Anonymous #1 2w

Tbh D-CAY is pretty fire as well

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Anonymous #1 2w

Salt in the water would depress the melting point and make it last longer😛

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Anonymous #5 2w

the opposite is true… the ice would melt quicker wtih salt in it. Google “freezing point depression and boiling point elevation”

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Anonymous #7 2w

Yeah you’re correct I forgot basic colligative properties💔 chem 2 was 2.5 years ago for me now

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Anonymous #5 2w

So you could put the salt water in all the letters except decay!

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Anonymous #5 2w

all g bro at least you remembered that salt has some sort of affect on the melting point💯

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Anonymous #8 2w

Weird

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Anonymous #20 2w

It is both. The powers that be vote on behalf of the citizens for many policies, but it’s a democracy because we vote for the people running the show. Well, we’re supposed to anyway.

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The amount of people downvoting this makes me give up hope. We’re literally a democratic republic not a democracy that’s why our popular vote is useless.

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A democratic republic

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Anonymous #31 2w

Constitutional republic

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we are a democratic republic.

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No im tardd

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Anonymous tardd 2w

you might be

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You are lying who controls everything…. The republicans duh

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Anonymous #23 2w

Both can be bad, and one is worse than other

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Anonymous #5 2w

We put salt on roads to keep them from freezing faster

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Anonymous #28 2w

“erm we’re not a democracy we’re a republic”… they’re not antonyms.

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Anonymous #18 2w

It’s laughable you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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Anonymous #41 2w

You don’t know anything huh

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Anonymous #41 2w

bro forgets higher ups exist

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Anonymous #41 2w

There needs to be 60 votes to pass the budget bill and there’s only 53 republicans in the senate, the republicans wanted to pass the bill to keep the budget the same as last year but the democrats WOULD NOT sign off on it because they wanted a shit ton more money for the budget (which would’ve put us more in debt) because the democrats wouldn’t sign off on it the government shut down because there was no money left in the budget

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Anonymous #17 2w

Trump has like no control over the senate, that’s the point of having 3 branches so one branch never gets too much power, you’re a little slow huh

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You know it was the republicans trying to cut medicare and medicaid right? You know they would rather spend a trillion on bombing brown kids than helping citizens at home right?

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Anonymous #49 2w

Listen to Michael Parenti

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Anonymous #41 2w

You’re right, one has tried to create peace while one was funding wars

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Anonymous #23 2w

What did Biden even do, I can name like 30 awful things Trump has done in the past few weeks but everything Biden did was for the common American

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Anonymous #47 2w

I said a third party. He clearly leans left.

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Anonymous #4 2w

right so we’re just gonna ignore the fact that trump created peace in the middle east? when biden openly let illegal criminals into our country and basically ignored the american people

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Anonymous #50 2w

Yea. Say thanks to Obama

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Anonymous #44 2w

If you’re referencing the ceasefire that has not actually “created peace”. Palestine is still under Israeli occupation and Khan Younis was bombed shortly after the ceasefire. Yes, there was progress made in the sense that Israeli hostages were returned but the Middle East is far from fully at peace

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Anonymous #49 2w

There’s no socialist party in America

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Anonymous #37 2w

we are an oligarchy

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Anonymous #32 2w

The democrats shut the government down

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Anonymous #41 2w

It’s pretty clear the democrats shut it down all the republicans voted to keep it open only need 8 dems to vote yet but they couldn’t do what’s in there voters best interest as usual they only care about the money in there pockets and now they get paid without having to work

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Anonymous #4 2w

Out of curiosity and debate I’d love to hear your lists for both.

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what do you even know about socialism?

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Anonymous #32 2w

Question, if he is in the list why didn’t Obama release it? Or Biden? Or any other democrat? Democrats wouldn’t care who went down as long as they could sink Trump. The fact an Obama judge is keeping things sealed should say enough.

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Anonymous #44 2w

are u having a stroke? what are you talking abt?

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Anonymous #36 2w

Why do you say that like it changes something? I don’t get why conservatives are proud of the fact that democracy is dying

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Yes because socialism is a good idea

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No it was republicans moron. They’re the ones in charge

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Anonymous #40 2w

Hey dumbass, maybe the reason they didn’t pass it is because it’s a horrible idea. They chose to do their fucking jobs and not hurt the American citizen

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Anonymous #40 2w

You’re really slow. Trump is the one calling the shots for the republicans, so he controls the republicans in Senate

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Anonymous #53 2w

Hey moron, this is in the voters best interest

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Anonymous #58 2w

He’s clearly on the list. The file was sealed until Trump took office, and unlike you fuckers, the democrats actually care about the law. If Trump isn’t on it, why is he fighting so hard to not release it

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Anonymous #23 2w

What did Biden do? Fix the economy? Not be a fascist?

