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devil.may.care

I got called a misogynist today simply because I advocated for a young trans woman who wanted to play futbol. If she wants to play futbol with her girls team then I say let her play. It’s everyone’s game and everyone should be allowed to play. AITA?
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Anonymous 2d

As a woman, absolutely not, I think it’s just dat classic right wing ideology, not u man

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Anonymous 2d

NTA. If a terf ever brings up "biological advantages" ask them to compare the average height of wnba players and non wnba players

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Anonymous 18h

not fair to let boys compete w girls in any sport, even in soemthing as basic as soccer, boy have a distinct biological advantage and it is demeaning to girls to let them be discarded by boys

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Anonymous 16h

Gonna consider everyone shouting transphobic stuff in these comments to be trans given how opinionated you are on stuff that doesn’t affect cis people. Idk

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Anonymous 2d

Yes

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Anonymous 2d

So you’re letting Shrek play sports with the princesses?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

Why? Explain it.

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Anonymous replying to -> devil.may.care 2d

Because he’s transphobic

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2d

Rage baiting silly goose

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 2d

Because *she’s* not interested in playing sports with anyone who went through puberty as a man, or sharing locker rooms with people that have DICKS

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 2d

Big difference between being transphobic and having common sense btw

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

That’s literally rhetoric transphobes use to further their agenda

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 2d

If it’s true 🤷‍♀️ the fact transphobes use it doesn’t make it automatically wrong just so you know.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2d

Doesn’t matter. It’s a legit problem in today’s society

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2d

You’re the problem. You got an issue with it then be alone in that.

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Anonymous replying to -> devil.may.care 2d

Literally isn’t alone in that. Look up Lia Thomas and you’ll quickly see some issues. Nothing wrong with trans people and respecting pronouns, but gender segregated sports exist for a reason. They’re more than welcome to join a coed league.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

Why u arguing online abt it, we don’t agree w u, check the downvotes bro

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2d

And?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

Get a job bro 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2d

It’s the weekend dumbass

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

People work on the weekend. Check your privilege before you speak.

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Anonymous replying to -> devil.may.care 2d

cHecK yOuR pRiVleGe. What a loser 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

I’d rather be a “loser” than a transphobic piece of shit.

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Anonymous replying to -> devil.may.care 2d

Agreed lmao what a disappointment some people turn out to be for our futures

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Anonymous replying to -> devil.may.care 2d

Wowwww I’m so sad 😂😂😂

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Anonymous replying to -> devil.may.care 2d

You clearly never played sports. There is a clear biological advantage that biological males have over females. Try going to a gym for once and look around at the average weights lifted by both genders. They aren’t the same. Height and appearance do not summarize the strength and speed that differs between genders.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

Honestly? Grow up. No one has the time for this shit, and I especially feel that way since I have work tomorrow morning (Sunday).

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2d

Then leave the convo? Go to bed? There are time zones, here for me it’s not even the afternoon on Saturday, once again another unfortunate case of “the world revolves around me”

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2d

I can’t wait to leave in a few for my July 4 and immediately forget abt ts for the rest of my days man

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Anonymous 2d

So I am a woman first off, and I don’t appreciate playing against full grown men who put on some lipstick and call themselves a woman Petite women can easily get injured, men in wrestling have weight classes for a reason, you know

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Anonymous 2d

Says the person that keeps responding to us lol. And yes, even the OP can turn off their phone (unless of course they’re a complete moron)

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Anonymous 2d

Brother, idk where you live but it is legit THE MORNING where I live, calm down

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2d

Ok I did wrestling w trans women in high school years ago as a 5’1” 100lb class, stop fucking fear-mongering, I beat numerous trans women cause it’s legit not as simple as “men that put lipstick on” like fuck what iq are we operating at rn

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2d

Anyways gang I’m checking out, cause I got anything to do but deal w this, but have a good day despite y’all’s bs

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2d

In that weight class? Ok sure, what about the higher up you go in weight classes? Not to be mean but any biological male at 100 pounds is built like a 6th grader, try increasing in weight classes and see what happens

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

holy ratio transphobe

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1d

Just shows how many people can’t think for themselves

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1d

You guys have shit arguments by the way. So far I’ve heard how much I suck and how other people don’t agree with me. Real perspective changing…

