Anonymous #4 12w

apartheid state is a "functional democracy" lmao

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Anonymous #6 12w

You’re completely correct, Good thing Israel is by no measure an apartheid state. But don’t take my word for it, ask the two million Arab Muslims who are full Israeli citizens how they feel under this awful apartheid regime. Maybe you’ll get a response from the oppressed Supreme Court justice, or one of the horribly disenfranchised members of parliament. Or just the man/woman on the street who enjoys… exactly the same rights and privileges as any other Israeli citizen.

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Anonymous #4 12w

you're an idiot. https://www.ft.com/content/3d57cf7c-a097-4e86-8f39-0f7720508123

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Anonymous #6 12w

Forgive me but I don’t like to follow links people send on yak as the chances of seeing something… vile. Are quite high. Just tell me what to google if you want me to look at something.

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Anonymous #4 12w

"Financial Times israeli arab second class citizens" should bring you to the same article

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Anonymous #6 12w

Anecdotes do not apartheid make. Show me a discriminatory law, show me a Jews only bathroom. Apartheid is a legal regime not a feeling of oppression.

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Anonymous #4 12w

There are many areas in the West Bank that literally are Jews only. Watch Louis Theroux's documentaries on Israel.

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Anonymous #4 12w

Yeah now do the several million Palestinians in the West Bank (which Israel controls) who get their houses burnt down, their wives and daughters raped, their families beaten and killed by Israeli settlers, who are protected by the IDF. Even better, what about the 2.5m Gazans who have been living in an Israeli prison camp for the last 30 years? The entire Palestinian population of Israel / Palestine lives under some level of Israeli control, the large majority of them have effectively no rights

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Anonymous #6 11w

Those are not legal regimes (to the extent that they are real at all.) groups of individuals doing bad things does not apartheid make. By the same note there are many areas in the same West Bank where the Israeli government actually does forbid Jews from living. And forget about Gaza, a Jew who tried to live there before Oct 7 would have been killed.

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Anonymous #4 11w

Unlike the Palestinians, none of whom have been killed. Oh wait.

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Anonymous #6 11w

Killed during a war because they were in a war zone and terrorists were using them as human shields is not the same as killed for being Jewish. That’s like saying “the holocaust was evil.” And someone responds “not like any German civilians were killed… oh wait.” It’s not an argument, as a matter of fact it’s either evidence that you don’t actually know what you’re talking about, or are intentionally distorting the facts to justify a narrative.

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Anonymous #4 11w

The IDF has systematically leveled Gaza and is machine gunning civilians lining up to try to get humanitarian aid. You're completely delusional if you think this has anything to do with Hamas anymore.

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Anonymous #4 11w

Israel has been systemically targeting Gazan civilians since Oct 7th. The low end of civilian casualties is around 70,000 and that number ignores the thousands of bodies under rubble, the bodies destroyed by explosives, anyone buried without being brought to a hospital etc. There are nearly 200,000 “missing” people. This week Haaretz exposed the IDF explicitly giving orders to shoot at civilians waiting at Israeli aid distribution sites.

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Anonymous #6 11w

The IDF has systematically leveled the parts of Gaza where almost every house is rigged to blow and or has a tunnel entrance within it. And while there have been awful incidents where civilians are fired on it is mostly because 1. Hamas routinely dress as civilians to carry out attacks. And 2. Many of the supposed “IDF targets civilians.” Incidents have turned out to be hamas gunmen attacking the civilians who are trying to break out of their aid stranglehold.

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Anonymous #6 11w

If Israel was interested in killing civilians there would be a whole lot more dead civilians and a whole lot less dead IDF soldiers. They could just sit at standoff range and pound everything that moved into dust. Look into the actual military reports from the ground, look at the actual assessments of battlefield casualty ratios. It has everything to do with HAMAS. They could end this war tomorrow.

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Anonymous #4 11w

They’re leveled 90%+ of Gaza… when the IDF cleared areas of Hamas, they proceeded to burn down all the buildings. You are the terrorist. You’re a terrorist sympathizer. Israel should fight its own wars instead of hiding behind America .

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Anonymous #4 11w

The actual assessments of casualty ratios show the IDF targets civilians… the numbers the IDF claims are several times lower than the actual statistics. Hamas agreed to Israel’s terms over a fucking year ago only for Netanyahu to alter the deal last minute (because he needs the war to go on forever).

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Anonymous #4 11w

I have a genuine question how come every single country except Russia and North Korea, the Us government, cause no normal us citizen supports this, are saying Israel is committing genocide. That’s more than the 6 billion people disagree with you. Why would they lie?

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Anonymous #2 11w

The countries in the Middle East hate them for being Jewish. The rest of the world it’s a combination of bandwagoning and pointing fingers to distract from their own behavior. Question, how many people have been ethnically cleansed in Sudan while this whole thing was going down? How many Muslims does China have in actual concentration camps at this moment? What about the Sahel region as a whole? What about South Africa? DRC? Israel is a convenient scapegoat.

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Anonymous #4 11w

Counter question. Do you really think Israel is the worst human rights abuser in the world? Because they have more UN condemnations against them than any other country in the world. Including Russia which is currently invading Ukraine, including China who currently is holding 1.2 million people in camps and practicing forced organ “donation.”

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Anonymous #4 11w

Are my tax dollars funding those things? No. Also way to tell on yourself, there’s no genocide in South Africa, that’s a far right conspiracy. What is true however is that for decades Israel illegally sold arms to the Apartheid government in South Africa. The countries in the Middle East hate them because of the Nakba. Hence why Jewish people lived mostly without issue throughout the region until then.

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Anonymous #7 11w

I will now meet you with the exact same amount of intellectual engagement and logic as you have met me #7. You’re completely wrong, your moral compass is 180 degrees off and you are listening to blatant propaganda pumped out by a genocidal terrorist state who has done far more harm to the population of Gaza than Israel ever has.

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Anonymous #4 11w

Israel is the only one being funded and propped up by the US government (which effectively rules the world). It’s funny that you can’t actually argue against any of Israel’s well documented crimes, you can only play whataboutism and make accusations of antisemitism as if you aren’t insanely antisemitic for equating Jewishness and Judaism with mass murder.

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Anonymous #4 11w

You’re a fascist monster. You can literally read Haaretz and come to the same conclusions as I have. Is the longest running Israeli newspaper “propaganda pumped out by a genocidal terrorist state”. You’re the one that thinks you’re racially superior to millions of people.

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Anonymous #5 11w

I read this somewhere; “America does not have friends, it has interests.” It really stuck with me. I think this could be applied to who we form alliances with. Being said, it begs the question of why Israel over a country like Canada? I think it’s unfortunate that the US hasn’t united the Americas (Mexico and Canada) like the EU. We’d truly be unstoppable and have the best economies in the world.

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