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Anonymous #60 2w

It doesn’t matter if he controls the republicans in the senate without the help of the democrats nothing gets through, are you slow, the bill the republicans wanted to pass was just to keep the budget this year the same as last year how tf does that hurt the American people, the democrats not passing the bill is hurting Americans because it’s shutting down the government meaning some people aren’t getting paid

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Anonymous #24 2w

So what do you want us to do?

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Anonymous #40 2w

Yeah Trump is funding wars

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Anonymous #44 2w

Trump is ignoring the American people. Trump hasn’t created peace he’s the one sending weapons to a genocidal regime

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Anonymous #20 2w

Why are you saying this like it means something. We are a democracy

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Anonymous #19 2w

The senate is run by republicans moron

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Anonymous #48 2w

We are a democracy dipshit. Why are you proud of the government stomping out democracy

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Anonymous #47 2w

Gross

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Anonymous #49 2w

There is no left party in America

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Anonymous #33 2w

We literally fucking are

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Anonymous #50 2w

It’s dying pretty fucking fast

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Anonymous #60 2w

Not*

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Anonymous #25 2w

Well he was stopped by Americans fighting fascism but now Americans are fighting for fascism

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Anonymous #44 2w

The Republicans are killing democracy dumbass. They’re fascists. The Kirk killer was a right winger moron

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Anonymous #33 2w

Yes we are. Why are you proud of republicans trying to kill democracy?

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Anonymous #33 2w

Yes we are. Why are you proud of republicans trying to kill democracy?

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Anonymous #60 2w

Ironic the side that wants to silence anyone who disagrees with them is calling people fascists

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Anonymous #55 2w

Brother check the news Trump and his regime are doing something insane at least daily. Literally caught some republican with a Nazi flag in his office yesterday

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Anonymous #49 2w

“we need a third party” but when someone mentions someone is clearly separated from both political parties you don’t want them?

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Anonymous #60 2w

That isn’t a real picture of me dumbass, I just googled boomer

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Anonymous #23 2w

No the side that wants to silence anyone who disagrees with them is republicans dumbass. You guys are fascists

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Anonymous #23 2w

Nobody on the left is trying to silence you

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Anonymous #47 2w

And why are you proud of that? I don’t understand you republicans who just continue to cheer on the downfall of the country

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Anonymous #23 2w

You can say whatever you want dude. Nobody is silencing you

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Anonymous #7 2w

you can still use this fact to get the same effect just in all the letters you want to melt first

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Anonymous #60 2w

They don’t know any better

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Anonymous #60 2w

You’re right ??

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Anonymous #47 2w

How is that my fault? We’ve been trying to tell get them to learn and they refuse

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Anonymous #60 2w

I was being friendly man, Jesus

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Anonymous #47 2w

How is this being friendly? Like what do you want me to do to fix literally everything?

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Anonymous #60 2w

Dude I’m the socialist

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Anonymous #47 2w

I’m confused then, why are you mad at me?

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Anonymous #63 2w

What is the fucking difference then? Why are you proud of republicans trying to erase democracy? Why are you trying to act like democracy is bad? We are literally a democracy

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Anonymous #60 2w

Funny. Because we are not. If you want to believe everything you see on the internet that’s fine, but look up democracy and you’ll see that the United States is set up on our constitutional standards. We elect our government officials which makes us a constitutional republic actually (my apologies) and not a democracy. As a democracy is ruled by the majority, which we are not.

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Anonymous #63 2w

Electoral college dumbass

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Anonymous #40 2w

people aren’t getting paid you say?

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Anonymous #60 2w

roll over and die apparently

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Anonymous #13 2w

Wouldn’t it be a pencil with ice on it lol

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Anonymous #46 2w

they want a puppet conservative party lol

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Anonymous #49 2w

Honestly we just need to elect people with brains

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Explain to me what socialism and how it works is in your own words

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Anonymous #60 2w

We’re not and I’m not a republican

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Anonymous #65 2w

Seems so

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Anonymous #71 2w

are all of you democrats brainless?

