Anonymous #4 10w

Most of the time opposing parties agree on human rights issues. But there are often times when we as society can’t agree on what should be a human right, and if you are able to understand that — then you can try to convince them to change and agree with you rather than cutting them off allowing their ideas to perpetuate.

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Anonymous #6 10w

This.

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Anonymous #4 10w

Em ơi

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Anonymous #9 10w

if you can’t admit that after they’ve raided the capitol, elected a felon, and supported project 2025 — you either quietly align, or are just straight up dumb.

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unfortunately #11 i am not down to argue about something we all watched unfold on national television.

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again #11. go argue elsewhere. you aren’t getting it out of me.

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Anonymous #12 10w

oh and this “population decline” is a direct result of women having access to contraceptives and being able to CHOOSE whether or not they have children, because many of us don’t want them or can’t afford them. having a choice over your life and body is a good thing. make childcare and life more affordable and maybe you’ll see people DESIRE to have children again. but it is indeed a good thing that unwanted children aren’t being born.

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Anonymous #12 10w

did not mean to reply to you, this was supposed to go under mine 😭

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no YOURE the problem. troll.

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it’s just kinda telling you know which party is the one that wants to take away human rights without #4 having to mention which side they’re on. and yet you still deny it’s happening. curious…

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Well, no, but if women and trans people having rights scares you so much… ❄️ ❄️

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bro get a job ur commenting back to every comment 🤣🤣🤣

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Anonymous mother_russia 10w

Obviously I give them a chance to explain and I then explain why it’s actively a harmful thing, but if it’s not a view they are willing to change after understanding the truth of how their actions and views harm people, I just can’t stand by them. I’m not looking to surround myself with people who value profit and greed over the well-being of others.

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Anonymous mother_russia 10w

And to be clear I don’t identify with any political party but I definitely agree much more with democratic principles

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A great many women, poor people, and minorities would disagree with you about not harming others

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Anonymous #14 10w

(Whoever’s downvoting me I’m not trying to be rude, I just genuinely can’t imagine who would say not to be friends)

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Anonymous #14 10w

People chronically online say stuff like that. You're right, nobody in real life cares.

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Anonymous #13 10w

Nope you are!!

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Anonymous #2 10w

There’s nothing “extremist” about not wanting to be friends with people who support fundamental ideas that you disagree with? Just say you don’t have a firm stance on your own opinions/beliefs to begin with and don’t mind compromising on some of them.

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Anonymous #2 10w

Hey! In my real life off the internet I absolutely do care. Hope this helps!

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Anonymous #30 10w

Ur brain dead actually if u think that by supporting Trump that means you think blacks are subhuman

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Anonymous #19 10w

I would look in the mirror. Do you just regurgitate everything the propaganda machine tells you? Are your beliefs informed entirely by the leftist media or your own personal experiences? (Lefties and righties both suffer from this) the majority of people are just mindlessly hating the other side without truly understanding why. Just believing what the propaganda machine wants you too. You in fact may be the stupid one.

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Anonymous #18 10w

Maybe he said that just so u wouldn’t hate him

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Anonymous mother_russia 10w

Why is it a “harmful thing” I’d argue setting the precedent of handing a nominee the presidential bid without having been elected by the people through primaries would’ve been far more consequential than anything Trump is doing

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Anonymous #11 10w

I was raised in a household with people on both sides of the political spectrum as well as half religious/half not. I was also born naturally very smart. This gravitated me to learn truths behind things. Therefore, I am atheist, and I am leftist. I have fully researched everything about the right. I've doubted myself, I've thought "maybe they have a point, maybe I'm the crazy one". Which cannot be said for trump supporters. They do not think that way.

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Anonymous #10 10w

They were literally misdemeanors that they elevated to felonies. Wouldn’t have happened to anyone else. Can you not fathom that maybe a far left DA from New York might’ve had intentions other than justice?

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Anonymous #19 10w

I also had incredibly smart parents to which I inherited extreme amount of common sense, and my ability to question. Most of America is uneducated, not just academically but in total. Like completely lacking critical thinking skills. I am lucky in the ways that I am able to stay open minded, but at some point, the open mind closes. And it has. I do not, and will never support a trump lover. It's frankly concerning and weird. Those same people tend to correlate with low intelligence.

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Anonymous #13 10w

Just cutting off the other side instead of hearing them out and trying to find common ground is exactly how we ended up where we are today. You can’t run as a center-aisle politician cuz the media machine only profits from rage bait on both sides. But sure, I’m the problem not people who aren’t friends with ppl over who is president🤣🤣 like you have even noticed a difference in your day to day life

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Anonymous #4 10w

“Human rights” when modern day style abortions are less than 100 years old. You should do some research on the founder of planned parenthood. Known racist and supporter of eugenics. Not a coincidence most unborn babies happen to be black….just saying

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Anonymous #11 10w

The DEI office in my work building has been removed and everyone has been fired. My 401k took a dramatic hit. My fucking housekeeper was detained for two weeks yet she is an American citizen. Everyone has decided to be both racist and homophobic OPENLY these days. Men joke about assaulting women more frequently online than ever. Inflation is causing my company to lose clients, which then lays off employees. Just to name a few things that are directly around me.

