Anonymous #1 1w

It’s not an excuse but I also get it. You can be good every other time and slip up once and get a kid.

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Anonymous OP 1w

oh I had the mindset of the people who just pull out and call it a day then act shocked 😭 that’s like everyone in my town

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Anonymous #1 1w

💀 That’s not an accident

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Anonymous #2 1w

that’s my mindset

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Anonymous OP 1w

they say it is but also. I was just talking to my friend about how our sex ed was GENUINELY “don’t have sex before marriage or you’ll die” like that’s genuinely what they told us

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Anonymous #2 1w

Should do and what’s realistic isn’t the same. Ideally you should take precautions every time but all it takes is slipping up ONE time to end up with a kid. Even if you take precautions you can still end up with a kid. Those are the kind of accidents I’m talking about. Like I don’t like it but I get it. But people constantly having unprotected sex on purpose and being surprised? No excuses for that.

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Anonymous #1 1w

That’s the bigger issue. I know why the pull out method is bs cause I was taught about it. But for a lot of people if they don’t feel themselves finishing inside someone they think they’re safe 😬

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Anonymous OP 1w

“Slipping up”? If sex is that casual for people they should not be surprised when they get pregnant I mean it’s basic human biology. Realistically, people shouldn’t have sex with people without considering the possibility of having a child with them. I know I still said should lol but I have no sympathy for the idiots who get pregnant before planning to or getting married. It’s not an accident, it’s bringing a living human being into this world because of their own selfish actions.

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Anonymous #2 1w

I don’t think that level of black and white thinking is super helpful tbh. If you applied that logic perfectly only like 10% of people would ever be able to have sex at all cause even married couples don’t always want kids, kids right now, or more kids. Again I’m not pro unprotected sex, but I’m not gonna call someone an idiot over genuine human error if they’re usually taking precautions.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Yes that’s the point not everyone should be having sex!! And definitely not everyone should have kids.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Well no your point is that the VAST MAJORITY of people shouldn’t be having sex and that almost all people should be abstinent even if they’re married or in long term relationships. And if they do have sex they’re an idiot if it leads to an unplanned pregnancy.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Well no, that wasn’t my point. My personal opinion is that you shouldn’t have sex unless you’re married. I get that’s unrealistic for most, so if I stretch a bit more, it may include unmarried people who want to have children. If I stretch as far as I can go, it is long term couples who are in love and plan to get married or be together for years. But the act of having sex itself should not be taken lightly and thus if you do and get pregnant, you lack foresight and emotional intelligence.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Well the implication is that anyone who doesn’t explicitly want kids in a given moment shouldn’t have sex and even people in long term relationships or who are married who don’t want kids/more kids should be abstinent. Cause even people who use contraception can get pregnant. Anyone who has unprotected sex even once or misuses contraception by accident is an idiot that lacks foresight and emotional intelligence. And you have no sympathy for anyone who gets pregnant without planning to.

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Anonymous #2 1w

I’m not saying people shouldn’t take sex seriously, use protection, or that all casual sex is good. The language you’re using around it is just pretty extreme and has implications that would affect married couples too. I’m wording that comment the way I am to highlight that.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Sex isn’t just for having children, yes I get that. But that IS its biological function. I’m very pro married sex lol. Ofc if they don’t want kids, they must use protection accordingly. Ppl having sex who don’t want kids are voluntarily taking that risk. I sympathize with the child being brought into this world without proper planning, not so much the parents. I get that my viewpoint may seem extreme, but to me casual sex and the unexpected pregnancy rates are extreme.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Also I did say in my post that people in long term relationships having sex isnt the same as casual sex, even if they don’t want kids. But yes, if they misuse contraception or have unprotected sex “just that once” and get pregnant, it’s like what did they expect? I’d really like to think that irl im very nonjudgmental with my friends who have sex lmao

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Anonymous #2 1w

I don’t disagree with much of that, esp the risks with sex in general. It was the phrasing in earlier comments and its implications I was replying to. I don’t know if it’s effective at addressing the “extremes” you’re concerned about. Unprotected sex esp is a gamble. However, for me someone making that gamble once doesn’t stop me from empathizing with them if it goes wrong or make me assume bad things to insult their overall character. So we just won’t agree on that, which is what it is.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Sex in a committed relationship is quite literally the opposite of casual sex. If that’s the only condition where people have sex, unexpected pregnancy rates would marginally decrease. I’m not sure what is ineffective about that. I suppose my phrasing in earlier comments was a bit negative, but most people that get unexpectedly pregnant aren’t just making the gamble one time. I think we agree on a lot of things and have both offered each other new perspectives so thank you for your intellect :)

