Anonymous freestyle 9w

There isn’t bc guys really do not care as much lol.

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Anonymous freestyle 9w

having no ass?

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Anonymous #4 9w

You can get an ass from the gym and eating right

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Anonymous freestyle 9w

Lowkey it’s kinda like a guy saying “I have no biceps”

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Anonymous freestyle 9w

i mean only to an extent but okay, tits then?

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Anonymous #4 9w

Bench press for chest growth ???

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Anonymous oranguru 9w

i dont think the chest growth from working out = bigger tits. its somewhat related, but not as close a link as getting a bigger but from working out

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Anonymous #3 9w

I figured it would be being really tall. But then you have stuff like this…

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Anonymous #6 9w

Sorry I was joking

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Anonymous pirosnake 9w

I don’t think being really tall or really short is bad fir women, they just tend to match up with guys who are as similarly tall or short as they are

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Anonymous #4 9w

The split for men who like small vs big tits is around 50/50 while the split for women who like tall men vs basically anything else is around 75/25

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Anonymous pirosnake 9w

Really tall is crazy cuz the women limit themselves to tall guys but short guys are so ready for her

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Anonymous freestyle 9w

Curviness in women is kinda analogous to muscle mass in men, it’s a trait that signals sexual dimorphism and is nice to have, but it’s not really make or break for anyone’s dating chances. Most guys won’t reject a girl for being to flat nor will most girls reject a guy for not being muscular

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Anonymous freestyle 9w

most women prefer men taller than them not specifically really tall. a 5’6 man will still appeal to ~60% of women (around 75% women will be shorter than him but i’ll subtract some for women who have more specific height preferences) while a woman with small tits will only appeal to 50% of men.

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Anonymous #4 9w

A guy who’s 5’6 CAN appeal to 60% of women if he has everything else dialed in (like Bruno mars or tom holland) but an average guy who’s 6’3 will already appeal to 60% of women

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Anonymous oranguru 9w

you really overestimate the number of women who’ll reject you based on just your height. being 5’11+ is not a make or break either most of the time.

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Anonymous oranguru 9w

yeah and same can be said for big tits? height isn’t the only thing considered ofc you need to be a good partner in other aspects

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Anonymous #4 9w

I agree somewhat, having big boobs or a nice ass can give you a lot of attention that u wouldn’t otherwise have, but a women with aa cups who’s otherwise gorgeous probably wouldn’t be rejected as often as a 5’2 guys who looks like a model.

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Anonymous #4 9w

Of course height is not the only thing, but taller men can get away with more shortcomings

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Anonymous pirosnake 9w

It’s the being really short with no curves bc to men, it makes you look like a child

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Anonymous oranguru 9w

maybe but i don’t think that prevents this from being a reasonable comparison. and is that really such a widespread issue? the % of men who are 5’2 and under is so small that it’s negligible in the u.s. percentile distribution. among them the % that look like a model is even smaller. you’re honing in on an uber specific demographic to support your claim that short men have it difficult, but most short men still have plenty of options because a lot of women will still be shorter than them.

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Anonymous #4 9w

I was just using an extreme hypothetical to draw a contrast. My point was that most men don’t have a thickness requirement, but most women expect a man to be taller than them so it might be harder for a short guy than a flat woman. Even still I’m def not as cynical as some other men about height, just bc women care about looks less and as u said u can just find shorter women

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Anonymous oranguru 9w

i could also say the number of women with small boobs far exceeds the number of men who are that short. so although the individual woman may have a lower likelihood of being rejected than the individual short man, overall it’s likely that the # of women that get rejected for their boobs is still greater than the # of men rejected for their height (bc barely any men are that short anyway). so if we’re speaking on men and women as a whole i still think these things are reasonable to compare

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Anonymous #4 9w

Just because a 5’6 man is taller than a 5’4 woman doesn’t mean he’s going to appeal to her. 9 times outta 10 a woman is going to prefer a tall man over a man that’s just taller than her. Reality is pretty much the taller the better which is just not the case for boob size.

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Anonymous oranguru 9w

anyway my point is just that women get so much flack for the height thing but most men have preferences on uncontrollable physical traits as well. saying men don’t care that much about anything is ignorant

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Anonymous freestyle 9w

yeah that’s why i subtracted 15% for women who are like that, but genuinely most are not. if you talk to actual women you’ll hear that they just want someone taller than them and beyond that they’ll consider other things like personality.