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Anonymous #11 10w

Well it's not a coincidence. It is fact that black families tend to be the poorest in America. So those women get more abortions because they cannot afford children. It's not "eugenics". Stop being an idiot and use your brain

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Anonymous #11 10w

yes i actually HAVE noticed a difference! one of my closest friends is currently being detained by ice. idk if i’m ever gonna see her again. another friend of mine had to drive 15 hours to get an abortion. you’re an idiot if you think this country hasn’t changed since orange hitler took office.

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Anonymous #29 10w

and irl it matters more?? like you know who would actually stand with you if shit hit the fan and who would let you rot

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Anonymous #11 10w

“The first recorded evidence of induced abortion is from the Egyptian Ebers Papyrus in 1550 BCE.” (Wikipedia)

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Anonymous #32 10w

that run around a kidnap people a 29.9 BILLION dollar increase. It’s just blatant nazism. If you support that or even tolerate it YTA

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Anonymous #11 10w

statistically white women get more abortions in the US because they are able to access them more efficiently. black women may be more likely to live somewhere without access, or they can’t take off work, or they simply choose to not have abortions. if anything, an abortion ban is about wanting more white babies to be born.

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Anonymous #11 10w

“Blacks” brother come on now

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Anonymous #30 10w

Most if not all of my black friends voted for trump

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Anonymous #2 10w

Statistically 90% of black women voted for Kamala and 80% of black men so idk what ur on about💀

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Anonymous #33 10w

If I truly care how my loved ones are affected, then results are my goal. Standing on moral principle for the inherent value of those morals, at the expense of achieving pragmatic ethical policy is harmful and empty. My loved ones are impacted by results and policy, not by allegiance to ideals. Barring immediate physical danger and other outliers, cutting off people who disagree with me, whether over morals or other differences, increases the risk of broader harm and undermines social progress.

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Anonymous #33 10w

Exclusion is a superficial position of moral purity that risks practical harm. Excluding people increases the risk of insulating them further into their beliefs and breeding resentment. It increases the risk of fostering fellowship among like-minded opponents, strengthening their cohesion, and pulling them further from positive influence. It promotes division on our side, and contributes to a vicious, self-perpetuating cycle of polarization conducive to gridlock and antithetical to progress.

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Anonymous #33 10w

Regardless of my morals, these factors will shape our society and world through cultural shifts, class consciousness, partisan divides, and the polarization of values. Ultimately, those factors, our society, and our world are shaped by us. And like it or not, “us” includes the people we disagree with, even on a vehement moral level. I’m actively hurting myself and those I love if I contribute to the us-vs-them mentality and class infighting promoted by people profiting from dividing our society.

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Anonymous #33 10w

I refuse to be complacent in moral outrage without offering solutions. I believe in trying to escape the gridlock and the endless cycle. I believe solidarity represents a practical chance to achieve consistent improvement. I refuse to dismiss cooperation with other human beings, who are being manipulated more than they are malicious. I reject the notion that I must compromise my values to show compassion to my opponents. And I refuse to abandon my compassion for anyone.

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Anonymous #29 10w

I’m sorry but…you would tell 2 people in real life to not be friends bc they have different political beliefs? How exactly does their friendship affect you?

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Anonymous #29 10w

Yes of course everyone is entitled to who they want to be friends with… the person who posted this says they are receiving backlash for not ending the friendships. The point is if the people in the friendship are happy who gives a fuck what “backlash” you receive from other people…

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If you mean natural rights, there’s really no argument to be made that most of the so-called rights leftists discuss are natural rights.

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gay people being allowed to marry is so far from murder. You know that. Leave the strawman in the field for once.

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Anonymous #38 10w

You ask like politics is just some silly little word- if my friends genuinely believe that immigrants are paying taxes and receiving government services, I'm dropping them. For being stubborn and stupid. If my friends believe that abortions should be banned from mothers who will die without them, they are not my friend. If my friends really think that Christianity and Trumps policies to hand in hand, I'm going to let them scurry away to the cult their parents taught them to be in.

