Anonymous OP 1d

the problem is the usage of the phrase "mental illness" imo. as you noted in your post, that framing has been completely taken over by transphobes and right wing lunatics. if you posted "i think we can agree that trans healthcare is an important issue" then i'd be with you 100% but "trans people are mentally ill so we should support their treatment," though similar, sets off MAJOR alarm bells.

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Anonymous #1 1d

While i do agree with what you are saying, in tha it is not phrased well and that trans health care is important, i just feel like denying that being trans is caused by something messed up in brain chemistry is ignorant. I mean maybe someone has explained it better in your life, but what i have gotten is “it just feels wrong” or “i finally feel in my own skin” which is body dysmorphia

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Anonymous #1 1d

Like i feel like people here “illness” and assume it means wrong, hut i feel it just means different

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Anonymous OP 1d

that's fine, and i wish we lived in a world where mental illness was not enormously stigmatized, i'd just recommend against framing it that way in the current political climate.

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Anonymous #1 1d

Okay thank you 🙏. I get what you mean too. I am very bad at phrasing and im very strong opinioned

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Anonymous #5 22h

their discomfort with their bodies as a sign of "being a man" rather than just deregulation from trauma manifesting physically. similarly a lot of autistic people have unique relationships with their identities, but this doesn't always mean they're trans or nb, sometimes gender feels odd for autistic people because their relationships with social constructs are all just different from what neurotypical ppl experience.

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Anonymous #1 22h

mental illness isn't inherently a bad thing though. society associates it as bad, but mental illness itself isn't really bad unless you view it as bad

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Anonymous #7 19h

Agreed, I have a mental illness and it will never go away, and I hate when we can only look at one side of the illness, because I wouldn’t be uniquely me without it in both ways

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Anonymous #7 8h

A mental illness isn’t classified as a mental illness unless it causes dysfunction in your life, so it literally has to be bad to be considered a mental illness

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Anonymous #5 8h

See I can understand this view point, but science does not back this up. Psychologists do suggest that the individual explore how they view the world through their gender identity. It’s more a myth how quickly people validate those feelings. I have plenty of trans friends and all of them took it slow, discussed with psychiatrists, and only did things like changing names, pronouns, etc. before actually doing HRT and the individuals who do regret transitioning, they make up less than 1%

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Anonymous #4 8h

Just to be clear: I don’t disagree that it can be caused by other factors or lead to different expressions rather than being trans. I completely agree with you, I’m just arguing about how quickly those identities are validated vs how quickly those feelings are acted upon.

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Anonymous #9 7h

A mental illness is only bad when you have a society that has historically left people with these conditions in the dust. Autism and ADHD awareness is so new in our culture before they were thrown in an asylum and called “okay” and they were very not okay. It’s just requires different steps to navigate the same lives as neurotypical people. - someone with ADHD

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Anonymous #4 6h

If you can’t live independently, then you have a problem. That’s not society’s fault

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Anonymous #9 6h

You have a severe misunderstanding of “left in the dust” and “thrown in asylum”

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Anonymous OP 6h

You have a severe misunderstanding of how the world works. You seem to think the world owes you something

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Anonymous #9 6h

How did you come to that conclusion?

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Anonymous #9 6h

But it is, by definition, fundamentally a responsibility of society to assist all individuals of that society

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