Anonymous #1 1w

Violence finds its start in ideologies. Inherently, white supremacist ideologies, like the ones Charlie Kirk spouted, are violent and have worked to harm multiple groups of marginalized people. At the very least what happened to him was fair. The world is better now that he’s gone.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Mind you only one side is okay with taking rights away from multiple groups of people, and that’s not the left. Have fun coping, your buddies still dead fn

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His ideology DID hurt people. His actions DID hurt people. His rhetoric DID hurt people. Your refusal to come to terms with that doesn’t make it any less true. He condoned gun violence and school shootings under an unregulated 2nd amendment. He was only a victim of a reality that he helped encourage.

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I would be dead if you killed me in front of my family, furthermore, I’m not the one out in public shouting hateful rhetoric from the rooftops for anyone who isn’t a straight white conservative Christian male. Fuck outta here with your Nazi loving bullshit. You would’ve held a vigil for hitler with this fuckass argument

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I’m not condoning gun violence. I’m saying idgaf that Charlie Kirk died, because I don’t. He himself said that he doesn’t believe in empathy. I do not care that he was a victim of a really he encouraged.

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Not having empathy for a Nazi ≠ being as bad as a Nazi. I don’t like Nazis at all, why should I? By not being a Nazi I’m automatically better than him.

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The Nazis killed people they didn’t like due to race babe. Under the same ideology that Charlie Kirk spouted. Please be fucking for real. Did you forget about the genocide if Jewish people hello?

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It wasn’t a “disagreement” it was characteristics. They didn’t agree with people being born Jews…because the ideal type of human being in their eyes was “Aryan” that has nothing to do with ideals and everything to do with race. That’s what genocide means buddy.

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Right…but the main motivation behind Holocaust was killing Jews for being…Jews. Like what aren’t you understanding?

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I’m not defending Nazis bruh. I’m saying they killed Jews for being Jewish. Which is true lmfao. And Charlie Kirk held ideas similar to if not the same as Nazis. Not a hard connection to make

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I never said that. I said idgaf that he died. He had no sympathy for those children that died in school shootings and I have no sympathy for him. Besides, he said himself that he doesn’t believe in empathy. Why should I have any for him?

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Y’all really would tell slaves to be kind to their masters. Y’all really would hold a vigil for hitler

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I don’t have empathy for HIM specifically. Again and again I’ve told you this. He is a victim of his own rhetoric, he himself said that shooting deaths were necessary under an unregulated 2nd amendment that he wanted to keep.

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No because I believe in a regulated 2nd amendment and that gun deaths aren’t necessary lmfao what aren’t you understanding? My rhetoric is that the 2nd amendment should be regulated to prevent mass shootings. If I was shot then I’d just be a statistic, not a victim of my rhetoric. Y’all are brain dead as hell.

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Again, I’m not upset that he died. It was poetic justice and at the very least it was fair to himself. I won’t be upset for someone who wasn’t upset when anyone else died, was unempathetic about Gaza and has always been racist and sexist. Good riddance.

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We are not the same. Would you ask the slave to feel for the slave master? His voice was oppressive to anyone who wasn’t exactly like him, his words were weapons that have harmed real living people. Now that he’s gone he can’t do that anymore. Again this is exactly like telling Jewish people to feel sorry for the death of Hitler because he was a human…which is debatable when you throw your humanity away to serve white supremacy.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Ok op I have a question. You feel like this shooting was justified, what about shooting someone like me? I agree with Charlie Kirk on probably around 70% of what he said and the areas where we disagree are definitely not areas where I agree with you. Should I be shot too?

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Anonymous #1 1w

I don’t really care about you since you’re nobody. Have your shit ass opinions idgaf, when you make a platform solely to spread hate and oppression and it comes back and pops you in the ass then maybe it’s fair.

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Except for he was somebody. Who had a large platform and was famous for it. You can’t claim he’s nobody and then the president order flags to be at half mast for him lmfao. His voice and rhetoric spread because of his large platform. Fuck outta here idiot.