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Anonymous #44 2w

They are actually regarded

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Anonymous #44 2w

Yall will deadass watch this man rape children and deport people without a trial and say he's sent from god. But we're the dumb ones

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Anonymous #4 2w

I think if he raped a child he wouldn’t be president, hope this helps!

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Anonymous #40 2w

I would hope, but here we are

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Anonymous #4 2w

first off, he sent ILLEGAL immigrants back to where they are citizens of because they snuck in and invaded our country, our space, killing our people(like what happened to laken riley), it’s just like how someone breaks into someone else’s home, exact same thing. and since when did trump ever rape a child? genuinely, is there any evidence of that? cited reliable sources?

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Anonymous #69 2w

#69.. ur so lucky

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Anonymous #67 2w

67

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Anonymous #60 2w

No they aren’t but ok

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Anonymous #18 2w

Google is free

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Anonymous #23 2w

The country’s literally gone downhill since Trump was elected

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Anonymous #40 2w

Common sense doesn’t exist with our government or justice system. Criminals aren’t supposed to be president but we have a felon as one.

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Anonymous #44 2w

A republican is the one who shot Kirk dumbass

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Anonymous #73 2w

actually there’s nothing in the constitution or laws that prohibits a criminal running or obtaining office.

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Anonymous #65 2w

When has Trump ever said anything and meant it

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Anonymous #46 2w

That we are in fact not a democracy

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Anonymous #42 2w

Those words aren’t antonyms…

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Anonymous #46 2w

A democracy and a constitutional republic are two different forms of government

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Anonymous #63 2w

Technically a constitutional federal republic, we’re not actually a democratic republic

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Anonymous #63 2w

So we don’t vote? That just doesn’t happen? That’s literally what a goddamn democracy is. I know you hate democracy because it sounds like democrat but that’s no excuse to be a fucking moron

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Anonymous #60 2w

no their definitions are accurate. please do some research.

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Anonymous #77 2w

Yes this is true. The U.S. is indeed a constitutional republic. We’re also a representative democracy. The people (by popular voting) vote for who represents them at the state, local, and to an extent at the national level. Those are democratic processes and shows we do indeed have democracy. We’re not a democracy in the government system because it’s incredibly flawed. A democracy or a direct democracy would lead to us voting nearly everyday.

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Anonymous #75 2w

Their definitions aren’t fully accurate. Voting is a democratic process afforded to us by the constitutional republic. We have democracy.

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Anonymous #46 2w

democratic process yes, still a constitutional republic. the american education system has failed us

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Anonymous #75 2w

Yeah, it’s obvious it pretty much failed you too about what you may say or do. Talk about close minds you got one.

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Anonymous #33 2w

We are not a true democracy true democracy is everyone gets a vote on everything we are a federal republic

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Anonymous #9 2w

How tf are we supposed to know if they're illegals if he doesn't give them a trial. Holy critical thinking. And we're never gonna see the evidence because it probably includes almost every politician from the last 50-80 years at least.

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Anonymous #79 2w

Exactly why I said. You replied to the wrong person

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Anonymous #18 2w

….. a republic is a representative democracy……….

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Anonymous #68 2w

I’m not the slightest bit surprised at the turn this chain took

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Anonymous #46 2w

There are some right wing nutjobs who are separated from both parties too, but adding them as a third party means nothing because they add nothing. You can’t just merely “mention someone”.

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Anonymous #65 2w

Who is “they”?

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Anonymous #49 2w

No there aren’t. The right wing nutjobs are the ones running the party

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Anonymous #60 2w

Yes there are, and there are right nutjobs running the party. #47 suggested a far left extremist, even though there are far left extremists in the other party. There’s the left, there’s the right, and then there’s the rest of us. You clearly don’t want a party for the rest of us.

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joe biden was too, they just got him off since he was an old man. what about hunter biden’s laptop? literally like stfu

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Anonymous #33 2w

We are in fact a representative democracy

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Anonymous #60 2w

idk biden wasn’t really functioning

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Anonymous #81 2w

No

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Anonymous #60 2w

well i would like to not get murdered by an illegal immigrant while jogging, but yeah let everyone in freely sure

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Anonymous #53 2w

False. The R’s left town to avoid swearing in Adelita Grijalva because she’ll be the last vote needed to bring a vote to the floor to force everyone to go on record whether or not to release the Epstein files.

