Anonymous #1 7w

So like if I liked this guy from my job, did I fumble by not approaching? I just figured he would’ve made more effort if he did like me

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Anonymous OP 7w

Prolly did fumble it

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Anonymous OP 7w

You probably fumbled it

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Anonymous #3 7w

I feel they are valid to a certain extent because the idea was to avoid embarrassment. I’m not a conventionally attractive girl and I feel like men can be very harsh when rejecting girls.

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Anonymous amethystpopcorn 7w

Can you explain to me why they’re out of touch? I genuinely wanna know the other side to this

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Anonymous OP 7w

this mindset is treating men as if they are a completely different species than women. its stupid to think that the doubt and anxiety that stops you from shooting your shot is exclusive to women. men experience human experiences as well

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Anonymous #6 7w

I actually didn’t. This is the opposite of what I thought y’all would say 😭

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Anonymous OP 7w

I don't trust anything off of TikTok

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Anonymous OP 7w

I imagine it’s bc they immerse themselves in an incredibly toxic echo chamber populated mostly by teenage women and those trying to sell them stuff. Girls go on there to vent relationship woes & jaslight themselves with copes/delusions about aspects of dating that are frustrating or inconvenient, and then it’s uncritically absorbed and repeated until it becomes a popular misconception. I mean that in the least contemptuous way possible (ik that’s still kindof a lot lol, sorry)

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Anonymous OP 7w

Not if it’s not too late. Is it?

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Anonymous #7 7w

We follow each other on Instagram so there’s still a chance. I hear what everyone is saying but it’s just hard to have confidence when you know you’re not the most desirable, you know?

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Anonymous OP 7w

If you ain’t confident in yourself then fake it till you make it

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Anonymous OP 7w

I know all too well. Im a guy. None of us are the most desirable. We know we’re swinging for the fences every time we try & the odds are always against us. But if we give up, we go extinct. Rejection sucks, but its better than chickening out, because then youve still been rejected: but worse bc it’s by yourself. If you dont want to fuck yourself why would anyone else? Thats something to feel bad about. But getting rejected by someone else? That’s life. It’s nothing to fear. U got this👍

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Anonymous OP 7w

“The idea is to avoid embarrassment” “men can be very harsh when rejecting girls” ???? You know this goes the other way around too??

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Anonymous #7 7w

Comparing 4chan to TikTok is wild af. They aren't remotely the same 😭

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Anonymous #12 7w

They’re about as similar and different as men and women. It’s a misinformation and propaganda packed cesspit with traffic direction algorithms aggressively hell bent on glamorizing, normalizing, and aggravating every exploitable character flaw commonly associated with women. Much in the same way 4chan is largely a men-enshittifying machine. That’s a perfectly appropriate comparison. It’s not any less true just because it’s a tough pill to swallow

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Anonymous #11 7w

It does. Thank you for being nice. I didn’t expect this reaction from the masses. It wasn’t my intention to imply that men don’t have emotions or fears; I was genuinely trying to understand another perspective to this. I made effort to show interest where I could but perhaps I need to be more explicit 😅

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Anonymous #7 7w

Okay, so I looked it up. Tik tok is ~46% women and ~53% are men. https://explodingtopics.com/blog/tiktok-demographics I couldn't find a credible source for 4chan statistics.

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Anonymous #12 7w

I don’t need one, 100% men

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Anonymous #7 7w

I get what you're saying, but I don't think Tik Tok is as big of a misinformation propaganda cesspit as 4chan is. Simply because of how close the gender statistic is and how much wider the range of ages, cultures, countries, etc are on Tik Tok as opposed to 4chan. You can completely avoid ever seeing anything like even vaguely related to OPs post. My fyp is literally comedy skits, movies reviews, grwms, day in the life of ppl who r in my career field etc etc.

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Anonymous #12 7w

I haven't ever been on 4chan so idk how it works but I doubt that it has that diverse selection of content. Tik tok has recipes, gym tips, finance tips, college tips, fashion tips, hair care tips. A lot of good information lives on that app, have you heard of the tik toker Dollar Tree Dinners? Her page has helped me feed myself when i'm tight on cash. I just don't think its fair to compare two since one has so much more content than the other and the algorithms work entirely differently.

