Anonymous #2 3w

as you should king

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Anonymous #3 3w

I mean people say they hate white people all the time and idgaf bc I know I’m not racist and I know they’re just upset bc dealing with racists all day is exhausting and emotionally draining

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Anonymous OP 3w

So if I were to say “I hate women” because all the girls I’ve dated were cheaters or gold diggers, or because most of the women I’ve encountered were rude, you wouldn’t have a problem with it

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Anonymous #3 3w

see here’s where you’re not understanding. men already hate women and make it very clear. we live in a patriarchy. EVERYTHING punishes women for the benefit of men. women are already seen as less than compared to men so “I hate women” is a fuckass statement. punching up is a reaction to being mistreated. punching down makes you a pos

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Anonymous OP 3w

You think the average man created the patriarchy? 😹 and I won’t deny the patriarchy still exists to an extent, but you’re really exaggerating, sorry 🤷‍♂️ there is no punching up or punching down in this context, it’s just men and women who have had bad experiences with each other

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Anonymous #3 3w

did I say the average man created the patriarchy? or are you taking it that way bc you’re upset? EVERY man benefits from the patriarchy and, let’s be honest with ourselves, majority of men aren’t willing to give up the benefits they get from the patriarchy. there is very much punching up and punching down in our society. there are women who get upset with misogyny and say “men suck” and then there are men who get upset about feminism and kill women and those are really just what statistics say

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Anonymous #3 3w

i really have nothing more to say to you and will not waste more time explaining this simple concept to you. if you don’t already understand how the patriarchy harms women for men’s benefit and how that puts women at a disadvantage then idk what to tell you other than that’s extremely concerning.

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Anonymous OP 3w

That’s all true. But it’s aside from the point. If women get to say “I hate men” and be openly misandrist, don’t be surprised when men feel resentful towards them. Bare in mind a lot of incels are incels because women act like that (not justifying incel behavior but it’s a fact).

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Anonymous #5 3w

"well these boys should know better" no, sadly they dont, and that's the problem. they learn from everything they see around them

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Anonymous #5 3w

I’ll use the example I used before. if someone says they hate white people, that doesn’t make me want to be racist. it makes me want to find out WHY they’re saying that so I can better myself. men have always been misogynistic, that’s just the truth. literally owning their wives, beating them was the norm, etc. women finally reacting and responding to this treatment is not making men become misogynistic it’s just giving them an excuse to justify their behavior

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Anonymous OP 3w

I see what you’re trying to say, but that’s not really how that works in almost all cases. If the goal is for men to learn about the issue and “better themselves”, talk about issues directly. Yes, “I hate men” might be in response to patriarchal norms, but it is in no way fighting back or making progress in their dismantling. In no world can you argue that the sentiment is unifying between genders rather than divisive.

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Anonymous OP 3w

to make change we fight ideas, not people. Hating men does about as much for the patriarchy as hating white people does for racism. In both cases, that’s very little, besides fanning the flames of tribalism. I understand the reasoning behind why people feel that way and the need to vent frustrations. But expressions of hate certainly aren’t helpful in dissolving hate.

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Anonymous #3 3w

I mean tbh I’m not a fan of it but like it’s just people saying nonsense so I don’t actually care

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Anonymous OP 3w

Nah I love women that’s just me tho

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Anonymous OP 3w

So that makes what there saying acceptable?

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Anonymous #3 3w

no. women won’t interact with them BECAUSE they act like that. the “male loneliness epidemic” is self inflicted and will continue to be so until men learn to take accountability for their actions and stop blaming women.

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Anonymous OP 3w

Again, that’s besides the point. If it’s not okay for men to say “I hate women”, it’s not okay for women to say “I hate men”. Simple

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