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1d

Biological advantages for men are not just height btw

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1d

Simple ChatGPT or google search for “List biological advantages men have over women in sports objectively” will reveal the following list.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1d

* Greater muscle mass * Greater strength * Higher testosterone * Larger heart * Higher hemoglobin * Higher VO₂ max * Larger, denser bones

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1d

* Greater height and limb length * Higher power output * Faster sprint speed * Higher jumping ability * Stronger grip strength * Greater anaerobic capacity * Lower body fat percentage

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1d

* Larger lung capacity * Faster recovery from high-intensity training * Greater force production * More explosive acceleration * Greater throwing velocity * Higher average bone and tendon stiffness

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1d

It’s not fair for men to compete in women sports on so many levels, this is not a subjective opinion but a fact.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1d

Exactly #7, and here some dumbasses will still say that is transphobic, so I guess facts and the truth are as such

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 22h

Ah yes relying on chatgpt to do the work when your braincells can’t.

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Anonymous replying to -> devil.may.care 22h

Google or any other website would say the same

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Anonymous replying to -> devil.may.care 21h

Imagine being so stupid that instead of simply fact checking something, you go after someone’s character. You clearly aren’t the brightest 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 21h

haha this kid doesn't know HRT changes your physical and sex characteristics to be within the typical range of cis people. in fact many trans women will be more like cis women in these regards than some cis women athletes 🫵😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 21h

and i specify trans women because usually trans men aren't as gatekept, but that applies to them too (;

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 21h

Haha this kid doesn’t know that the science is actually still inconclusive and a large number of studies have found even after HRT trans women who went through male puberty still have certain advantages like bone density and lung capacity 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 21h

Trans men aren’t as gatekept literally proves my point. Trans men don’t have unfair advantages so people don’t care. If people only cared about because they were transphobic, all trans people would have issues

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Anonymous replying to -> devil.may.care 17h

ChatGPT is still correct, someone who has taken a vast amount of college level biology courses.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 17h

Then just use it if you believe it will say the same- duh

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 17h

This is actually false, the increase of estrogen does not bring bone density down to a females level, blood volume still remains the same, lung capacity does not decrease, and wing span doesn’t decrease.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 17h

If you don’t appreciate it, don’t participate.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 17h

Hey if you don’t feel safe around men taking up your space for exclusively made for women maybe you just don’t participate. That’s misogynistic.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 17h

They aren’t men, though. They’re male. Sex≠gender

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 17h

Male=men and female=woman. Gender is not a spectrum it is binary. You can follow the ideology of a pedophile John money.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 17h

I’m actually not following his ideology, I’m following the dictionary. A woman is an adult who identifies as such. A male is someone who was born with XY chromosomes. Hope this helps!

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 17h

“Women deserve to have their own spaces” also the left “let’s take that away and let men intrude into it”.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 17h

What will it take for people to recognize that trans women aren’t men 🫩🥀

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 17h

You don’t? He was the one that pioneered that gender and sex are different. So how are you not following his ideology? “A woman is an adult identifies as such”, so what is a woman then?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 17h

reopening the asylums. hope that helps

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 17h

With that ideology, if yall mfers cared so much about it then why aren’t you crying about trans men, as u would say “women,” potentially being raped in bathrooms they share in sports like yall did for cis women w trans men in bathrooms 😐

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 16h

Ok. Well if a lady with no dick and DDD cups walks into the men’s bathrooms and XY chromosomes, don’t start asking why she’s there.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 16h

bruh i got docked points by my male literature professor for saying men are biologically physically stronger than women in sports and he knocked points off for misogyny. I still got an A but i was PISSED.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

I don’t get why these freaks don’t understand, gender is psychological, sex is biological 🫩 they must have some kinda insecurity to not be ok w trans women in women’s sports

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

The difference is I advocate for these people to seek proper mental care instead of making them believe something they are not. Would you tell a schizophrenic that the voices are real? Or someone who is suffering with anorexia that they are fat? Also, I advocate against anyone getting raped.