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Anonymous #12 7w

this isn't to say there isn't any misinformation at all on tik tok but it's not an overwhelming majority if it was as you described then i wouldn't use it all and i think the popularity of the app is proof that it isn't since from my knowledge 4chan was never all that popular. things become popular for a reason

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Anonymous #12 7w

Even assuming that was representative of actual usage (as opposed to business accounts or something being setup en masse by men, for instance), it’s not relevant to my point bc the subject matter of the most irresponsible and exploitative content is overwhelmingly targeted to women. (Again, they have other platforms if they need more blackpilled male psychopaths.) Have you ever dated a heavy TikTok abuser? You’ll see what I mean (and also my heart goes out to you in advance in the event you do)

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Anonymous #12 7w

Really? That is interesting. I’ll have to take your word on it bc my hazmat suit’s at the cleaners. I don’t know any men who are on TikTok so Idk what’s available to us. I’ve only seen what it shows women and THAT does not exactly endear me to the platform Though I’d also point out even that doesn’t distinguish it from 4chan. 4chan has a lot of innocent content too; it’s just that nobody cares about it bc every time normal ppl talk about 4chan it’s the cesspit part doing something unhinged.

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Anonymous #7 7w

I found multiple sources all had the breakdown down relatively close to each other so i'm assuming that it's roughly half women/men. I'm a women and the content you are speaking of has never reached me or my mom or aunts, or girl friends.🤷‍♀️ Again i'm not disagreeing with you that it's there but it's definitely avoidable. You are responsible for your own for you page, its based on the post you interact with like everyone social media platform is. What do you mean by "heavy tik tok abuser"

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Anonymous #7 7w

Yes, since we are in a recession I do recommend checking out Dollar Tree Dinners, she's a single mom working to feed her family by making videos abt how to make a full meal based on groceries you can get at dollar tree. Tik Tok doesn't just have innocent content, it has educational content too. I learned how to sew by watching a series of tik toks, and it's also really helped improve my cooking skills, and my work out routine.

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Anonymous #12 7w

it's also a great place for creativity people literally write entire seasons worth of shows and act them out all by themselves 😭 one of my favorites is Bistro Huddy which was started bc a man and his wife meet while being severs at a restaurant and now they've created a whole cast of characters based on that experience.

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Anonymous #12 7w

By heavy TikTok abuser I mean when they’re doomscrolling constantly and show very heavy and noticeable symptoms of the combination of “buy this crap!”, “all women are prostitutes, all men are transactions”, and ‘Fareinheit 451 style monologue’ (where an influencer says the most wildly false statements imaginable in rapid succession without exploring any of them so you might as well roll with it if you want to understand her point before the next clip plays)’ content genres

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Anonymous #7 7w

And note: all of these content types tend to spread relationship-sabotaging intel about men a lot (a LOT a lot). So even were I aware TikTok HAS significant amounts of anything else, it still seems fair to infer from her question that her TT experience has largely been like mine

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Anonymous #7 7w

Your experience is valid but it's harmful to make a generalization that everyone on a platform with 1.6 billion people are having the exact same experience you are. Again like I said eariler you're responsible for your own algorithm. If you see something you don't like or it seems suspicious, tik tok gives you the option to choose "not interested" or do what you've chosen to do and not use the app.

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Anonymous #12 7w

I was just saying it's wrong to think of Tik Tok and 4chan as two sides of the same coin because they aren't. Tik Tok isn't even a coin, it's like a 50 dollar bill. Plus does 4chan even exist anymore?? Wasn't it so bad it got shut down or something idk. I'm just saying that while ur opinion is valid doesn't mean ppl should think of TT the way they do 4chan

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Anonymous #12 7w

Sure, just because I’ve never personally observed someone with a wholesome tiktok feed doesn’t mean it’s impossible, I realize that. But remember what your original point was, because now you’re making arguments that could just as easily apply to 4chan. But you took issue with the comparison between the two platforms. But thus far it’s still just as reasonable to demonize one as the other, and for much the same reasons

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Anonymous #7 7w

You and 1 are so right and this was such a good way to put this. I had to fake confidence for a couple months before it started sticking, but when it did my overall viewpoint on life/relationships changed completely. I also have a lot of notes lol and this is legitimately #1 on this one :)

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Anonymous #12 7w

in the context of a guy you are friends with or interact with a lot and you have developed a crush on him, i would still definitely shoot your shot. good men won't want to make a women uncomfortable so if he likes you back then he'll agree. if he doesn't then he'll hopefully be honest. in my experience even if he doesn't like you he still might try it out and see.

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Anonymous #13 7w

I had faked it for so long no one can tell me nothin

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Anonymous #12 7w

TikTok is literally 4chan for women. 4chan has misogynistic incels, tiktok had misandrist incels. Both groups are hateful and sexist. Very much so the same thing but gender swapped.

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Anonymous #14 7w

Not too much. It was said to protect women not to villainize men

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Anonymous OP 6w

Get a cry out and move on is what I did. Had a guy lead me on for months just to use me to cheat with another girl none of our friends even knew about, dude didn’t even tell me, found out from the roommate that he was off on a date. If someone is rude or cowardly with their rejection, they were never worth the time of day to begin with.

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