Anonymous #1 1w

what’s the context then

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Anonymous #1 1w

Please share the rest of the quote and its context then, I’m quite curious

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 1w

He says sympathy is a better word because no one can feel another persons pain. Which is just…wrong? You can relate to someone’s pain especially if it’s similar to something you went through. Hence why support groups exist. Also saying empathy is a new age term is wrong 🤦‍♀️ I guarantee so many people posting the second part of his quote have said they’re empaths before and are only switching up now because of him.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Oh okay, I see. I definitely agree the quote is still entirely wrong, and neither the context nor the second half of the quote really seems to make anything better

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Anonymous #4 1w

I agree, but also the empathy quote is the about the lamest thing of his someone could choose to pick apart. I wanna see these idiots try to pick apart his directly quoted shit abt gun violence and black women people stupid

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Anonymous #5 1w

Yeah I mean I’ve heard the empathy quote but I honestly thought the post was talking about how some deaths to gun violence every year are necessary or whatever

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 1w

Looking back, I see that too. I thought the main quote circulating was the empathy one and just assumed. Totally my bad. If anyone wants to learn more about why people don’t support him, I’d highly recommend looking at roguednc’s post about it. It’s the twelfth row down, third post (on the right). It really put things into perspective for me as I hadn’t heard much of him until this. It goes through a lot of the things he’s said about gun violence, slavery, women, etc.

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Anonymous #1 1w

even within context, that doesn’t help make his quotes sound any better.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Thanks for the tip, I’ll definitely look into it

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 1w

Or go to @notice.news on insta, third post. I implore you to take 3 mins out of your day and watch the reel. It’s a compilation of Charlie’s “greatest hits”, if you will. Gives you all of some of the worst shit that man spouted

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Anonymous #5 1w

I just looked at this myself and holy shit. I hadn’t even seen these yet. Thank you for sharing.

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Anonymous #5 1w

https://www.instagram.com/share/_2hWLtCfO

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Anonymous #5 1w

I just watched through this and the one #4 mentioned. I’d seen a couple clips of him speaking before, nothing crazy, and I already didn’t like the guy. But holy shit that man was genuinely a fucking monster. I can absolutely understand why people are happy with what happened

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Anonymous #4 1w

Very odd to wish death upon someone for mixing up empathy and sympathy

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Anonymous #8 1w

Literally never said I wanted him to die or wished death upon him so I’m really wondering where you got this from? I disagree with everything he’s said but I don’t think he deserved to die at all. Where did you get this from, genuinely?

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Anonymous #8 6d

😭 he didn’t mix up shit he was a political figure who thought empathy made people soft, so following his wishes I have no empathy for him and think “aww poor lil fellah” when I think about him. He was a pos so why would I care he got Kirked?

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Anonymous #10 6d

The whole quote mentioned sympathy in a positive light. He was against empathy because he viewed it as an impossible emotion to feel. You cannot feel exactly what others feel. But sympathy is good, and it is possible. Feel for others. You clearly are someone with infinite empathy but zero sympathy.

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Anonymous #1 6d

I hate to break it to you friend, but empathy is in fact a real thing, one which is entirely possible to feel. I recommend watching the video on empathy vs sympathy by brene brown if you haven’t, it explains both empathy and sympathy, as well as the differences between the two, quite well. Plus #4 had a great explanation of it as well above, you should read that

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Anonymous #1 6d

I love how y’all pretend the full quote makes it any better when it does not 🤣

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Anonymous #9 6d

Most likely the one about empathy, that’s the one we’ve been debating on above. But I’d say it could also apply to his quote on how deaths to gun violence every year are necessary

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

Do you understand the full context of the gun deaths quote?

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Anonymous #9 6d

Yeah, that it didn’t matter to him how many kids were shot up in schools.

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Anonymous #7 6d

False. I can’t get the full quote in context to paste so I’m trying to post screenshots.

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Anonymous #9 6d

De do not care

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Anonymous #9 6d

Please do, I’d like to see what context could possibly make that quote better

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

Posted below.

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Anonymous #9 6d

Yup just what we all knew it was about. Doesn’t change anything 🤣

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

Like it or not, quoted wildly out of context to make him look worse than his takes were. He does not say “children in schools”. Gun deaths in general.

