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i believe you can be friends with someone if you disagree about politics. i voted for kamala but have friends who voted for trump. it is not reason enough for me to cut them off completely. im receiving backlash for not ending those friendships. AITA?
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Anonymous 4d

I mean it’s up to you. There came a point where it wasn’t just a difference of opinion for me - it was a difference of morals. And I couldn’t stay friends with someone who supported policies that directly harmed me and my loved ones.

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Anonymous 4d

I used to think it’s mature to be friends with ppl of opposing views. Then it turned out the ppl in question were literally fighting against mine and others’ human rights and I don’t know what kind of friend would do that.

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Anonymous 4d

Just because you think their political views don’t affect you directly (they do, in fact) isn’t a good enough reason to be that person’s friend imo. I certainly cut those people off in my life and I’d do it 100 times over. It’s not extremist to not be friends with people who want entire other groups of people to stop existing for something they can’t change.

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Anonymous 4d

I agree with all the people saying extremism is bad. It’s exactly why I can’t be friends with Trump supporters — they are extremist

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Anonymous 5d

Obviously NTA. Only extremists are unable to be friends with people of the opposing party

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Anonymous 4d

NTA, just a white man probably who wasn’t gonna lose anything in the first place, probably. I can’t be friends with anyone who voted to harm others. I can’t be friends with anyone who voted against my entire existence. The dead woman in GA who was used as an incubator and then taken off life support when the baby was born (with extreme issues , because his mother was dead) — do you think that family has friends who voted for Trump? do you think they keep people around who voted for that?

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Anonymous 4d

personally no if you voted for someone that is trying to take my rights away and is deporting my family members then no fuck you we aren’t friends

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Anonymous 4d

This seems like a straight cis white man wrote it

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Anonymous 4d

Nta. I also have family friends who voted against Harris. To be fair I felt betrayed and still do. Especially having to fear what will happen. But I know one of them regrets what they did and acknowledge it. If he had a choice I know he would vote differently now. And him acknowledging it is what makes it better for me.

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Anonymous 4d

If they voted for trump and stand behind that decision still… yeah yta a little bit. The only real trump supporters I’m in contact with are my family and I love them but I don’t like them as people. I can be friends with non maga republicans and many other opposing beliefs, but trump supporters specifically I can’t be friends with. Morals and values are just so extremely different and it actively harms me.

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Anonymous 4d

My best friend voted for trump and ever since then it's started to become apparent how goddamn stupid she is and honestly I have always hated stupid people and idk if I want to be friends with her

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Anonymous 4d

On paper it could be ok, but I find it leaves a sick taste in my mouth when I think about how I would be supporting people who hate my existence

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Anonymous 4d

you are the company you keep. remember that. the trump party is filled with literal nazis and your friends voted for them. to me this is a “i feel guilty and need reassurance” post where you want people to say “youre nta” but you are. youre an asshole. not saying you HAVE to cut off your friends but you are the company you keep.

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Anonymous 4d

I think it really depends- it used to be good to be friends with different viewpoints (dem vs rep) but I think maga supporters are different. The violence and such needs to be addressed and some things aren’t a matter of politics but basic human decency.

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Anonymous 4d

Nta. Totally agree. Extremism is bad

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Anonymous 4d

The political scene has changed so much in the last 8 years. It used to be normal to be friends with people of different political views because the most extreme conservative view was just lowering taxes on the rich and maybe cutting some programs that help people to make themselves wealthier. Now, the party is extreme. We have built 2 concentration camps, millions of people are going without medicaid and even more are going hungry. The conservatives have just given the secret, faceless police

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Anonymous 5d

Nta

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Anonymous 4d

i have friends that voted for them but i don’t respect them, because im black and im know they don’t even see my as an equal

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Anonymous 4d

when you support a racist bigot it’s not about politics it’s about morals. and i’m human enough i cannot be friends with anyone who voted for somebody that hates me and other minorities. or somebody filled with hate for anybody. that’s a huge reason to cut them off. and i don’t get why people don’t see that.

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Anonymous 4d

You’re the asshole. How can you be cool with people who are okay with voting someone that is actively ripping apart families? What is wrong with you? That’s my opinion. You asked and I answered.

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Anonymous 4d

and OP — if you are truly okay with being friends with people who directly voted for these policies that are going to kill people (people are going to die as a direct result of this presidency, at home and abroad. there is no way to fucking sugar coat that) then you absolutely do not stand for your so called “beliefs”

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Anonymous 4d

People who can’t put political differences aside to be friends with or at least get along with others are so immature.