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Anonymous #60 2w

Do more than cry about it for starters 😂

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Anonymous #4 2w

if there’s no evidence of trump raping a child, it most likely never happened. also dude i don’t know how we’re supposed to know, i don’t make the laws, BUT what i do know is that ICE’s purpose is to find that out and clear out the illegals, and if you’re a legal citizen here, then no worries go about your day. if you’re not a legal citizen you’re going back to where you are a citizen of. literally simple as that. illegal immigrants are sneaking in and taking our spots in schools, jobs, etc.

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Anonymous #9 2w

literally invading our space ILLEGALLY

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Anonymous #9 2w

What do you mean taking our spots in jobs and schools?! If you’re not getting accepted into these this is your issue, not theirs. There is plenty of room. And in order to apply to schools and important programs you need proper documentation.

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Anonymous #87 2w

The republicans acted like that when Kirk died

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Anonymous brownwaffle 2w

idk the us is pretty crowded already

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Anonymous #9 2w

And it’s not because of immigrants

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Anonymous brownwaffle 2w

right because that was a human life taken away, this is just melted ice

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Anonymous #9 2w

It’s obviously a symbol for thousands of others lives taken away… you need to think of things deeper than just surface level

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Anonymous brownwaffle 2w

Wow it’s almost like an assignation is a major event 🤯

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Anonymous #40 2w

You know that… the intent of the ice… was to melt right??!! No one is upset about it melting that’s literally the whole point

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Anonymous #40 2w

This sculpture is very obviously related to the millions of deaths happening in Gaza. But you only care about people dying if they’re republican

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Anonymous brownwaffle 2w

nobody should ever have to die like that, not the innocent people in Gaza, not Charlie Kirk, not anybody (unless someone actually physically raped/SA’ed/molested someone else or murdered them for no reason, then yeah death penalty), but i’m just saying people are comparing deaths like it’s competition and blaming the wrong people

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Anonymous #81 2w

No it’s not a democracy.

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Anonymous brownwaffle 2w

Does what you just said not concern you? That’s THE most powerful man in the world.

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Anonymous #60 2w

We're literally not, do you vote on laws? Nope. That makes us a republic 😭😭

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Anonymous #20 2w

A democratic republic…

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Anonymous #18 2w

A democratic republic…

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Anonymous #60 2w

Americans are fighting against fascism but our government has been usurped by oligarchs and fascists

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Anonymous #47 2w

You know a republic is a type of democracy right???

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Anonymous #9 2w

So that means the government should have a secret police force and kidnap American citizens? Because that’s what’s happening

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Anonymous #9 2w

We can still deport people without due process so we can make sure they're actually here illegally, surely that makes sense to you

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Anonymous #4 2w

With due process*

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This ain’t AI.

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Is ts the next big excuse

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Anonymous #9 2w

You’re significantly more likely to be killed by an American. This is just straight up fear mongering

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Anonymous #4 2w

The fact that these people claim to be all about “law and order” and then bitch about having to go through due process

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They’re not different moron. They’re taken at different times of day

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Brother cannot comprehend the fact that different shapes melt differently or how differing levels of sun exposure would make something melt faster or slower. Please go touch grass

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Yes because structural strength is definitely the same as melting resistance

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Anonymous #60 2w

We are a republic

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Anonymous #18 2w

Yes, it is. A republic is a type of representative democracy.

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Anonymous #96 2w

Yes it really does concern me that the most powerful man in the world is a rapist and a liar who isn’t attempting to do anything good with his power whatsoever

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Anonymous #9 2w

So then say this to the original comment? I’m in agreement with you but you need to realize that an ice sculpture is harmless

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He’s done nothing for the “border” other than shut down the government when no one wants to fund his wall

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Great now what is going to do about all the Palestinians getting killed innocently by Israel

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Anonymous #2 2w

rapper stage name

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Anonymous #81 2w

No a republic is a republic.

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Anonymous #73 2w

Not true at all

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Anonymous #73 2w

That’s just wrong 😭

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Anonymous #40 2w

The reason it would hurt people is because there is an automatic change to spending set to occur at the end of the year; with the current bill, ACA subsidies expire in December. That means that it’s litteraly the exact opposite of what your saying; while republicans are indeed trying to pass a CR, that CR would gaurentee the elimination of the subsidies, while democrats are trying to extend them in order to keep the same

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Because they were taken at different times of day, and in the second photo the sun was right behind the photo taker meaning shadows on the capital and the surrounding areas are less clear

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Anonymous #60 2w

Small d democratic dude. Learn the *basics* of political discourse before coming on here and sharing your opinion