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Anonymous #38 10w

Those aren't friends. Those are disgusting humans. I said what I said

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Anonymous #19 10w

You’re literally insane. I come from a family of Asian immigrants and everything you’ve said is beyond wild. Seek help and stop assuming everyone’s beliefs etc based off of one factor

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Anonymous #6 10w

It depends what topics. I don’t agree with everything Trump believes, I don’t agree with everything Kamala believes. However, I aligned with Trump more (or at least the conservative mindset when it comes to the economy) Every major metropolitan city is a shithole for the most part and every single one is ran by liberal policies, so I just don’t think it would be good to have those same policies govern our country

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Anonymous #42 10w

Ok I’ve only read THIS ONE THING 42 said and I kinda agree. There’s things you can agree/disagree with on both sides but what matters to you changes over time. Rn they are more concerned with economic stuff and that’s ok. Based on this one thing bc I’m not reading the whole thread

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Anonymous #6 10w

No one’s trying to take away gay marriage

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Anonymous #34 10w

AERRRRRH WRONG the GOP’s own written stances (since at least 2020!) literally say that marriage should be defined as only between a woman and a man

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Anonymous #34 10w

By taking away protections for gay marriage they are. Now it’s more up to states for “issues”like that meaning they can AND WILL take away rights.

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It’s not an unintelligent talking point you just aren’t educated. They typically are referring to civil rights, which are amended to the constitution. However, marginalized are historically and currently often denied those rights.

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Anonymous #5 10w

It’s not someone else’s job to educate the people in their life. Cutting them off is teaching them about their views, it just requires reflection and emotional labor.

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Anonymous #11 10w

You can’t argue with facism. Engaging in the rhetoric is dangerous enough. Educating people like you is a labor not to be placed on the people already defending themselves.

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Anonymous #11 10w

The literally attacked the capitol are you even hearing yourself rn. They marched on the capitol and threatened the lives of opposing viewpoints. Open your eyes and take politics out of it- they threatened people’s goddamn lives.

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Anonymous #35 9w

Yeah I function under I can be friends with republicans and people with other beliefs, but not trumpies or people who believe that the existence of others is worth less than others or less deserving of rights, freedoms, or help. We can have different beliefs as long as we have the same base level morals.

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Anonymous #46 8w

Are you white? Straight? And/or middle class??

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Anonymous #12 8w

Yes I am all of those actually. And my friends are not all straight, white, or middle class. What does that have to do with anything?

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Anonymous #38 8w

I agree with #38. All of us hating each other for politics is literally the problem with America right now

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Anonymous #46 8w

Because, “There’s no reason to hate each other when we can really just move past it” is such a privileged mindset. Much like that of a straight white man.

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Anonymous #12 8w

Why do you hate straight white men? Politics are not the end all be all. They’re making us segregate from each other. If a straight white girl can have friends of all races and genders and sexualities without issue I think we all can. And not being friends with someone because they have different values is more privileged than my skin tone could ever be. Aren’t liberals supposed to “love everyone” ?? Right.

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Anonymous #46 8w

I never said I hate straight white men. In fact, I am a gay black man who’s best friend is a straight white man. What I hate is when privilege is used to evade accountability. Straight people have privilege. White people have privilege. Men have privilege. Middle class comes with some privilege. You happen to be all of those things. And rather than being aware of that and using your privilege for good. You are doing this exact opposite. And then have the nerve to argue “Guys just move past it”

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Anonymous #12 8w

Gay people have privilege and black people have privilege. How have I done the opposite? I’m caring for people who are way different than me. I have gay black friends and Hispanic friends, etc. so how am I not using it for good…? You are making problems for yourself by actively hating people who don’t agree with you. People have different opinions doesn’t make them privileged.

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Anonymous #46 8w

Different opinions Is fine. Different ideologies are not fine when they negate each other. Name something good Trump is doing for the LGBTQ community?

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Anonymous #12 8w

He holds a giant party for Pride month every year in Trump tower. Look it up. He’s supporting gay people and not taking their rights. In fact he has actively spoke up about it and was an activist for equal rights. You’re looking for a needle that doesn’t exist in a haystack. He does no hate gays nor does he want to take their rights. He has a problem when it comes to kids.

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Anonymous #46 8w

Lmaoooooo I now realize that it is pointless having the conversation with you because you live in a fallacy. Half of what you’ve said is blatantly not true and nothing I say will dismantle your confirmation bias. Firstly, that party that you’re talking about was a private event thrown by the Log Cabin Republicans association, not Trump. In fact, not only was the event not a official White House or Trump sanctioned event, this is the first year in forever where there has been no official…

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Anonymous #46 8w

Pride month recognition from the White House or the President. Trump actively said that he was trying to rename pride month. Due to orders from this administration, pride flags and markings are being removed across the country. Even PreP is in the process of becoming inaccessible. And let’s not mention the attempted erasure of the trans community. But yeah Trump LOVES the gays 🙄

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Anonymous #12 8w

You can literally look up anything I said, it’s true. But back to the actual discussion. Not having friendships because someone thinks differently of entirely your choice, but it widens your view point. I have every kind of friend. I love them all and we have all talked politics. I’m not living in a fallacy and I really hope someday you will open your horizons to actually love people based on more than one standpoint.

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