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Anonymous 4d

Anyone who still supports trump at this point is a full on nazi. They’re literally calling it alligator auschwitz

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Anonymous 4d

word up

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Anonymous 4d

You’re not a bad person, but you’re less of a person because you don’t have a spine. You can’t back up your morals so

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Anonymous 4d

I agree. Sorry in advance for the notifications. This will be a multi-part comment. I know this will get downvoted, but it seems obvious to me, given the provided choice. Do I want to increase the chances of fueling an endless tug-of-war against the moral opposition and continue spiraling into division? Or do I want to increase the chances of influencing the minds of people and, by extension, influencing policy to achieve progress?

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Anonymous 4d

NOT THE ASSHOLE!!!! My dad’s LIFELONG best friend has very different political views! They tend to make the better friends anyway bc if you need one they will reality check you or atleast give you a different perspective!!

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Anonymous 2d

#43, You realize the stance of a few does not represent the stance of all. I can’t reply to the original thread bc #6’s feelings got hurt and blocked me

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Anonymous 2d

Nta

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Anonymous 4d

NTA

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Anonymous 4d

NTA - I am conservative and have liberal friends. If your friendship is so shallow to end it for politics then it wasn’t a real friendship.

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Anonymous 4d

Nta and tbh it’s weird people care so deeply about your own personal relationships

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Anonymous 4d

Thank you so much for this. As someone from the opposite version but same situation, I completely agree.

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Anonymous 4d

Receiving backlash from who exactly? Yik yak? I feel like no one cares enough to say you shouldn’t be friends with them

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4d

Most of the time opposing parties agree on human rights issues. But there are often times when we as society can’t agree on what should be a human right, and if you are able to understand that — then you can try to convince them to change and agree with you rather than cutting them off allowing their ideas to perpetuate.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 4d

This.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4d

Em ơi

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 4d

if you can’t admit that after they’ve raided the capitol, elected a felon, and supported project 2025 — you either quietly align, or are just straight up dumb.

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Anonymous 4d

unfortunately #11 i am not down to argue about something we all watched unfold on national television.

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Anonymous 4d

again #11. go argue elsewhere. you aren’t getting it out of me.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 4d

oh and this “population decline” is a direct result of women having access to contraceptives and being able to CHOOSE whether or not they have children, because many of us don’t want them or can’t afford them. having a choice over your life and body is a good thing. make childcare and life more affordable and maybe you’ll see people DESIRE to have children again. but it is indeed a good thing that unwanted children aren’t being born.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 4d

did not mean to reply to you, this was supposed to go under mine 😭

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Anonymous 4d

no YOURE the problem. troll.

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Anonymous 4d

it’s just kinda telling you know which party is the one that wants to take away human rights without #4 having to mention which side they’re on. and yet you still deny it’s happening. curious…

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Anonymous 4d

Well, no, but if women and trans people having rights scares you so much… ❄️ ❄️

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Anonymous 4d

bro get a job ur commenting back to every comment 🤣🤣🤣

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Anonymous replying to -> mother_russia 4d

Obviously I give them a chance to explain and I then explain why it’s actively a harmful thing, but if it’s not a view they are willing to change after understanding the truth of how their actions and views harm people, I just can’t stand by them. I’m not looking to surround myself with people who value profit and greed over the well-being of others.

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Anonymous replying to -> mother_russia 4d

And to be clear I don’t identify with any political party but I definitely agree much more with democratic principles

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Anonymous 4d

A great many women, poor people, and minorities would disagree with you about not harming others

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 4d

(Whoever’s downvoting me I’m not trying to be rude, I just genuinely can’t imagine who would say not to be friends)

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 4d

People chronically online say stuff like that. You're right, nobody in real life cares.

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 4d

Nope you are!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4d

There’s nothing “extremist” about not wanting to be friends with people who support fundamental ideas that you disagree with? Just say you don’t have a firm stance on your own opinions/beliefs to begin with and don’t mind compromising on some of them.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4d

Hey! In my real life off the internet I absolutely do care. Hope this helps!

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 4d

Ur brain dead actually if u think that by supporting Trump that means you think blacks are subhuman

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 4d

I would look in the mirror. Do you just regurgitate everything the propaganda machine tells you? Are your beliefs informed entirely by the leftist media or your own personal experiences? (Lefties and righties both suffer from this) the majority of people are just mindlessly hating the other side without truly understanding why. Just believing what the propaganda machine wants you too. You in fact may be the stupid one.

