
The problem with “compromise” over party lines right now is that one of our major parties has become a modern fascist party. Like I think it’s perfectly reasonable to not want to compromise with racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc. If the Republican Party wasn’t so focused on these culture war topics I’d have no issue. (Personally I think right economic policy is often not good for the country, but that’s an opinion)
Listen, I get it. But it’s hard to try to work with someone who would kill me for dating a man if they got the chance. Especially if it’s your own family. In countries where the arguments are on how to do taxes and roads, I think we can remove parties. We are talking about letting facists be our trusted allies, there has to be more though
See, the issues is that politics is a very general statement. So, sure, we can compromise about military spending, or slowly increasing Medicaid. I don’t love it, it that’s the nature of a compromise. But I’m not compromising on my rights, or the rights of others. You don’t negotiate who the guy who wouldn’t give a shit if you died. I recognize your good intentions in posing this, and I’m not trying to be an ass, I promise. I’ve just seen this sentiment so damn often from people who aren’t
If only people could get over themselves and realize that the only way to actually be productive is to work together. I could be wrong, but I feel like the right is often good in an economic sense, while the left focuses on the humanitarian aspect. I like the idea behind both ideologies, but they often fail when kept separate
Not to take away from your experience, but I think a majority of the Republican Party couldn’t care less about race and sexuality. Personally (not that I align with any party), I think people should be judged by their character and nothing else. It just so happens that the loud (and wrong) minority happen to be in power, unfortunately. Maybe once Trump is no longer in office we can work towards becoming more united again
I understand where you’re coming from, but have you ever had a genuine conversation with someone on the right? And I’m not talking about the extremists because those people are crazy. Just like a normal person that happens to follow a more conservative ideology. I truly believe that media has played a huge role in dividing the country because the vast majority of conservatives (not MAGA) do not care about anything other than someone’s character. Maybe I’m just an optimist
Yes I have. I live in one of the most red states, and go to one of the most republican colleges in the country. Near universally, it comes down to hating things changing. Misplaced anger at their lives getting worse. Anger placed on me And people who do nothing wrong Anger that turns to hate. A “justified righteous fervor”
And I’m sorry if my first reply sounded like I was dismissing your concerns and experiences. That was not my intention in the slightest. While I don’t think it’s fair to make a generalization about everyone within a political party, it does make it hard not to when the minority of extremists are the loudest ones and also the ones causing the most issues.
I get it But it’s hard to see people who genuinely believe that knowing and learning more is not a good thing. Those people tend to follow more authoritarian policies in their home and in politics. Hard to see eye to eye with someone who at every step of the way disagrees with basic principles of respecting other humans.
Now, are there conservatives who arent like that? Yeah of course. But it’s not a vocal minority that’s the problem, it’s the majority who don’t try to stifle it at all. If you support someone who does something bad And defend them from the consequences of the bad thing You are also at fault, I assume that’s a fair opinion.
That’s fair. I know it’s a bit of an optimistic stretch, but I hope that once the current administration is no longer in power, things will start to calm down. I hate watching people fight and hurt each other just because of a difference in political beliefs. Both sides do it, and I think it’s awful. That’s kind of where my original post came from
After America’s civil war, the US didn’t see to it that the south had to remove their racist operations That’s where most police forces come from After WWII the world didn’t hunt down Nazis I think the only way we can go back to normal is to purge the supporters Otherwise this all will just happen again, that is if we survive this in the first place
I know that some people will say that it’s not just a difference in political beliefs, but a difference in morals, but I don’t think that’s necessarily true. While in some cases, it may be. In others, I think it is a case of misunderstanding that has severely been blown out of proportion. The problem is, no one wants to really sit down, discuss, and defend their opinions without becoming nasty. It’s really sad
Have you tired? You can’t logic someone out of something they didn’t logic themselves into. It’s emotion that fears challenge. There is no other way to explain it other than a different way of thinking reality works. How do you try to talk to someone eho thinks your very existence should be erased from history?
I’m so sorry, but could you elaborate just a little bit on what you mean by “someone who thinks your very existence should be erased from history”? I’m not trying to be dense or anything. I genuinely want to understand what other people are going through so that I can take it into account when forming opinions. I only have my own life experience, which vastly differs from other people’s
Could you explain to me by what you mean about compromising rights? And the exact rights that would be compromised. I’m not trying to be dumb, nor nitpick. It’s only that I haven’t experienced compromised rights yet for myself, and I dislike watching the news because of how hateful it is. I just genuinely want to hear about other people’s experiences because how am I ever going to learn anything if I only go off my own experiences
Abortion, veterans and disability, right to vote is being made harder for married women, obvious racism, homophobia, transphobia, continued support for active genocide, etc. etc. Compromising on my rights means, essentially, losing part of them. And I rather like my right. For example, I do not want to compromise on abortion. I think that’s unethical. I do not want to compromise on access to birth control. Freedom means freedom for everyone.
Ok I am an atheist who has been actually threatened with firearms for interacting with children trying to answer questions unrelated to my beliefs. After doing so their parents pulled me aside and told me that I had to “get out of here, devil worshiper” Cops didn’t care. I also am dating a trans man. A man who has been harassed, threatened, and hurt by people that later claimed it was god telling them that it wasn’t ok. These are the same people pushing bills to prevent same sex marriage.
Oh, that’s terrible. I’m so sorry that you’ve had to go through that. And I’m so mad that those people are claiming to be Christian. Personally, I am Christian, but I work to be loving towards everyone. I couldn’t care less about what people do in their own time, as long as they aren’t hurting themselves or others. Anyone that is passing judgement on you or anyone you love should not be able to call themself a follower of Christ. No one has any right to judge anyone else based on how they live