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 16h

(I myself am a left leaning woman)

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

Acting like gender isn’t literally a social construct-

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

Ok, then sure. I follow a scientists ideology. Our president is a pedo, so I’d argue that’s worse.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

Yes but I wasn’t asking about “your” opinions, you made a point about what you see as nonsensical left wing ideology. I was making the same point about right wing ideology. And honestly fuck you, I’m assuming you’re cis? I am too but with a degree in psychology, and I find the ignorance on display an insult to people. You talk about proper mental care without having any understanding of what that looks like, so don’t use it as ammunition for your thoughtless arguments.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

Maybe it didn’t in your transition, but everyone sees different results and we can’t categorize one person based solely on how we’d categorize another

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

So you follow a scientist who did a botched circumcision then convinced his parents it would be better to convince their child is a girl then made the two twins have sex with each other and video all of it? You follow that type of person?

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Anonymous 16h

Exactly! I’m glad we agree :)

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

You follow the man whose name was mentioned in the biggest sex scandal in history more times than Jesus in the Bible? The world’s a corrupt place on both sides, that’s why I don’t stay in just one side.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

I don’t understand why these freaks convince mentally ill people that they are something they aren’t. Do you tell people with schizophrenia that the voices are real or someone anorexia to keep going because they are fat? Also, the person who pioneered sex and gender are different was a pedophile. I’m against both

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

Aw lol they deleted their reply

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

This commonly held belief by transphobia proves my point! See other assholes like me say it too! Transmen can’t have advantages bc I actually view them as women and man strong woman weak woman no can play sport good! Tesosterone!!! 🐺😡💪 but that’s different than HRT! That’s why we are gonna refuse to allow transmen to compete on men’s teams and use a fucking high schooler named Mack Beggs in a political campaign misrepresenting him as a transwoman to further our own agenda!

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

Except, it’s been proven that there’s no mental illness that comes with trans people. I’m glad you’re anonymous, because you’re embarrassing yourself.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

Do I? Or are you making an assumption? That’s why you side with a pedophile ideologies that made two twins have sex with each other? Interesting

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Anonymous replying to -> sluttygoober 16h

It’s so silly 😭 like they forget nuance ever exists It’s crazy bc everyone has biological differences. We could categorize brown vs blue eyes just based on the way they take in light differently and therefore one could have an advantage over the other in, say, archery competitions. It’s so arbitrary, and at the end of the day when hrt is taken, *literally doesn’t make a difference*

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

Except there is, it’s classified as gender dysphoria and body dysmorphia. Which a person can have one or both. So, yes it is proven as a mental illness.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

Why do you follow the ideologies of our pedo president? He thinks the same way you do, so you’re following his ideologies. Not making an assumption, I’m making an observation. I don’t agree with anything John said except some of his science. You’re so focused on the founder of this ideology that you don’t care about me talking about the dictionary.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

Exactly, according to DSM-5—what psychologists refer to to diagnose mental illnesses—-being trans is NOT a mental illness. There often exists cognitive dissonance amongst other issues, more due to societal pressure to perform specific behaviors based upon the cultural gender norm (a great example of how gender and sex are not the same) than anything to do with mental illness within itself

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

*loud buzzer* Gender dysphoria is extreme stress about one’s gender identity not being what they were assigned at birth. Not all trans people—I’d even argue that not most trans people experience gender dysphoria.

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

Wow such a mature response

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

Like if they’re so worried about trans people, why don’t they just stop talking about it.? Just say “I wish it’d go away!” 😣

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

You’re an immature person that deserves an immature response.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

Sorry, which response of mine were you referring to?

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

They’re obsessed 🤨 kinda makes me wonder if they’re overcompensating for their own insecurities

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

It’s the immediate downvote of your comment for me💀

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

OP brought it up idiot

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

RIGHT 😭 like could u make it any more obvious

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

Which wasn’t a cue for you to go off on a tangent about how trans women shouldn’t have rights. Hope this helps!

