When you enter a country without the proper legal documentation you have broken a law. You are now in that country illegally. That makes you an illegal immigrant. You are there without permission and have willingly broken the law. There is nothing dehumanizing about calling out people who willingly have broken the law.
And why did they immigrate? Who created the circumstances for them to have to leave to survive? They are snatching people who are LEGALLY following the systems. They show up to court and take people who are following the proper procedures. And they are only really doing it to POC not the many Europeans who are here “illegally”. Also we don’t have a proper channel to citizenship. The system is broken, and so they do what they can. What we need is comprehensive reform not sending people to
It’s almost like the vast majority of illegal immigrants come from Latin America not Europe and the ones that do come from Europe should be deported too. And honestly do you have any figures for how many “innocent legal immigrants” have been deported cause of ICE? Not trying to be sarcastic but if you can provide me evidence that it’s happening on a large scale I’m more than willing to change my position on the matter.
“We need them” the people that need them are the business owners who like to cut cost by paying these people what equates to slave wages in the modern day. Those businesses save money by hiring cheap labor to exploit and not give them benefits. Since paying American workers is much more expensive and you can’t exploit them to the same degree. Those businesses act like they’re morally superior and are doing this out of the kindness of their hearts. When in reality they’re worried about losing $.
There is no such thing as immigrating legally and overstaying, because overstaying a visa is illegal, and getting a visa is not immigrating. Being brought as a child, while not the child’s fault, also is illegal, and thus they are illegal immigrants as well. Nothing you said was worth saying, nor does it affect my point. There are legal and illegal ways to move to a country. If you break the law you don’t get to be surprised and play victim when the longstanding and well-known punishment comes.
Have you ever looked at how to immigrate here? There’s no one pathway. It’s a DISASTER, so how are they supposed to survive. It can take up to 30 years to gain citizenship. What do they do in the meantime? There’s no effective way to resolve this and calling them illegal and deporting them costs us far more money in the long term than simply fixing our system to accommodate. I hope you never have to risk your life to immigrate and I pray no one ever treats you like you are treating them.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/migrants-in-u-s-legally-and-with-no-criminal-history-caught-up-in-trump-crackdown https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/05/18/ice-tactic-deport-before-court-immigration/83515061007/ https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5337722-ice-arrests-migrants-after-dismissal/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ice-agents-chicago-migrants-criminal-histories-collateral-damage-rcna189478
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/04/nx-s1-5282379/trumps-mass-deportation-arrests-of-non-criminal-immigrants-no-criminal-record https://apnews.com/article/trump-venezuela-el-salvador-immigration-dd4f61999f85c4dd8bcaba7d4fc7c9af https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/venezuelans-deported-el-salvador-detention-abuses-rcna197125
If they were truly having to risk their life then they should have applied for asylum. If they didn’t do that and instead crossed the border illegally and without documentation then they have no reason to think they would be allowed to stay. No one should be more angry about the problem than legal immigrants.
‘emotional propaganda’ instead of just ‘propaganda’ — good to know you may be aware of your lack of empathy. regardless, definitely a assumption nonetheless. personally i listen, read, watch from many outlets; ive also registered to listened to american propoganda that’s been used on other countries. the american values are not upheld equitably— so what happens when your ‘illegal aliens’ have a child born on u.s. soil?