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I really don’t care if someone shoots and kills me honestly, yall never cared about gun violence before. At the very least, I would be another victim in the books to use to advocate for gun control (something Charlie Kirk advocated against btw)

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It doesn’t really matter what I do or don’t deserve if what I’m trying to say. Nor does it matter what charlie Kirk did or didn’t deserve. He died behind his belief in the same way he condoned other people dying. It’s FAIR regardless of being deserved or not.

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Anonymous OP 1w

So I can have my opinion, but if I share that opinion with enough people I deserve to be killed?

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Anonymous #1 1w

Lowk yeah. If your opinion is one of oppression and violence against oppressed people why would you deserve to live?

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How is it fair? All I said is I don’t mourn the death of a Nazi and it’s fair that he died behind the very actions he condoned to begin with lmfao. He said gun deaths were justified and then he died because of a gun like… he literally advocated for no gun control and then an out of control person with a gun killed him. He’s a victim of his own encouraged reality.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Because holding an opinion doesn’t justify murder? It’s not very difficult to understand. But riddle me this, if you say violence in the present is justified by someone espousing a belief that might lead to violence in the future. Wouldn’t I now be justified in using violence against you? Since you believe that it would be okay to kill me for what I believe?

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Anonymous #1 1w

Holding harmful opinions that are used to oppress entire groups of people actually does justify death unfortunately. The belief that revolution can happen without violence is propaganda at best.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Also his opinions caused violence to happen in the present, towards Gazans (innocents btw), towards children of school shootings, towards minority groups. But you don’t care about those groups of people because you don’t even see them as human. Fuck off cocksucker and go find Charlie bitchass.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Me saying fuck that nigga does nothing. Him telling people gun deaths are excusable does cause harm. Fuck you you fucking Nazi. You agree with him and that’s why you’re riding so hard for his dead ass.

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Anonymous OP 1w

You’re using the word “Nazi” as a slur, while advocating an ideology which would justify the deaths of far more people than Nazism ever did. I don’t know what to do for you besides pray, but please express these exact thoughts to a psychiatrist. Like, just show them this conversation and tell them “this is what I believe.”

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Anonymous #1 1w

I’m not using Nazi as a slur, I’m calling you what you are lmfao. Walk like a Nazi, talk like a Nazi, defend a Nazi…you might be a Nazi.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Don’t pray for me either. I don’t believe in ts. And if you and Charlie Kirk believe in the same god and that’s who you’re praying too, keep it to yourself cocksucker.

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I said his death was fair. And it is.

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It’s fair to die the same way you condoned other people dying.

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It’s not about disliking what I say. I didn’t just dislike what Charlie had to say his words ACTUALLY HURT PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE MY GOD GET A GRIP.

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Define Nazi.

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And don’t you see the irony in saying that I’m Charlie Kirk, a Nazi lmfao…you called him a Nazi yourself stupid ass bitch

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Again, I said I don’t feel bad for him dying and why should I? He never extended that same empathy to literally anyone else, including groups im a part of. His ideologies directly impact the way people like me get to traverse the world. Idgaf that that sorry ass, evil ass, lame ass nigga died. Good fucking riddance.

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What have I said that is racist, show me one thing.

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Anonymous OP 1w

All you’re doing is proving you know NOTHING about the real Nazis. Once again, you’re letting politics become a mental illness that’s allowing you to justify murder. I will pray you step back from all this one day.

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He’s calling people Nazis while advocating genocide. Calling people racist while using the N word. And calling for violence against people because they “will create violence.” All that is to say I believe we are speaking with a genuine crazy person, I think all we can do for OP is pray.

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Mind you I’m black lmfao

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Anonymous #1 1w

Again, Charlie Kirk’s words don’t create violence as in future tense. They ARE violent. It’s like saying Stalin should’ve gotten to stay lmfao.