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 16h

Orrrr you let boys and girls or males and females play on the same team 🤨

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

Do I? I’m following what I’ve been taught and studied in college. If we have that similarities it’s strictly a coincidence. No, you’re making an assumption. You’re so focused on trying to correlate what I say with Trump. Also, the founder of said ideology is responsible for your belief that gender and sex are different.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

What about the females being raped by trans women? A quick google search will tell you that’s happened btw. So am I more worried about what actually happens as compared to what may happen? Duh! Still dont think anyone should get raped though, and the rapist should be locked away forever, but that’s besides the point

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

It’s almost like I already told you that I don’t agree with anything besides some of his scientific theories. Albert Einstein was a womanizer. Do I agree with him? No. Do I still support his theories? Yes.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

Ah I see. An intellectual. Because we all know that if *some* people of a specific demographic commit a crime, then the entire demographic should be held accountable for it. Classic bigotry, gotta love it

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

past childhood it makes no sense to bc there is very obvious differences in athletic capabilities.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

Except, anyone can be a rapist, and if you’re a rapist, it makes you a bad person. NOT a bad trans person.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 16h

Not to jump in where I’m probably unwelcome but while it is true that “both gender teams” would have more men than women, there are a lot of women who actually have biological advantages over men For instance a taller woman has an advantage over a ton of shorter men in basketball. It depends on context

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

a psychological condition characterized by significant, ongoing distress caused by a mismatch between a person's gender identity and the sex they were assigned at birth

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

actually makes you both.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 16h

Sports should be more obvious about different abilities and aspects.

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

Basically, co ed teams are very possible and have happened in the past! People just don’t think about it because on average men are stronger than women (and that includes trans folk. Trans men are generally stronger than trans women. But like I said, it depends)

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

Yes exactly, we are all biologically different. Gender is often not a defining factor and should not be defaulted as such.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 16h

Being trans doesn’t define you as a person. If you’re a bad person, you’re a bad person.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

You’re holding an entire demographic accountable right now! (Some men aren’t rapists, so clearly they all are and you can’t trust them alone with someone with female genitalia)

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

coed teams limit ratios and require certain minimum amounts for women bc otherwise you would just get teams of 90% men. yes statistical outliers exist, not relevant factors in the context given.

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

I was in coed wrestling for several years in high school and had no issue, as a girl, beating trans boys and cis boys alike

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

Bro didn’t listen to the fact that not all trans people have dysphoria.🫨

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

Pop off queen

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

I don’t think you guys understand how hormones work. Chromosomes do direct hormones and the formation of ovaries or testes in fetal development but it’s hormones that ultimately decide your skeletal structures during puberty. HRT can’t reverse the skeletal structures from puberty once you’re fully developed but your hormones play a vital role in performance too like cardiac and hemoglobin differences oxygen carrying capacity, fat distribution, lean mass development, and too much more to list

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 16h

That’s not the point. It depends highly on the sport and unique physical qualities of the players, not just what chromosomes they were born with. It’s as arbitrary as if we classed sports by eye color, because that changes the way light enters the eye and could affect performance

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

I wish these people would get better mental health care so they can live happy life’s.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

sure. but if you’re a bad person who makes questionable decisions to try and access private spaces. plays a factor

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Anonymous replying to -> sluttygoober 16h

Research shows that trans men MASSIVELY outperform cis women in women’s sports (even though for some reason conservatives treat this as proving their point?) This is because hrt changes physical performance. The same goes for trans women. It’s not rocket science, just biology

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

Jesus Christ this is such bullshit. You don’t understand what you’re talking about.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 16h

Absolutely correct, but that’s less than 5% of the trans population, so whataboutisms don’t really matter 👍🏽

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

Do you need evidence, because I promise that I have it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

Dude that’s sick as hell I love that for you

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

if sports are generally a feat of physical capability, then they quickly become preferential towards males

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

Then join a coed team! Some teams are separated for a reason. Plus, all the arguments about “after so many years on HRT, a trans woman resembles a biological woman” doesn’t even work in a lot of contexts because in cases of high school and even college sports those athletes haven’t had the chance to take HRT that long so they still resemble biological males more closely

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

Yes trans women can’t change their skeletal structure post puberty. But there’s nothing they can really do. They can’t access testosterone as minors but at no point do I give a shit about skeletal structure and upbringing in sports. Simone Biles is built fucking insanely! Her wingspan height fucking everything is perfect for gymnastics. I don’t care that her genetic makeup directed her hormones to create a gymnastics killing machine anymore than any of the heights of nba players. 1

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

True but I mean *is* whataboutism is the entire modus operandi of modern right wing ideology 😭💔