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Anonymous replying to -> #18 4d

Maybe he said that just so u wouldn’t hate him

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Anonymous replying to -> mother_russia 4d

Why is it a “harmful thing” I’d argue setting the precedent of handing a nominee the presidential bid without having been elected by the people through primaries would’ve been far more consequential than anything Trump is doing

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 4d

I was raised in a household with people on both sides of the political spectrum as well as half religious/half not. I was also born naturally very smart. This gravitated me to learn truths behind things. Therefore, I am atheist, and I am leftist. I have fully researched everything about the right. I've doubted myself, I've thought "maybe they have a point, maybe I'm the crazy one". Which cannot be said for trump supporters. They do not think that way.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 4d

Your family members are illegal immigrants? Smh

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 4d

They were literally misdemeanors that they elevated to felonies. Wouldn’t have happened to anyone else. Can you not fathom that maybe a far left DA from New York might’ve had intentions other than justice?

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 4d

I also had incredibly smart parents to which I inherited extreme amount of common sense, and my ability to question. Most of America is uneducated, not just academically but in total. Like completely lacking critical thinking skills. I am lucky in the ways that I am able to stay open minded, but at some point, the open mind closes. And it has. I do not, and will never support a trump lover. It's frankly concerning and weird. Those same people tend to correlate with low intelligence.

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 4d

Just cutting off the other side instead of hearing them out and trying to find common ground is exactly how we ended up where we are today. You can’t run as a center-aisle politician cuz the media machine only profits from rage bait on both sides. But sure, I’m the problem not people who aren’t friends with ppl over who is president🤣🤣 like you have even noticed a difference in your day to day life

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4d

“Human rights” when modern day style abortions are less than 100 years old. You should do some research on the founder of planned parenthood. Known racist and supporter of eugenics. Not a coincidence most unborn babies happen to be black….just saying

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 4d

The DEI office in my work building has been removed and everyone has been fired. My 401k took a dramatic hit. My fucking housekeeper was detained for two weeks yet she is an American citizen. Everyone has decided to be both racist and homophobic OPENLY these days. Men joke about assaulting women more frequently online than ever. Inflation is causing my company to lose clients, which then lays off employees. Just to name a few things that are directly around me.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 4d

Well it's not a coincidence. It is fact that black families tend to be the poorest in America. So those women get more abortions because they cannot afford children. It's not "eugenics". Stop being an idiot and use your brain

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 4d

yes i actually HAVE noticed a difference! one of my closest friends is currently being detained by ice. idk if i’m ever gonna see her again. another friend of mine had to drive 15 hours to get an abortion. you’re an idiot if you think this country hasn’t changed since orange hitler took office.

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 4d

and irl it matters more?? like you know who would actually stand with you if shit hit the fan and who would let you rot

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 4d

“The first recorded evidence of induced abortion is from the Egyptian Ebers Papyrus in 1550 BCE.” (Wikipedia)

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Anonymous replying to -> #32 4d

that run around a kidnap people a 29.9 BILLION dollar increase. It’s just blatant nazism. If you support that or even tolerate it YTA

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 4d

statistically white women get more abortions in the US because they are able to access them more efficiently. black women may be more likely to live somewhere without access, or they can’t take off work, or they simply choose to not have abortions. if anything, an abortion ban is about wanting more white babies to be born.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 4d

“Blacks” brother come on now

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 4d

Most if not all of my black friends voted for trump

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4d

Statistically 90% of black women voted for Kamala and 80% of black men so idk what ur on about💀

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Anonymous replying to -> #33 4d

If I truly care how my loved ones are affected, then results are my goal. Standing on moral principle for the inherent value of those morals, at the expense of achieving pragmatic ethical policy is harmful and empty. My loved ones are impacted by results and policy, not by allegiance to ideals. Barring immediate physical danger and other outliers, cutting off people who disagree with me, whether over morals or other differences, increases the risk of broader harm and undermines social progress.

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Anonymous replying to -> #33 4d

Exclusion is a superficial position of moral purity that risks practical harm. Excluding people increases the risk of insulating them further into their beliefs and breeding resentment. It increases the risk of fostering fellowship among like-minded opponents, strengthening their cohesion, and pulling them further from positive influence. It promotes division on our side, and contributes to a vicious, self-perpetuating cycle of polarization conducive to gridlock and antithetical to progress.

