonymous #37 16w

if she was just some puppet too she would not have the power to order stuff to be made and released to mess with other people in the industry that she doesn't like

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You’re disgusting

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are we still struggling with the puberty hormones king?

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Anonymous #37 16w

Low T response

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Anonymous #26 16w

You’re dumb af

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Anonymous #5 16w

Well they did when they were released!

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That’s okay! Just wait for the re-re-release! This time with an extra vinyl color to collect and share with all your besties!

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Anonymous #53 16w

Victim complex for days

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Anonymous #55 15w

Masters is the term for the original recordings of the music or something like that. Now she owns them, before she owned them she wouldn’t have been making nearly as much money from them (feel free to fact check me). Now she owns the original copy of the recordings and can use them however she wants

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Anonymous razzledazzle 15w

Oh wow thank you! Was she signed to a label

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Anonymous #55 15w

Her albums were all through a label and they sold them to scooter Braun, so she wouldn’t get any money from their sales as he hated her. She was releasing TV versions so she could get the money she deserves from her music as they only owned to recorded songs on the albums that were out, not the songs themselves

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Anonymous #55 15w

Have you ever used a search engine in your life?

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Anonymous #7 15w

That’s a lie the swiftie-verse concocted to justify her cash grab. She always received money from use of her music. She just wanted to be the ONLY one getting paid.

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Anonymous #12 15w

Have you ever mind the business that pays u? Dumbass B!tch smd

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Anonymous #36 15w

Yeah I personally would like to receive everything for my work and not a man who I despise to benefit off of the work I produced throughout my childhood/young adulthood.

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Anonymous #29 15w

When you accept money as an investment in exchange for giving up some ownership, that’s how it works. That’s how business works, in every industry. It was a normal contract and she’s been lying for years just to make more money off her dumb fans by pretending there was something nefarious in it. She could have had her masters years ago but turned it down because she wanted a 7 year contract, they wanted a 10 year contract.

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Anonymous #36 15w

a lot of people are very hung up about the money side of it but it wasn't cause of that the big thing with the re-records is that she has full control over how those recordings can be used now instead of having to go through the rights holders who did get in her way a couple times and didn't let her use some recordings

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Anonymous #37 15w

i totally agree that it's in general a very standard industry practice, they get a share of the profits and you get a studio, tour money, connections, support, marketing, etc which makes the cut a lot less awful than it's made out to be but in this case she mainly wanted to have the rights back and prob to be a little petty too

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Anonymous #55 15w

Stay stupid, NPC.

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Anonymous #12 15w

Bc Im not caught up in some swiftie shit I’m stupid 😹😹😹??? I’m talking to a real npc degenerate

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Anonymous #55 15w

No, that’s not why. You’d understand that if you weren’t stupid.

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Anonymous #12 15w

Ok take care parasocial 💗

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Anonymous #36 15w

Okay so if I knew as little as you did, I’d be just as annoyed and confused too. But her old record label, who practically raised her, was selling her stuff to someone they knew she particularly didn’t enjoy working with. That would piss anyone off. So she offered to buy her own work from her label for the same price and they said no to her. That’s just a huge “fuck you” to people you grew up around, worked intimately with, and trusted.

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Anonymous #36 15w

She wanted out of her contract because they were threatening to sell her stuff. And they did. So she left. I think it is pretty simple. They could’ve just sold it to her if they wanted the money and kept her on their label but they tried to strong arm her and I think any person who is capable of practicing compassion would understand that her situation was a shitty one to be in

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Anonymous #29 15w

They offered to GIVE it to her for free. She turned them down. Compassion? Wake up. You’re right they did sell their company, which she knew was coming and her family profited off of as they were part owners in big machine. All the receipts are out there. She lied again and again to make money off her fans based on a series of lies and false narratives to make you all believe she’s some victim. You all are pathetic.

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Anonymous #36 15w

It was not for free and there were stipulations in the contract she did not agree with. So no. It’s not that simple. The internet is free if you’d like to educate yourself on the entire matter. You sound very emotionally upset for someone who clearly doesn’t care. You’re exactly the type of person she writes songs about aka….Cassandra.