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 16h

You forget how physique varies between people. Some sports favor a slimmer build, while others are built on brute strength alone. Unless you count football as the only sport, this isn’t a good point

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

Damn queen you’re right😞

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

You did, but you follow what led to his ideology. The difference between Albert Einstein is that him being a womanizer didn't go into his ideology nor his work; on the other hand you have John money who's work and ideology went hand and hand with his experiments which involved pedophilia

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

Says the person who just used a whataboutism argument

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

If you a person thinks they are born in the wrong body which majority of trans people think then it’s gender dysphoria

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

Not as an argument but as a point, yes I was pointing out hypocrisy but it’s because the point they were making was also about hypocrisy 🫩 meta shit ig but I made my legitimate points very clear

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Anonymous replying to -> sluttygoober 16h

Bone structure literally varies so much from person to person that it’s insane to think all cis women are simply built the same. It’s also funny how transphobes loathe the idea of providing hrt or even just hormone blockers to people undergoing puberty, and then point fingers and claim “bone structure” as if they didn’t set that up themselves

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

That’s just false. You can think you’re in the wrong body without being under extreme stress.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

But most of the men that follow the same ideology you do think that 12 year olds are hot, so…

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

I would be MORE THAN HAPPY to debate you on this, provided the argument is respectful, but there are a ton of people in this argument and it’s getting hard to follow. If you list out your points, I can list out my counter arguments and my points and we can do that. Otherwise, this seems like a waste of both of our times

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

It takes on average 6 months for a trans woman to reach hormone levels akin to that of a trans woman, so I don’t know where you got that statistic. Your whole argument kind of just crumbles

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16h

Yeah I would assume it would be if you can’t comprehend

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

Some people are just built different with advantages in sports bc of how they grew- if hormones ultimately play a bigger role in your athletic performance- your endurance strength and power- AND multiple studies have shown that trans women’s performance becomes within similar ranges to cis women then I’m not gonna give a shit about their skeletal structure or whether or not they started out more strong or weak fat or skinny anymore than any other athlete

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

The transphobes are real mad at that one 🤭

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

basketball, football, track, rugby, lacrosse, wrestling, swimming and powerlifting are all going to give preference to size and strength. if you’re a lover of cross country or some other niche sport then congrats on liking the 1 thing that maybe doesn’t give as explicit preference to capability. that’s generally not the case w sports though across the board

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Anonymous replying to -> sluttygoober 16h

Estrogen* yall know what I meant

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

To reach that of a cis woman* my bad, i make errors sometimes

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

I think it already will be my friend, and I have to be asleep soon for work in the morning. Frankly, you and I will not agree, because unfortunately that is the nature of politics. Some of my first comments were about trying to avoid getting into an argument online over this, because I knew it wouldn’t serve anyone, as it never does. But I couldn’t help myself. I’m going to leave it alone.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

Wait, but isn’t that what they said😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

Either that or they really wanna get screwed by a trans person.

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

Screenshot posted at bottom of page. (Won’t let me reply to you directly via pictures). And yes, before you cry that it’s an AI response, the linked articles show the exact same things, they’re just too long to screenshot, but feel free to fact check yourself

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

Did you actually read it..? Because you just strengthened #14’s point.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

It’s not extreme stress, it’s caused by distress which that distress stems from them feeling like they are in the wrong body.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

No it says it can take up to 6 years, the screenshot got cut off

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

That’s so funny While you still can’t trust ai 100%, I think it’s great that you’re backing up my point #1. Thank you

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

But the literal definition says extreme distress… are you arguing the dictionary now😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

I did, it just got cut off in the screenshot. It says it can take up to six years at the top of the page

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

That’s just kinda embarrassing.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

Odd that’s coming from someone who follows a scientist who was a pedophile and still using his ideology. It’s a bit of projection going on here

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

That you can’t read? Yea it is

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

But that quite literally *is* a hormonal adjustment. It says it right there “wider range of emotions.”