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Anonymous #2 1w

Yeah I think because we were talking about so many things at once our intents got muddled. My comment about effectiveness wasn’t targeted at your views on casual, noncommittal sex but the tone you were using in earlier posts about people’s emotional intelligence or sympathy. Those kinds of things specifically wouldn’t address the issues you see since insulting someone usually won’t convince them to value your views lol

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Anonymous #2 1w

Like my initial comments were acknowledging the role human error can play in unplanned pregnancy even while using protection and then it turned into you talking about views on casual sex so what we were each addressing got a bit confusing

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Anonymous #4 1w

Someone who’s intentionally planning to have a kid isn’t gonna abort or put them up for adoption. That’s not the point of the post. It’s about someone planning TO HAVE and KEEP kids they know they can’t care for properly aka shit parents.

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Anonymous OP 1w

And what gives us the right to determine who can care for kids or not? Maybe all it takes is for someone to try their best. Even if the kid doesn’t have the best living conditions, I like thinking that they matter

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Anonymous OP 1w

Plus I was born at a bad time in my parents’ lives. I couldn’t be more glad that they kept me though

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Anonymous #4 1w

You’re missing the part where I said PLANNING and KNOW you WON’T/CAN’T take care of. This isn’t about the subjectivity of WHO can care for kids or people who ended up pregnant and stepped up.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Remove your personal bias before you type. The post is talking about parents who don’t care about kids going through and having kids and then being the caretaker of the kid or lack of care taker for better words. You don’t even know wtf you’re commenting about.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’ll say it again: “give them up for adoption?” Nah actually let’s just kill them because they’ll be an inconvenience

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Anonymous #5 1w

Buddy that’s what social workers are for. If a kid is going to be mistreated or uncared for that doesn’t mean they just shouldn’t get to live at all

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Anonymous #4 1w

Why would someone abort a kid they knowingly wanted to have or put them up for adoption? 😩

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Anonymous #5 1w

An emotionally abusive or neglectful parent isn’t gonna put a kid up for adoption. At best they’re gonna get CPS called on them.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Like why would you argue for bad parents to INTENTIONALLY get pregnant so they can put the kid up for adoption instead of just practicing safe sex so there’s no pregnancy at all?

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Anonymous #4 1w

hey darling this post is not about abortion. it’s about how shitty parents should stop trying to have kids. you might want to check up on your reading comprehension skills.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Baby…no one mentioned abortion.

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Anonymous #4 1w

You do realize pregnancy literally changes the woman’s body permanently and comes with SEVERE health risks? Abortion is more than just “I don’t want kids”, it’s also “I don’t want my body to be changed or have a health risk” by what’s honestly an easily preventable condition. And sex is a right everyone deserves considering it’s more than just a baby making ritual, it’s a personable and intimate connection with someone that occurs regardless of a pregnancy occurring because of it

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Anonymous #9 1w

“Accidental pregnancies” really come down to people who; tried using contraceptives but used them incorrectly (education issue), didn’t know about contraceptives (education issue), didn’t care about contraceptives (asking for the responsibility). Is it really the majority of people’s faults for having accidental pregnancies when it’s clear the majority of them were preventable in the first place with what the left has been pushing this whole time, better education?

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Anonymous #9 1w

I literally forgot the people who used contraceptives but they didn’t work (unlucky), the most important one 🫠

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Anonymous #2 1w

I mean there’s no method of prevention with a 100% guarantee of preventing a pregnancy. Unless you just abstained, and who tf wants to do that?

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Anonymous #4 1w

I mean, I don’t think anyone’s saying the poor shouldn’t have children, my mom was poor as shit for a lot of my childhood, had to rob my piggy bank for groceries multiple times and whatnot, but what mattered was that she was there and would’ve done anything to ensure that I had it better than she did when I reached her age. If you can’t make that kind of commitment, you shouldn’t have kids regardless of your socioeconomic class.

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