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Anonymous replying to -> #33 4d

Regardless of my morals, these factors will shape our society and world through cultural shifts, class consciousness, partisan divides, and the polarization of values. Ultimately, those factors, our society, and our world are shaped by us. And like it or not, “us” includes the people we disagree with, even on a vehement moral level. I’m actively hurting myself and those I love if I contribute to the us-vs-them mentality and class infighting promoted by people profiting from dividing our society.

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Anonymous replying to -> #33 4d

I refuse to be complacent in moral outrage without offering solutions. I believe in trying to escape the gridlock and the endless cycle. I believe solidarity represents a practical chance to achieve consistent improvement. I refuse to dismiss cooperation with other human beings, who are being manipulated more than they are malicious. I reject the notion that I must compromise my values to show compassion to my opponents. And I refuse to abandon my compassion for anyone.

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 4d

I’m sorry but…you would tell 2 people in real life to not be friends bc they have different political beliefs? How exactly does their friendship affect you?

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 4d

Yes of course everyone is entitled to who they want to be friends with… the person who posted this says they are receiving backlash for not ending the friendships. The point is if the people in the friendship are happy who gives a fuck what “backlash” you receive from other people…

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 4d

You’re asking for special privileges and proceeding to call them rights

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 4d

And people always say “having rights” like it ends the arguments full stop. What rights specifically? Why? Someone could try to make an argument for the right to murder, property damage, etc., and that would be a right, but I think we can agree it’s a right we shouldn’t have. It’s such an avoid-all-intellectual-discussion argument.

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 4d

If you mean natural rights, there’s really no argument to be made that most of the so-called rights leftists discuss are natural rights.

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 4d

gay people being allowed to marry is so far from murder. You know that. Leave the strawman in the field for once.

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Anonymous replying to -> #38 4d

You ask like politics is just some silly little word- if my friends genuinely believe that immigrants are paying taxes and receiving government services, I'm dropping them. For being stubborn and stupid. If my friends believe that abortions should be banned from mothers who will die without them, they are not my friend. If my friends really think that Christianity and Trumps policies to hand in hand, I'm going to let them scurry away to the cult their parents taught them to be in.

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Anonymous replying to -> #38 4d

Those aren't friends. Those are disgusting humans. I said what I said

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 4d

You’re literally insane. I come from a family of Asian immigrants and everything you’ve said is beyond wild. Seek help and stop assuming everyone’s beliefs etc based off of one factor

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 4d

It depends what topics. I don’t agree with everything Trump believes, I don’t agree with everything Kamala believes. However, I aligned with Trump more (or at least the conservative mindset when it comes to the economy) Every major metropolitan city is a shithole for the most part and every single one is ran by liberal policies, so I just don’t think it would be good to have those same policies govern our country

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Anonymous replying to -> #42 4d

Ok I’ve only read THIS ONE THING 42 said and I kinda agree. There’s things you can agree/disagree with on both sides but what matters to you changes over time. Rn they are more concerned with economic stuff and that’s ok. Based on this one thing bc I’m not reading the whole thread

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 4d

No one’s trying to take away gay marriage

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 4d

AERRRRRH WRONG the GOP’s own written stances (since at least 2020!) literally say that marriage should be defined as only between a woman and a man

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 4d

By taking away protections for gay marriage they are. Now it’s more up to states for “issues”like that meaning they can AND WILL take away rights.

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 3d

It’s not an unintelligent talking point you just aren’t educated. They typically are referring to civil rights, which are amended to the constitution. However, marginalized are historically and currently often denied those rights.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 3d

It’s not someone else’s job to educate the people in their life. Cutting them off is teaching them about their views, it just requires reflection and emotional labor.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 3d

You can’t argue with facism. Engaging in the rhetoric is dangerous enough. Educating people like you is a labor not to be placed on the people already defending themselves.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 3d

The literally attacked the capitol are you even hearing yourself rn. They marched on the capitol and threatened the lives of opposing viewpoints. Open your eyes and take politics out of it- they threatened people’s goddamn lives.

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Anonymous replying to -> #35 2d

Yeah I function under I can be friends with republicans and people with other beliefs, but not trumpies or people who believe that the existence of others is worth less than others or less deserving of rights, freedoms, or help. We can have different beliefs as long as we have the same base level morals.

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