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Anonymous #9 6d

Including children in schools

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Anonymous #9 6d

Yeah, still doesn’t make it any better.

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Anonymous #9 6d

I don’t feel the context really helps matters here. Having the solution be armed guards everywhere, including in and around schools, is more dystopian than anything. He’s acting like everyone should be constantly afraid, and we need to defend ourselves from some unknown domestic force. He’s using an innate human fear of the unknown to disguise the fact he’s arguing that the children dying in school shootings are a necessary loss. I vehemently disagree

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

We know that his approach makes things MORE dangerous.

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

That’s just where personal politics comes into play… I’d feel much safe knowing a gunman is deterred by an armed guard and will be defeated by one. I also think there’s a difference in “acting like everyone should be afraid” and being smart in today’s world… we’re students of color afraid or smart last week when they didn’t come to class after those AWFUL threats? He again dosent bring up children dying at all in the quote so not sure where that’s coming from or where you can be deciphering that

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

He quite literally also says we need to have reductionist view on gun control, not a utopian one (one where seemingly your suggesting where we shouldn’t be at all alert about the things that can and do happen in today’s world)

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

Another great example of the armed guards situation. When those threats were made to our student body, what was the response? To flood the campus w cops !( carrying rifles looking imposing and almost “dystopian” as you might call it. There isn’t another response that ensures safety while at school. That’s just where things are going in today’s world of crazy people killing innocents.

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Anonymous #9 6d

I’m not sure what happened at your school, I don’t go there, but I’m sorry you had to experience that. I understand what you’re getting at with being smart in today’s world, there’s a lot going on that is cause for concern, I agree with you there. But it seems to me he’s trying to suggest that there is some opposing force embedded in our society that’s trying to rise up, which would obviously cause people to be afraid and distrust one another. THAT is where he’s trying to inspire fear, and

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

that’s where it goes beyond just being smart. Plus, if these people who make these kinds of threats had significantly more limited access to guns, it would be much less of an issue. Also, he doesn’t need to specifically mention children for it to matter here. He’s saying the annual gun deaths are necessary. That includes those children who die in school shootings. Just because he’s not saying that doesn’t mean it isn’t there. Next, your point about the reductionist approach. Saying that those

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

deaths are necessary isn’t really taking a reductionist approach. It’s saying ah well, it is what it is and we can’t change it, I’d rather be able to own a gun than prevent the deaths of others. Truly taking a reductionist approach would mean to eliminate as many of those gun deaths as possible. Which, he claims in the quote not to know how to do, although most other countries in the world do it just fine. I’m not by any means saying we shouldn’t be aware of what’s going on in the world, I’m

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

OOPS didn’t realize this wasn’t my college yy. Most colleges in Florida and all the HBCUs received threats against black students.

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

actually arguing the opposite. It’s important to see and learn for yourself what’s going on, and how we might be able to solve it, either as a people or through our own representatives in office. Finally, I agree that a significant police response to a threat like that is absolutely important, but having that police presence there 24/7 isn’t the solution to the problem. Reduced or eliminated access to firearms would significantly reduce the likelihood and number of those threats

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

Not sure what you mean by opposing force rising up? If you’re referring to a “revolution” of sorts, look no further than Nepal. A third world country is overturned in a few days. America if ever in the same situation would not be able to do that w out guns.

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Anonymous #9 6d

Oh okay yeah, see I hadn’t heard about that, and it’s genuinely awful that people had to and continue to have to go through something like that

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

His reductionist approach is yet again not set in a utopian world. How can we possibly get rid of guns at this point in America? He’s all for better background checks and making sure gun owners are not psychos. You can’t compare other countries to America when it comes to guns.

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Anonymous #9 6d

He suggests in the quote you posted that we need access to guns to defend ourselves and rise up against some tyrannical government. Which, even just in mentioning it, suggests that this is an imminent possibility, and is encouraging people to distrust one another out of fear they are somehow a part of this tyranny

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

“Reduce (not eliminated) access to firearms would significantly reduce the likelihood of threats” something Charlie probably also said 😐

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

Ok so CNN and left politicians calling Trump the end of democracy or Hitler or a dictator of America isn’t counterintuitive to that? I mean the left LOVES to say America’s doomed w the president we have , I’d think they’d be all for Charlie’s stance on guns.

