Anonymous #1 4d

Cook

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It’s your own fault if you get someone pregnant

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Anonymous #3 4d

Which means you have to help if your baby is being kept.

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Anonymous #3 4d

Maybe think and put on protection before having sexual intercouse it’s on you if you don’t

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Anonymous #3 4d

It’s partially one persons fault, yes. It takes two. And despite both partners using protection, sometimes accidents do happen.

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Anonymous #1 4d

When two people consent to have sex they are not necessarily consenting to raise a child. Also either partner can wear or not wear protection, idk why you’re saying this is inherently a gender specific thing. When an accident happens and the woman gets pregnant, each partner has to decide if they’re ready to raise a child or not. It’s not a moral failing if either party decides they can’t take care of that child, even if the other decides to keep it

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Anonymous #1 4d

And yes I know the trend is that men run out more often, not denying that or excusing it. I’m just saying it’s not cut and dry “if men don’t want the child / don’t pay then they’re shitty people” not that simple

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Anonymous #1 4d

If accidents happen and you are not ready to get someone pregnant don’t have sexual intercourse

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Anonymous #3 4d

It’s that simple

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Anonymous #3 4d

Same with women if they ain’t ready to be pregnant then they should have sex so why you trynna make it seem like it’s one gender is responsible for a pregnancy

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Anonymous #3 4d

That’s not how it works nor is that a practical way to address any issues. Having protected sex is very safe but not foolproof. You expect to get someone pregnant after protected sex like you expect to get into an accident driving to the grocery store. Which is that you don’t really expect either, you just know that there is a risk.

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Anonymous #1 4d

“Signing up for sex is signing up for raising a child” has been the motto of pro life people for years, it’s what they’ve used to justify removing people’s rights to an abortion. But we know that thought process doesn’t work, which is why abstinence based sex ed doesn’t work. If you say “just don’t have sex” people are going to go have sex anyway, and the problem remains. If you educate people about the risks, provide protection, and have productive conversations about what to do if an

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Anonymous #1 4d

Accident occurs, that’s a real way to fix this problem.

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Anonymous #1 4d

I am liberal and pro choice, but it really is a risk so it’s your own fault if you get somebody pregnant

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Anonymous #3 4d

If they decide to keep the baby it’s your baby. And it’s a big responsibility. You’re gonna have to pay child support or step in and be a father.

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Anonymous mrunknown 4d

Some of them don’t have a choice

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Anonymous #3 4d

What if they are graped and get pregnant

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Anonymous #3 4d

So you’re saying that when a couple decides to have protected sex together and an accident happens resulting in an unexpected pregnancy, it is entirely up to the mother whether both parents devote their life to the child? If the mother doesn’t want the child she can opt out and not help even if the father wants to keep the child, but if the father wants to opt out it’s too bad? How does that make sense?

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Anonymous #3 4d

You keep saying it’s “your fault” as if the pregnancy is purely the result of the man’s actions. It is literally impossible without two people

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Anonymous #1 4d

Well it’s her body so her choice and every time you have sexual intercouse you should know that risk

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Anonymous #3 4d

With respect to abortion yes, I believe that is the woman’s choice. Your post was about childcare / child support obligations though. So you’re saying that when people have protected sex, the woman is always able to decide if she wants to care for the child, pay for the child, or give up the child (leaving the man to pay/support by himself), whereas a man is always required to take care of the child or pay for the child if the mother decides he should? That’s what you’re saying?

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Anonymous #1 4d

I mean if they are the father

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Anonymous #3 4d

It’s part of the risk man.

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Anonymous #3 4d

Ok so even though the mistake is equally the man and the woman’s fault, you believe the woman should be able to dictate how both parties deal with it while the man shouldn’t get to decide how himself or anyone else deals with it? Why is that?

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Anonymous #1 4d

I just feel like it’s hard to defend that position without a little bit of sexism or defending traditional gender roles, which are just societal constructs anyway.

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Anonymous #1 4d

Yes because it’s their body

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Anonymous #3 4d

Again, I’m talking post birth here. Two people have a child that needs to be taken care of or put up for adoption. Because the mother carried the baby you believe the man should have no right to decide what his relationship with this unplanned child is? While the mother can leave the child for the man to take care of and not pay for childcare if she so chooses? How does that make sense?

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Anonymous #3 4d

We weren’t talking about someone being raped we were talking about 2 consenting adults

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Anonymous #1 3d

If the mom walks out and leaves the child with the dad he could either raise it himself or put it up for adoption.

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