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Anonymous #60 2w

Nope nope nope

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You know America “kills its own people” too right? We still have executions? The people Hamas just executed were members of a gang being directly funded by Israel to work in tandem with the IDF to attack Hamas; I’m personally against the death penalty in all cases, so I don’t really support it, but it’s hard to be pearl clutching about then executing active combatants

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Anonymous #116 2w

I ant readin all at lil bro nice typing tho ur English teacher would be proud of I

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Anonymous #47 2w

You realize when people say “we are losing democracy” they mean “we are losing the peoples ability to affect the government over private interests, oligarchs, and entrenched powers”. Stop being such a know it all

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Anonymous #9 2w

Actually he is pretty consistently sending people to countries they *are not* from, including El Salvador and South Sudan. The example of Laken Riley doesn’t change the fact, proven over and over in *so* many studies, that immigrants legal or illigal commit less crime than citizens do

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Anonymous #60 2w

socialism is an economic system. democracy is a government system. the two can co exist. just like you can be fascist and capitalist. you can be socialist and a democratic. OPEN THE SCHOOLS

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Anonymous #40 2w

DUMBASS HO!! THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY UR HEALTHCARE U DUMB CUCK

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Boy wtf u talkin ab😭😭

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Anonymous #118 2w

Fr

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Anonymous #9 2w

And yes, in 2016 multiple anonymous girls, particularly one Katie Johnson (pseudonym) filed a suit alleging some pretty dark stuff that I can link, before they received so many death and bomb threats that the case was abandoned out of fear for their own safety, and was burried/ignored by most media. That combined with his ties to epstien, the birthday letter, and plenty more, paint a pretty clear picture. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.646485.1.0.pdf Go to page 3

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Anonymous #18 2w

You realize when people say "we are losing democracy" they mean "we are losing the peoples ability to affect the government over private interests, oligarchs, and entrenched powers". This is a technicality that is completely unrelated to the actual point being made

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Anonymous #112 2w

You realize when people say "we are losing democracy" they mean "we are losing the peoples ability to affect the government over private interests, oligarchs, and entrenched powers". This is equivalent to saying “the Soviet Union wasn’t actually communism” like technically it’s right, but it almost always completely misses the point being made

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Anonymous #20 2w

You realize when people say "we are losing democracy" they mean "we are losing the peoples ability to affect the government over private interests, oligarchs, and entrenched powers" This is a technicality that is completely unrelated to the actual point being made

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Anonymous #64 2w

Dude, you are missing the point. When people say we are losing “democracy”, they mean the idea of a government run by the people and not oligarchs or entrenched interests. Not to mention you are wrong anyway; a republic is a form of democracy. But even if it wasn’t, this technicality is completely unrelated and unimportant to the point most people are trying to make

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Anonymous #18 2w

Republics are a form of democracy. You are missing the point of what people mean when say they are concerned about democracy

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Anonymous #18 2w

Literally google “is a republic a type of democracy”

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Anonymous #40 2w

They literally are

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Anonymous #104 2w

And most of the country voted for those fascists so yes, Americans are fighting for fascism

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Anonymous #60 2w

Pretty sure most of the people who voted for him didn’t have this in mind and are probably convinced it’s all fake news. I’d definitely say this is ignorance rather than intent. Of course there are a large amount of bad eggs in the carton but I definitely wouldn’t call it all out support. Ik a lot of republicans shaking their heads rn

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Anonymous #60 2w

Like how do you not understand how easily weaponized this could be against political opponents and us citizens. They are literally kidnapping people and taking them god knows where with no trial. Ts is insane

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Anonymous #4 2w

Because they don’t care about anything as long as their side wins and they get to watch people be tortured

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no, they really care about america, and want to save it from being overtaken by tyrants

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Anonymous #122 2w

It got you talking about it, didn't it?

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Anonymous #4 2w

Ok, and that does what? We’re talking about the ice. What new information is being gained? If anything, googling “White House Ice” is going to bring up this bs instead of information on immigration. It’s an obfuscation

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Anonymous #122 2w

It's just art bro it's not supposed to do anything besides get people talking. One person doing this as their activism doesn't shit on someone else doing something more physical or lasting or whatever. If anything it could inspire people in DC to stand up a little more when they see other people aren't just gonna take it on the cheek. It may not be a huge dent but it's part of the larger message of resisting ts

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Ok, I did, points a till stand though. Thanks for the correction

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No he is stupid

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Yes, jackass. That’s what we allllll want. Obvs wanting a more free and fair nation with citizen input means WE WANT CHINA. 🖕

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Anonymous #123 2w

China is currently freer and fairer than the US so jot that down too lmao

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Anonymous #66 2w

You win. Good night.