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Anonymous #9 6d

Neither is mine set in a utopian world. It’s set in a world where people don’t have to be afraid of getting shot and killed just going to work or school, and also don’t have to be afraid of extensive police or armed presence around them at all times. Which given our history of prejudice in law enforcement, is entirely a valid fear. I think better background checks is a great first step, and none of this will happen overnight, but it’s a goal we can work towards. If its been done elsewhere, it

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

Can be done here. They are absolutely comparable. Also, come on man, “something Charlie probably also said”? How is that any kind of argument

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

Look at France every other year, Nepal literally RIGHT NOW. Governments overstep, fail and can be revolted upon. America knew this years before the rest and put it in the constitution. We literally revolted in England and used guns to do it.

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

The amount of sheer LEGAL guns in America trumps other countries, ILLEGAL guns is even worse. They are absolutely not comparable. The UK has stabbings not shootings. And not because they don’t have a gun problem, they don’t have guns! We are too far passed that point. Guns out number people in America. Saying to just get rid of them is silly.

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

How is that any argument? You’re arguing with me abt a dead man’s beliefs and agreeing with him on the very topic?

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Anonymous #9 6d

Just because people believe that, doesn’t mean they believe murder or revolution is the solution. There are many solutions based in peace and cooperation. Yes, governments fail. I’d even go so far as to say our government is currently failing. But without better gun control, people do shit like what happened to Charlie himself, and that is by no means the way to solve our problems as a country

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

There is quite literally a huge portion of the left who would revolt violently against the current president. Calling for his head. Celebrated when he was shot. Same w Charlie. How can you say they want peaceful resolution?

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

That also goes to show, how bad the propaganda is. When Hitler was in power, WE WANTED HIM DEAD. If you compare Trump to Hitler, would you also not want the same ? Or is it that he’s just a conservative and calling him Hitler gets clicks views and drives narratives?

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Anonymous #9 6d

Honestly? I said it above and I’ll say it again, I can absolutely understand why. People are afraid, and people like Charlie and our current president are saying and doing things to make them feel as such. That doesn’t mean I agree with it. The same could be said about a significant portion of republicans. Like the one who shot Charlie, or those who participated in Jan 6. It’s not okay on either side

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

You can understand why they’d want violence but claim they wouldn’t want violence in a revolt? I’m confused… Shooter was NOT Republican 🤣 get off blue sky. No Republican knows Bella ciao enough to put it on a murder kit.

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Anonymous #9 6d

Hitler personally killed millions on millions of people. If trump goes that far (which many are concerned he will, that’s why they say things of that nature) I’d agree that the world would be better off without him in it. I’m personally of the belief that that particular avenue should be a very last case scenario

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Anonymous #9 6d

I’m saying there are some, and their views are understandable in my opinion, but I’d argue that they are the loud minority, and most people would rather avoid a violent revolt if possible. Look, at the end of the day, we’re different people with different opinions and perspectives. Agree to disagree. I appreciate you taking the time to have a civil conversation with me, but I’ve gotta go catch a flight

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Anonymous perry_theplatypus 6d

That’s what Charlie stood for in life. I can only honor his wishes in death. 🙏🏻

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Anonymous #12 6d

That’s exactly what it is.

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Anonymous #12 6d

I tried to read this sentence but it’s pretty butchered

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Anonymous #9 6d

My autocorrect did not want me to type that man’s name😭

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Anonymous #12 6d

Yea that’s the issue… “has only have”?

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Anonymous #9 6d

Yeah ignore that “has” 😭 anyway… Charlie has you guys looking a mess

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Anonymous #12 6d

I think it’s more concerning your watching videos of people masturbating to stuff like that… wtf side of the internet are you on? That is NOT the general population of turning point supporters.

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Anonymous #9 6d

You say it’s not the general pop but…

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Anonymous #12 6d

It’s quite literally not… have you ever talked to a turning point member or supporter ?

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Anonymous #9 6d

They are god fearing Christian’s who would probably get very uncomfortable at you even suggesting the fact they would even think abt something like that.