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Anonymous #36 15w

She never had the opportunity to buy her masters back without any clauses she didn’t agree with, what part of that isn’t clicking with you? All this “wake up” talk is old. It’s been years. She put out her TVs, made money off them, let the SVs suffer not making money, and then was presented an opportunity to buy her masters back with no stipulations. And now we’re here :) Swifties are happy. We got exactly what we wanted and fully support Taylor. So….you can leave now

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Anonymous #23 15w

And you’re going to buy the re-re-release, too. I heard it’s going to have a secret track where she actually records herself shitting directly into your mouth

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Anonymous #36 15w

No. You’re just wrong. She offered to buy them at fair market value which is what scooter was offering to pay.

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Anonymous #36 15w

You’re thrashing around and freaking out and throwing insults at everyone and verbally stomping your feet around over.. this? The worst part is that you are making things up and are even angrier when people correct you LMAO😂😂😂

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Anonymous #12 15w

There will be no re-re-release. The entire point of the TVs was so Taylor owned them. No she owns everything she has ever created and will continue to do so. If you’d like to be ignorant and gross, please do it on your own time so we don’t have to see this 😬

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Anonymous #23 15w

The entire point of them was to make some money. And the entire point of the next ones will be to do the same. And you’ll buy it because you think it will get her to notice you.

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Anonymous #12 15w

The entire point of them was that she OWNED THEM. If you don’t have enough brain cells to understand that, then you are unable to be helped. It sounds like you’re the one with the parasocial relationship and you’re projecting😬 would you like to talk about your big feelings?

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Anonymous #12 15w

Are you.. like.. okay?

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Anonymous #36 15w

She explained it pretty well. She wanted to leave in 2018 when her contract with big machine ended. She signed this 13 year contract when she was 15. When the contract was expiring, she wanted to purchase her work before moving on to another label. She didn’t want to resign with them at all. They wouldn’t let her buy back her work and said that she could only resign with them and earn one album back for every album she recorded and stay with them for 10 more years. She knew they would be sold to

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Anonymous #22 15w

another man she hated, scooter and that the label would be owned by him. She probably offered 7 years at one point out of desperation and they argued back and forth. She said fuck this I’m not working for these people who I make up most of their income and they pay me 10% when this other label is offering me 50%+ and ownership of my work, and she signed there anyways out of principle. She knew she could re-record and did that instead so she wouldn’t continue to be owned and used by big machine.

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Anonymous #36 15w

You know the brain dead swiffers are here when they are downvoting the actual receipts that show their dear mother is a liar.

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Anonymous #23 15w

Bullshit. The receipts prove that.

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Anonymous #22 15w

She lied.

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Anonymous #36 15w

it’s a blurry screenshot bro and it’s over why do u care so much

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Anonymous #36 15w

Your screenshots literally say “agreed provided that TS materials would be subject to the terms and conditions…..” which are the terms and conditions she did not agree with. Notice how she also wanted 7 years and then pushed back and wanted 10 years (which is exactly what #22 said). It’s over dude. You clearly don’t like Taylor, weren’t around in 2018 when this whole thing went down and are ignorant on the past 7 years where Taylor’s Version is involved. So please go do something productive.

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Anonymous #36 15w

***they pushed back

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Anonymous #22 15w

Keep getting grifted, smoothie.

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Anonymous #36 15w

Dude, real talk, I’d be embarrassed if I was willing to go that low with insults over a conversation that did not affect me. I kinda feel bad for people like you. Only because it would be so draining to get so angry all the time over something so insignificant. If your identity was revealed and your friends and family saw this, I can’t imagine you’d be too happy. You’d probably lash out again but at them tbh..

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Anonymous #36 15w

Still, goes to show how easy it is to be the ugliest version of yourself when you can hide behind a screen and your anonymity like a coward. Anyways.. just thought you deserved to hear that. It could make you a better person. Or maybe it’ll just make you angrier. Likely the latter, but it’s never too late to change

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