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h
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Anonymous replying to -> #10 16h

Id also like to add that, as someone who played lacrosse, I find it a bit offensive that you think it’s all about brute force. I’m easily on the smaller side but I was a great player because I’m flexible and agile and I’ve got good hand eye coordination. Think outside the box or whatever

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 16h

Dude we’re not even talking about him anymore. You keep bringing up old stuff and I literally gave you a dictionary definition that you’re trying to argue me down about this is just getting sad😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

I never said that no changes occur… I said they don’t closely match biological women for about two years… obviously changes occur within the first six months? Duh?

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 16h

that’s cool you are a statistical outlier. that’s not the norm.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

They said “akin.” They never said absolutely the same…

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 16h

THAT’S OUR POINT. YOU CAN’T RELY ON EVERY STATISTIC. THANKS FOR AGREEING👍🏽

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

What are you even arguing about here? That trans women will never be the same as biological women? So you’re proving my point further? Make it make sense!

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

Do you not know what akin means..? It means similar. It does NOT mean the same.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

you should use norms and avgs as the rule. thats how life functions

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 16h

Omg. We know. We’re saying that you can’t use it for everything because there are so many different outliers.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

Yea I know that! What’s your point? I KNOW trans women will never be THE SAME.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

The definition says distress not extreme

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16h

My point is that #14 always said akin and never exactly the same.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

Where did the dictionary derive it from? The founder of it. That’s why he is still brought up.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 16h

I never said the same. Like ever.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

I said resembles….

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 15h

Are you referencing yourself as “he” now? This is embarrassing. Also, who cares when that man didn’t write the damn dictionary definition…do you need a nap or do you just want to be railed by a trans person?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

I’m agreeing with that. I’m saying that neither of you said exactly the same, so there wasn’t a need for your ai argument.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

but there aren’t ~that~ many. stats can be hard for some. it’s ok buddy ✌🏽

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 15h

But there *are* that many because there are so many different people on the planet. I fear that’s common sense, my dear.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

THEY STARTED THE ARGUMENT! I said that it will take years for trans women to resemble women, they said it takes six months. I don’t start shit

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 15h

Ok, well my definition says extreme stress. Distress IS extreme stress. Stop strengthening my argument, you’re making yourself look bad.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

“I don’t start shit” and you were the first commenter 💀

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

I was answering a question that someone else asked. (So yea still didn’t start it)

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

“gender dysphoria,” a psychiatric diagnosis that refers to the psychological distress that results from an incongruence between one’s sex assigned at birth and one’s gender identity -https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria. No, distress does not mean extreme, there are many different levels of it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

You did indeed start it by being the “first” responder. Tada!

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

we aren’t that dif. that’s common sense. no one’s thinking about you and you aren’t special. well over a quarter billion people have the same birthdate as you.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

Quick logic question for you. Someone asks a question. Someone else answers it. Who started the interaction? (Hint: if there was no question, there wouldn’t be a response)

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

Yeah John money is a man. You said you are getting it from the dictionary, so where does the dictionary get it from? The person who created it, if he didn’t create it then there would be word for it in the dictionary. Why are you getting so emotional?

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 15h

Oxford dictionary defines gender dysphoria as extreme distress caused by one’s gender not registering with the sex assigned at birth. Are we done now?

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 15h

Sorry dawg I thought you were referring to yourself.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

sad or anxious feelings that somebody has because their gender identity does not match the sex they were said to have at birth -Oxford dictionary.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

And, I wouldn’t have even continued talking if there was no response back. (Which by the way was just some fallacious ad hominem attack that shows me exactly how smart the OP really is) 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

Did the first comment start the comment section? (Hint: the first comment does in fact start a comment section. That’s why the responses are labeled)

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Anonymous 15h

When did I attack you personally? If you’re mad over banter, maybe you shouldn’t be trying to argue.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 15h

Thank you for repeating what I said..?