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Anonymous #1 1w

All you need to do fr is stfu fr and get into them damn history books.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Reiterating that you are mentally ill won’t help anyone here. Once again, show these texts to a mental health professional. Tell them “this is what I believe.” Other than that I can do nothing for you but pray.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Again no need to pray. Seek education. That would be more useful to your time.

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First of all, what did the Palestinians have to do with he Holocaust lmfao. Also Charlie Kirk was a victim of a reality he encouraged to exist. Idgaf that he died. He wouldn’t even care that he died.

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Actually Charlie Kirk is the one who encouraged the environment in which guns are handed to people completely unregulated, not me. I’m just saying what he got was at the very least fair.

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And nobody would care if I got shot. The same way no one ever cares when a black person gets killed. The same way no one ever cares when children die in school shootings. Charlie Kirk wasn’t special. He got got and got what was FAIR

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I actually said I don’t care that he died lmfao not that shooting happen. Theres a distinct and large difference in those statements. I care about and detest gun violence but I am not sad that Charlie Kirk was a victim to it (mind you he said gun deaths were “unfortunately necessary”)

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Any of those children who died due to school shootings could have been anywhere on the political spectrum and I still mourn them. But being empathetic in this case means standing firm that what happened to Charlie Kirk was fair. He excused the deaths of people who died the same way he did but worse, I think he’ll be fine. Besides he can’t even comment on it now.

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Again not true. Idgaf that Charlie Kirk died and that’s the extent of it. His death was ironic bc he advocated for an unregulated 2nd amendment. Hes a victim of his own encouraged reality and that is ENTIRELY his fault. Like, entirely

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I’d like to clarify that if Charlie Kirk had died due to a brain aneurysm I would’ve been okay with it. It had nothing to do with him being shot, however ironic and poetic it was.

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Right there with Charlie Kirk I guess. Also, he forfeited his humanity when he subscribed to white supremacist ideology.

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Mind you I never wished death on him. The worst thing I said was that it was fair, which it objectively was. And I also said idgaf that he died, he would have extended me the same sympathy

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Being okay with a Nazi being dead ≠ being as bad as him. It’s literally the equivalent of calling a Jewish person a bad person because they feel okay with Hitler being dead.

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Explain to me how I’m a Nazi bc idc that one person (who was legitimately a bad person) dies? Define nazism.

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Correction, I am okay with Charlie Kirk being dead. Not people as in plural. You keep having to twist my words to make a point and it’s still not working lmfao. Nazism are the political principles of the National Socialist German Workers Party. Characterized by white supremacy, antisemitism, and scientific racism amount together things. All ideologically aligned with Charlie Kirk.

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The party isn’t active but Nazism isn’t just a party it’s an IDEOLOGY. Which he shared with Nazis. He is a modern day Nazi. Sorry I mean *was.

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And the difference between Charlie Kirk and I is that me not caring about his death has dead no effect on anyone. His words however, and his rhetoric do harm other people as well as his IDEOLOGIES.

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If you can’t even agree to that then just admit that you too are a Nazi and agree with everything he stood for.

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I actually did know they killed more people than Jews. Hitler was also known to eliminate political opponents. What you missed is that I was being hyper specific when I used holocaust. You were being broad.

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He’s a Nazi because his IDEOLOGIES align with NAZISM. Also an IDEOLOGY.

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And you’re right I should’ve been more specific. He’s actually a neo-Nazi

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Mind you I gave a perfect response you just don’t like that you were proven wrong.

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Go get an education and a backbone stupid ass cunt.

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Nazism isn’t just about being antisemitic. But he has made multiple antisemitic remarks in the past lmfao.

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I said it is an important part but isn’t just about being antisemitic. Those aren’t contradictory or untrue what lmfao??

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No he’s just a Nazi.

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Right so neo-Nazi is someone who relates to Nazism…and antisemitism isn’t THE defining characteristic of Nazism. It’s an important part and a characteristic but so is white supremacy and scientific racism. He’s partaken in all three characteristics. Any way you slice it he’s a neo-Nazi.

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