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Anonymous #9 6d

They kinda blow tbh

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Anonymous #9 6d

Yeah, the ones loudly proclaiming they’re “god fearing Christians” are always the ones I feel the least safe around.

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Anonymous #7 6d

Turn to god

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Anonymous #9 6d

You’re part of movement of people who were turned on by the George Floyd video and post videos on Twitter of them masturbating to it? What does God think of the people you’re associated with

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Anonymous #12 6d

Yet again have never even heard of these diabolical videos and if they exist they are by no means apart of what I stand for or Charlie Kirk.

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Anonymous #9 6d

Which one? The white-washed, gun toting, minority hating one? Or the one that learned that being a POS wasn’t cool and spreading kindness, not violence, was better? Or which of the tens of thousands of other ones?

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Anonymous #7 6d

Whichever one keeps you from fantasizing abt people masturbating to disturbing videos…

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Anonymous #9 6d

Don’t be shy, look them up lol. You’ll see the captions talking about they love “seeing n words in their place” and #maga. It’s very odd how you’re not telling them to turn to Jesus. It’s cool though we know how much people like Charlie respect the dead:

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Anonymous #12 6d

Charlie, Christian’s and the general right do not condone this shit 🤣. This is what lost the left the election. You think people who disagree on a few things are the same shooting up this sign and jackin off to videos of atrocities.

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Anonymous #9 6d

But you do condone it, which is why you’re spending your time worrying about what “leftists” are doing and telling us to find God instead of checking your own movement lol You give zero pushback to the bigotry coming from inside your own house lmao

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Anonymous #12 6d

This, this is the key bit that so many people don’t understand

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Anonymous #9 6d

If y’all aren’t shooting up signs and voting to remove discrimination protections from minorities, you’re instead doing the “George Floyd challenge” like the POSs you are.

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Anonymous #12 6d

You know nothing Jon snow.

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Anonymous #12 6d

As a party republicans could do better on cleaning up house for sure. Racism dosent have a place anywhere in my America. Where is the pushback against political violence from the left?

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Anonymous #9 6d

There isn’t much to pushback on considering between 2022 and 2024, 100% of politically motivated murders were committed by right wing extremists, and in 2021, 90% were…

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Anonymous #7 6d

Half these people picture don’t look old enough to vote. They are also not representative of the general pop of republicans? I could pull up just any person celebrating Kirk’s death and make the same point.

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Anonymous #9 6d

They are representative of the general population of conservatives though… look at the demographics of who votes for conservatives

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Anonymous #12 6d

Right so all white men in America are racist and think like those in the picture? Every single one of them? So then this man committing a literal hate crime must represent how all black men feel abt white women?

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Anonymous #9 6d

Isn’t he schizophrenic?😭 You need to bust out of mental patient to do a false equivalence tells me you know you’re in the wrong. Just sit down atp

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Anonymous #12 6d

He’s one of just many examples I could pull and my point still stands. You think just bc a few people look alike all people who look like that think the same ?

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Anonymous #9 6d

“Where did we go wrong? How could this have happened? We need more guns…”

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Anonymous #7 6d

Families showing trigger discipline 🙌🏻 Taught well.

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Anonymous #9 6d

And if a Black family did this, you’d be calling for the death penalty, I’m sure.

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Anonymous #9 6d

Your point does not stand lol One is a choice being made to be a bigot, and also vote Republican, and one is a psychiatric abnormality

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Anonymous #4 5d

This isn’t even the full quote still!!

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Anonymous #7 5d

How doesn’t it? He’s still just as wrong but is actual point is totally benign

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Anonymous #12 5d

Both of you are arguing over things a very very small minority of each side does. I used to think only a small minority of the left did that kind of shit, except now I see half of them celebrating the death of someone for his views which I happen to largely share.

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Anonymous #8 5d

Not mourning≠celebrating.

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Anonymous #9 4d

Every single republican voted to keep the Epstein files sealed except 2. The republican president pushed for the repupublican leaning Supreme Court to legalize racial profiling AND THEY DID. Tell me again how the “general right doesn’t condone this shit”?

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Anonymous #15 4d

All 47 dems and 2 reps wanted it released.

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Anonymous #8 4d

That’s why you’re quiet about Nia Wilson

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