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Anonymous #31 2w

We are not a democratic republic are you slow

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Anonymous #122 2w

???

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Anonymous #60 2w

Embarrassing😭

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Anonymous #122 2w

Top ten most stupid things i have ever heard

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Anonymous #40 2w

All these Down votes means ur telling the truth 😂

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Anonymous #129 2w

All kamela Harris glazing is crazy 😭😭😭😭😭😭

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Anonymous #128 2w

Ong like you guys did not even vote for her in the primaries 😭

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Anonymous #117 2w

We have jobs and don’t depend on gov welfare say it with me

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Anonymous #129 2w

God bless ice God bless Trump

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Anonymous #128 2w

0/10

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Anonymous #128 2w

Trump is going to hell just like your boy Kirk.

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Anonymous #113 2w

basically to dumb it down, the united states kills people too, on the daily. it’s not fair to criticize hamas when we have the same issues here.

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Anonymous #126 2w

We’re literally trending towards not having one. So weird that you’re happy to see your political opponents get the death penalty

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give examples? okay, the press has to ask to release information from press conferences, even if it’s already unclassified. the two party system is failing us as its citizens

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how can citizens be expected to participate in the government if they’re belling blocked from receiving information about events in said government

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Anonymous #130 2w

-5/10

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Anonymous #130 2w

y’all vote to get rid of WIC lmfao sybau

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Holy straw man fallacy. In what way is that what I said.

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People people your all fucking idiots the only true power in America is the fucking CIA they killed Kennedy because they didn’t like him and if they for a second thought that trump was going to destroy America then they would have exposed the contents of his head already

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I’m telling you it won’t make a difference the CIA controls the government

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You ban lobbying and gerrymandering, for one.

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Anonymous #116 2w

I don’t know what those words mean

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Get rich and manipulate the government with bribes if you can’t beat em join em

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Behind the scenes lobbying is just called corruption, and it is always going to exist. But the first step is making it illegal; as it is right now, lobbying is perfectly legal, so everyone does it, and all of our politicians are bought because of it

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Anonymous #116 2w

Yep so just be the one who’s buying them problem solved

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Oh, you actually *want* to get rid of representatives? Honestly I respect it to a degree; it isn’t my personal solution but I can see where you are coming from. I thought you were just trying to strawman my argument 😅

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Anonymous #128 2w

Ong 😂

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Anonymous #33 2w

A republic is a type of democracy. The fact that we aren’t a direct democracy doesn’t mean we aren’t a democracy

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Anonymous #48 2w

A republic is a form of democracy; just because we aren’t a direct democracy doesnt make us not a democracy

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“Abuse of the system has always existed” and “the system is currently borderline non-functional due to the sheer magnitude of abuse it is dealing with” are not mutually exclusive. Both lobbying and our modern degree of gerrymandering are both creations of the 21st century after the Supreme Court explicitly made them illegal

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Our democracy was never perfect, but it’s hard to argue that it wasn’t functioning a whole lot better 60 years ago

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You recognize there is a difference between one person being bought and the whole government being bought right? The modern problem is scale; it’s the entire government at this point, rather than individuals abusing the system. Also, I really don’t understand why “democracy has always been broken” works as a response to “our democracy is breaking”; the end result is the same, and we should be pushing for better either way

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I get it, but imo the argument is pedantic; at the end of the day, we both agree there is a problem and we both want there to be a house. Why waste time arguing about the current state of the house when we could be working together to fix whatever damage it has taken?

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Anonymous #44 2w

Melissa Hortman

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There are absolutely ways to create more robust corruption protections that can catch people acting immorally, regardless of their personal penchant for taking bribes. And again, the problem we have now is scale; a few politicians being bought by the rich is *much* preferable to the entire government; pretending like those are the same is just giving in to nihilism

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Because the government was just more effective. I suppose technically it’s impossible to know, but the important metric isn’t just the behind the scenes numbers that we don’t know, it’s the output. You can always assume every government every is corrupt, and so nothing ever matters and give into nihilism, but that ignores that many systems are running functionally better than the one we are under now, meaning that real change for the better absolutely can be made

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Anonymous #116 2w

No 😂

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