Anonymous #2 10w

My Muslim friends do not like sharia law at all and don’t want to spread it and want to live in peace which I can respect.

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Anonymous #3 10w

Never heard of that and I’m catholic

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Anonymous #4 10w

The parts where they literally say bend the knee to become Muslim or they make you pay with money or your life

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Anonymous OP 10w

You mean jizyah? Yeah that’s literally just taxes and it’s less than you have to pay right now as a citizen of your own country. Plus as long as you pay it they protect your property and life like it’s their own. That’s also only applicable under a Muslim country who actually applies sharia which is like, one to none

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Anonymous OP 10w

“Bend to the knee to become Muslim” but the Quran says 2:256 “There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong…”. I don’t like fear mongering. Sharia isn’t all about peace but it’s not all about chaos either. It’s like any other legal system and Muslims aren’t even allowed to insult other religions, much less hurt people because of it. What happens if you don’t pay taxes in the U.S.? Do you go to jail? I fail to see a difference

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Anonymous #4 10w

People are literally be headed for not converting to Islam under shariah law

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Anonymous OP 10w

Shariah law is literally Qur’an and Sunnah (hadith), so if the Qur’an says “don’t force people to convert” and someone forces someone to convert or literally beheads them, then that cannot possibly be in the shariah. There’s religious extremists in all religions but I think we can agree that that doesn’t change the basis of the scripture or the law it goes by. It’s a part of the shariah that Christians and Jews HAVE to be allowed to live safely with the Muslims if they pay taxes. W/o converting.

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Anonymous #4 10w

Tell that to those living in Europe like myself because we have been getting it relentlessly from those invaders

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Anonymous OP 10w

Do you have a specific example of a Muslim in Europe trying to force someone to convert and saying that’s a part of the shariah? I believe you if you say someone tried to force their beliefs down others throats because unfortunately there’s people in every belief that does that, but I want an example where it specifically applies to something that came from our religious text that tells us to do that, because Islam explicitly states “no forced conversion”

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Anonymous #4 10w

There’s many examples online video where there are death threats given to those who don’t follow shariah law because to them once they invade and become the majority they want to make it like home. They do this in Canada and the states too. For example a liquor store owner in Houston was threatened byMuslims to shut down his store because alcohol is haram

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Anonymous OP 10w

Yes unfortunately there are people of all beliefs who don’t actually understand their religion and try to apply it on others, but that’s not shariah law. If it were a Muslim country, then yes, we could easily say “no alcohol”. But if it’s not our country then we can’t force anyone to shut down their businesses. That’s not a part of the shariah and I fail to see any reference from our texts that say otherwise. If shariah were applied there would be systems in place by scholars, not randoms.

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Anonymous #4 10w

By all means look at the honor killings that have been happening in Europe. Recently an 18 year old girl was honor killed by her brother and uncle because “she became too western”. It happened in Denmark this week

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Anonymous OP 10w

Be so fr

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Anonymous OP 10w

Are they Pakistani by chance? Honor killings are a cultural thing and don’t deserve connections to the religion at all. The Quran condemned the practice of pagan Arabs where they used to bury babies alive if they were girls, and the Sunnah said paradise lies at the feet of mothers, and that "There is no man whose two daughters reach the age of puberty and he treats them kindly for the time they are together, but they will gain him admittance to Paradise." Islam does not allow senseless killing.

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Anonymous #5 10w

Yeah mate I am fr

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Anonymous OP 10w

I’m only seeing you give references by people’s actions and not the actual religion. Would you like me to do the same? This is a worn out argument. If you don’t actually know what shariah is then that’s okay, but you don’t have to dedicate your life to dismantling it when you don’t fully understand it and fall for propaganda off of X

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Anonymous #4 10w

Mate I hear it shouted nearly every day in London

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Anonymous OP 10w

Hear what shouted? Again, I’m asking for a reference from the religion and not laymen Muslims who may or may not have an actual decent understanding of their religion.

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Anonymous #4 10w

Do you want me to quote straight from the Quran about the killing if infadels? That’s written in their book and anyone who is not Muslim is considered an infidel

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Anonymous OP 10w

Yes I do actually, because I already know the verses you’re referencing and I’d love to show you the tafsir (scholarly explanation) along with it. I can show you lectures and fatawa on them as well if you’re actually open to understanding the religion and aren’t just looking for a reason to think we’re all bloodthirsty.

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Anonymous OP 10w

And lol? Of course anyone who isn’t a Muslim is an infidel Islamically. Anyone who isn’t a Christian is considered an infidel according to them as well, correct? So what’s the big difference? The definition of kaffir, the Islamic term for an infidel is “the one who conceals the truth”. That’s it.

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Anonymous #4 10w

I don’t have a problem with the relaxed Muslims but the ones who advocate shariah law need to stay away from other societies and Surah 9 verse 5 since you really want to hear it

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Anonymous OP 10w

Sure thing, I’m going to give you the tafsir by Ibn Kathir because that’s my go-to scholar and you’re welcome to ask for my sources. He says this was revealed after the Quraysh (a polytheistic arab tribe) violated a treaty of war with the Muslims during the holy months. Ibn Kathir explicitly states this applied ONLY to the polytheists of the Quraysh at that time, since they’re the ones who broke the treaty, and does NOT include all Muslims. All Muslims advocate for shariah law by definition btw

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Anonymous #4 10w

Nope they aren’t considered infadels in Christianity

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Anonymous OP 10w

Does infidel mean disbeliever? I’m genuinely asking with the intent to understand, because if a non-Christian isn’t a disbeliever to a Christian, then who is?

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Anonymous OP 10w

bE sO fR

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Anonymous #4 10w

Allow me to correct myself since I am sincere, Ibn Kathir states this verse was revealed specifically after the Quraysh violated the treaty of war between them and the Muslims, and that’s why it was revealed. But he actually did not state that this ONLY applied to the polytheists of that time. That is likely because only Abrahamic religions are allowed in Muslim land (Christians and Jews), but other religions are not because they can’t pay the tax, so they would not be allowed to enter

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As a Muslim who’s father is the biggest sharia scholar in the US, just pointing out a mistake

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Anonymous #7 10w

Oh damn, mans is THE authority

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Then you’re more than welcome to not go to a country where shariah law is applied :) no one’s forcing you!

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Brother people get mad about that ALL the time 💀

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Maybe, but saying it makes you sound stupid

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That’s okay! :) as long as the criticism is accurate and not blown out of proportion like the person who made this post was doing!! It doesn’t matter to me what you think about the actual law, it matters to me if you’re making things up about it.

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Sure thing! All Muslims believe in shariah law considering it’s the law of the Quran and Sunnah. Not really a new concept. Just looks scary now because of political fear mongering. It’s literally less taxes than you’d have to pay as a citizen of your own country, but you’re welcome to have a problem with whatever you’d like. Your choice.

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Anonymous OP 10w

bEe Fr

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Anonymous #7 10w

I mean we also say Soviet Union, And as another commenter pointed out Chai tea. There isn’t anything wrong with using anglicized words to describe a concept in English. Just like there’s nothing wrong when another language does the same thing.

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Anonymous #11 10w

This is incorrect. 1st, “Soviet” means council, not unions. So it is not redundant, mean while both chai and tea have the same meaning, causing a redundancy

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Get an education I beg

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following #8

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Anonymous #3 9w

The closest to Christian nationalism was prolly Falangism and even then it’s not a religious body

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