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Why do men NOT date to marry? Do yall not see the benefits of it??
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Anonymous 3w

Many do

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Anonymous 3w

I learned how to make my own banana bread🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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Anonymous 3w

I’ve always heard men marry the women in front of them when they’re ready to marry. I’ve also seen the absolute hellhole that men suffer from visiting rights to their kids when the divorce goes south, so there’s reasons men are hesitant to marry.

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Anonymous 3w

Some do, but just can’t find dates, or are afraid of divorce. But yes there definitely are a lot of dudes that don’t want that anymore.

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Anonymous 3w

I think there’s only a small population of us men left who do in fact date to marry

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Anonymous 3w

Actually No. Do you?

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Anonymous 3w

I definitely date to marry

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Anonymous 3w

Well I’m Muslim, so I don’t really even date in the popular sense, but the whole point of getting to know someone is to see if you two are right for marriage—and if you are, promptly getting married. Marriage is sacred and the foundation of healthy families. We are social creatures, and having companionship is essential for us to flourish and have peace in our lives. It can have its own challenges at times, but challenges are necessary for growth

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Anonymous 3w

I do, it’s just many nowadays don’t. Unfortunately really

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Anonymous 3w

I‘m not sure I wanna live w/ somebody

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Anonymous 3w

i do 😭😭

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Anonymous 3w

Personally, marriage is a risk, weighing the tax benefits with the upfront cost. I’m comfortable being “life partners” without some document binding us

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Anonymous 3w

Who says we don’t?

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Anonymous 3w

i date to marry if shes a marryable person

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Anonymous 3w

What do I stand to gain from getting married? Literally nothing

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Anonymous 3w

Honestly, I want to… but every single woman I’ve dated has either cheated on me or not given me a fair chance…. Also, my dating pool is minuscule because I’m 5’4 and 95% of women have an obsession with the 3% of men 6ft and taller…

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 3w

@OP Did you?

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 3w

Is that the only point of marriage?

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 3w

Idk 😭💀. If it isn’t, then what is the point?

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 3w

K, so reassured marriage is bs

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 3w

I mean, it makes sense if ur having kids, but I’m not sure I want kids

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 3w

Honestly asking. What should the pro’s of getting married be?

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 3w

The fact most men are not 6 foot and most men are married proves this to be false. Most men of a certain age at 5’4 in the world are also married, your view is not based in reality

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 3w

Most men who are already married met their spouse and even got married before women got on their 6ft tall BS. That happened within the last ~5 years?..

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 3w

But I have a non muslim friend who holds very diff ideas from myself that doesn’t “date to marry,” & he said the reason is he just wants to enjoy his time w ppl/have new experiences without concrete expectations. I think our culture is generally hedonist, so that coupled with divorce rates and not rly having a strong reason for marriage makes a lot of ppl not prioritize it—especially at our age in college when ppl have other priorities and just want to have fun

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 3w

it's a more solid commitment, and there's legal benefits. and to me it's a way to tell your partner that you want to spend the rest of your life with them, not just be a "long-term" partner

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 3w

I mean I’m 6’5 & I can’t find someone to marry, I’m not blaming that on my height though—I just haven’t found anyone compatible. Meanwhile, my friend who’s 5’6 literally got married 2 weeks ago. Sure most women do like taller men, but they also care a lot less abt height than you think, usually they just want someone taller than them, not 6’+ per se. Some will go for men shorter than them too. I reject the 5yr claim you made, but even if it were true that would mean it’s a temporary phase

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 3w

Also, if all the experiences with women you’ve had have been bad, I’d earnestly recommend you reevaluate and raise your standards to stop going for those type of people. If you tell yourself you’re doomed, you will be doomed—no one likes doomer energy. Most people in the world are under 6’ and I think you’ve got a rly decent chance of finding someone to love and live life with, like your parents, and like countless short people throughout history and its varying circumstances. Keep your head up

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 3w

I’d say it’s actually the dual income that’s the bigger benefit when being married than the taxes. Very few ways to conceivably double your income outside of marriage

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 3w

While I get what you’re saying doesn’t the system you’re describing have its own issues? For example not truly knowing someone very well before marriage or familial pressure to marry specific people? The traditional US system while not as regimented is based on individual choice and has more flexibility

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Anonymous replying to -> #18 3w

I think that’s more of a cultural thing tbh, my parents aren’t pressuring me to marry anyone, & neither did their parents. I have full individual choice to marry anyone I like, just haven’t met that person yet. And you can get to know a person without getting physical with them pretty easily imo, it’s not like you have to marry them a week after meeting lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 3w

Right but you described that you guys don’t date in a traditional sense so are you guys actually traveling, living together, doing things as couples publicly before marriage? Those things help determine compatibility

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Anonymous replying to -> #18 3w

Nah, I think compatibility can be gauged without all that (provided one is pragmatic and emotionally intelligent). Most couples for most of human history did none of those things prior to marriage—and still do none of those things prior to marriage in most of the world. And the method I ascribe to seems to work, I don’t know anyone that’s divorced when following it personally

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 3w

I think traveling with a partner, living with them, and being couples publicly is super common throughout the world

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Anonymous replying to -> #18 3w

Then you haven’t traveled enough tbh, Europe & North America aren’t all there is in the world, western culture with this type of cohabitation thing before marriage is pretty unique, and wasn’t a common thing whatsoever in even this country prior to the 60s

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 3w

I was born in Asia, it’s not uncommon nowadays for people to date more similarly to people in Latin America, Europe, or North America. I think your perspective is based on the Islamic world which is only a fraction and tends to be an outlier on dating. It is a new phenomenon because people don’t get married at 20 anymore at the behest of their families

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Anonymous replying to -> #18 3w

My friend’s grandma in India was marriage was brokered at 8 and she was actually married at 12 in 1950’s

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Anonymous replying to -> #18 3w

It is not. I might be American, but my parents worked for Doctors Without Borders, so I grew up traveling the world till high school. I speak 7 languages and have been to 34 countries, only 8 of which were in the Islamic world (even my grandparents are from a non Muslim majority country). Go to Panyu in Guangzhou and ask literally any shopkeeper how they got married—you won’t hear about any cohabitation prior to marriage, I know bc I hung out w a shopkeeper I met there and got to know his family

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Anonymous replying to -> #18 3w

It is extremely uncommon for most people in Asia to date the same way most people do here, some elites mimic our social trends sure, but the overall populace does not, and by and large adhere to their own local customs

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 3w

Im not muslim but think I can agree with that description (I don’t date like this generation I was born into)

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 3w

Same. Its more like they want a continual bloodline.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 3w

Continual bloodline?

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Anonymous replying to -> #18 3w

Honestly asking, (So please speak personally) how do you date/your cultural influence?

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 3w

Yeah a new family tree branch

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 3w

I still don’t know what you’re referring to ngl, like what were you replying in reference to?

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 3w

The only points of marriage i think would be relevant

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 3w

Oh, sure ig but there’s always the chance you or her could be infertile. I think it’s more about companionship and peace but raising the next generation with someone you trust and love is fs a major reason too

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 3w

For your question: I’m a pretty social person. If I’m interested in a girl, I ask for her father’s number—ideally through an intermediary, but directly if needed—talk to him, and if he approves I talk to her with another person to get to know who she is as a person, her values, life plans, thoughts, general chemistry, lifestyle, expectations, etc. My parents have also set up meetings with ppl they thought I’d like before

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 3w

Hi are you male or female? What makes a marryable person?

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 3w

pretty, honest, supportive, kind, humble, mature

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 3w

Without one deems undesirable?

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