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 15h

Every one is special, some people are just more special than others. If you weren’t thinking about me, you wouldn’t be responding 🥹✌🏽

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

“Sorry dawg I thought you were referring to yourself.” I’m not mad just pointing it out

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

That’s such a bad argument. You’re literally saying the person RESPONDING starting it. Clearly, they were RESPONDING to someone (i.e. the person who started the conversation). If I just walked up to someone and said “yes” for no reason, that wouldn’t make any sense at all.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

You said extreme stress, which is not said in the definition.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 15h

That’s not a personal attack- I literally said that I thought you were referring to yourself…it was an accident. Hello???😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 15h
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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

Furthermore, I said I didn’t start the argument about the timeline of trans people, and never said anything about never starting anything so your argument doesn’t make sense anyway. Plus, following your logic you’re the one who “started” this conversation.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

It seems we’re talking about two different things. You’re talking about the argument as a whole, and I’m only talking about the comment section.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

Yes. I started the comment thread under the picture Z

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

Yea, you’re probably right. Still don’t see how it matters at all though. It has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

🧍🏽‍♀️

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

Ok so you and I both “started” a comment section. (By responding to someone else so neither of us actually “started” an argument). So what?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

I never said you started an argument tho..

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

Oh my bad I deleted that comment then.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

So what is the point? I’m genuinely confused about what you’re trying to say and how it relates to anything at all.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

I gave two definitions one from a .gov and one Oxford.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

I mean if you want to be pedantic, sure I obviously “started shit”. I’ve started books, classes, vacations, sentences. But you (hopefully) knew that when I said “I don’t start shit,” that I meant I don’t start arguments.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 15h

I just gave you an Oxford one. I’m not going to look at yours tbh it’s past my bedtime and I just wanted to argue bc I’m grieving rn🤷🏽‍♀️

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

I knew what you meant. I’m being difficult just because

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

Because you don’t have any valid arguments? Got it. Good night then!

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

No, mostly because my uncle got murdered, so I’m trying to distract myself, but if you wanna call it that, then that’s fine 👍🏽

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

If that’s actually true, I’m sorry about your uncle. If it’s not (or honestly even if it is), your arguments were still bad and there are far better ways to distract yourself then being rude to other people.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

Fair enough

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

“Being rude to people.” You’re on the internet-1 Your apology for my very real and very dead uncle wasn’t even real-2 And you said that trans people shouldn’t be defended-3 I don’t think you’re in the right to talk here👍🏽

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

And if it is true, I genuinely hope that things get better. Loosing someone you care about is always hard, and I’m sorry you have to deal with something like that.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

Where did I ever say trans people shouldn’t be defended? And yes, I did mean when I said I was sorry that one of your loved ones died, but I’m not sorry for arguing with you at all. And being rude to someone is never ok, no matter where it is. You’re an adult and should know better than that.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

I’m not an adult so oh well. You’ve never met a minor in university before?🤷🏽‍♀️

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

Oh, that makes more sense. Now I understand why you’re acting so childish!

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

Also, you said yes to OP when he asked if he was the AH for defending trans women.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

Grief makes people childish. Also, I could consider you to be rude right now. But I thought you said not to be rude?

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

I never said defending trans people was wrong. I said that advocating for a trans woman to play on a team the OP isn’t even on is assholish. Im not going to continue arguing with a child that has openly admitted not to care about the argument and just wants to be annoying. I hope you feel better. Go to bed.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

But you’re ok with arguing with other adults? Aren’t you setting a bad example for the children?

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

It’s a parents job to watch their children, not my job to set a good example.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15h

You’re an adult. It’s your job to look after the future generations, and for someone who said they’re done arguing with a child, you sure are dragging this out.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 15h

Ok good night!

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 9h

Then it becomes dangerous for transwomen as well

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 8h

I love how that got them to stop responding lmao Pro athletes are the top 1% of their field, and the way they get there is usually because they have a biological predisposition towards certain traits (ex: Michael Phelps’s arms are basically every swimmer’s dream), meaning there are already biological factors that make them better than their peers. Gender does not factor into the equation when you look at physical performance like this. We can and will talk about statistical outliers because (1)

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 8h

The reality is that *almost every pro sports player* is a statistical outlier themselves. Idk how that slipped your mind #10 (2)

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 7h

I swear, rage baiting is the best thing since baked goods and seafood.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 6h

Damn now I want seafood :(

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 6h

I’m so glad I’m not allergic to seafood 😛

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 6h

Dude I was literally just in MA (I’m from Kansas 😭) and I had the besttt lobster 🤤

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 6h

If you ever go to Birmingham, AL, you have to go to Pappadeaux. It’s an amazing seafood restaurant and if you like sweets, or spicy food, nothing on their menu is a miss.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 6h

Hell yea thanks for the rec I’ll keep that in mind

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