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Anonymous #4 9w

Most women would prob be open to dating a man slightly taller than them if he was unusually handsome and fit and charismatic but the bar would be lower for a really tall guy

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Anonymous #4 9w

Yeah no, I grew up in an area which was damn near a 60:40 female to male ratio. You’re underestimating the amount of superficial women that exist. I’ve talked to many women irl and it doesn’t matter how tall or short they are, a guy who’s tall even among other guys is better than a guy who’s just taller than the girl

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I realize this but I think this has more to do with how clothes fit better on taller and flat bodies, rather than men’s preferences. I am a boob guy so #4a criticisms actually ring true a lil more for me (though I’d never reject someone for being flat)

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Anonymous #3 9w

And men don’t like that?

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Anonymous freestyle 9w

you’re saying they would pick a taller man with a worse personality over a guy that’s still taller than them but better personality? maybe if all else is equal they’ll go for the taller man but all else is never equal. and i would also guess most boob guys would choose a woman with bigger boobs if personality and everything else were equal in the two women.

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Anonymous OP 9w

Can make you self conscious. How would you feel asking someone out who could fit in at a middle school?

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Anonymous #4 9w

Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Obviously it’s also a case by case scenario but you’re definitely able to get away with having a mid (at best) personality as a tall guy than other guys It’s common sense that the more attractive you are, the more bullshit you can pull off (to a degree)

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Anonymous freestyle 9w

*more than

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Anonymous freestyle 9w

okay but then that last part applies for men to women too. unless your argument is that men are overall much less superficial than women, in which case we can agree to disagree bc both of us have different personal experiences and there’s no good way to prove it either way

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Anonymous #4 9w

I think ppl always underrate how superficial their own gender is. It’s nice to believe that all men (or all women) are generous people and value people’s true character, but we really all are just smart apes 🦧 . It might be thrue that women are slightly less superficial than men because of cultural and evolutionary reasons

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Anonymous oranguru 9w

yeah but i’m not saying women are less superficial, i am saying that it’s about equal. my whole point in this discussion was not to deny that women have preferences when it comes to height but to add that men most certainly have preferences on uncontrollable physical attributes as well. if you think fewer men have physical preferences or that their physical preferences are not as strong then as i said we can agree to disagree.

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Anonymous #4 9w

I think we totally agree, I was speaking generally. It is very sad to see how much looks have become prioritized with social media, fortunately (🤞) we will soon have the biotech to look however we want and none of this will matter

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Anonymous #4 9w

No, men are equally as superficial as women are. The difference is that a man’s height cannot be changed by anything other than genetics while a woman’s ass/tits can be changed by hard work

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Anonymous OP 9w

???

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Anonymous OP 9w

Failure of crosssex mind reading 💀

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Anonymous freestyle 9w

tits cannot be changed by “hard work” lol it's fat not muscle. weight gain can sometimes make them bigger but there is no guarantee that if you gain fat it'll go there (it'll usually go elsewhere too which men find unattractive). working out often makes them appear smaller.

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Anonymous #4 9w

Working out makes you toned Most guys are ass guys and could not care less about tits as long as the ass is there Shape over size

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Anonymous freestyle 9w

okay i wasn't arguing that lmao i was just arguing the fact that you think tits are somehow a controllable factor.

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Anonymous #4 9w

Well, they are. If you can make them smaller by working out, they’re controllable. Is that a good or a bad thing? Can’t say, since that goes back to my point of the consensus on boob size being 50/50. Height isn’t controllable at all. If you jump 50 times each day, you’ll jump higher eventually but you won’t get shorter or taller

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Anonymous freestyle 9w

The fact is that in primate biology we have a thing called reproductive skew. It’s pretty much guaranteed that a woman is always going to find a partner (in MOST cases) whereas men are objectively less likely to have the opportunity. Whether they die young, or get bullied by more dominant men, the fact is that the top men are going to have multiple female mating opportunities while the lower men are going to have zero. It’s not 1:1. Pretty much women are guaranteed sexual encounters

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Anonymous #11 9w

It’s very clearly evident through dating apps. If you’re a woman and you want to have sex on-demand, just go into dating apps and you can typically get dick that same night or the next, with a dozen options to choose from. Whereas a man, far less likely, far more competition, and frankly the bottom 20% of men are just never going to have any sort of play on dating apps. No matter how much they pay or use the app.

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Anonymous #11 9w

Evolutionary it’s a good thing because it rewards the strongest male genetics to be passed onward while the least viable are dropped (sadly) and this also naturally encourages male competition to become stronger and smarter than eachother which accelerates human capabilities in general. Women also compete with eachother for males, but a woman’s primary resource necessity is food. A man’s primary resource necessity is reproductive access to women.

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Anonymous #4 9w

Last example, in modern society any woman can essentially snap her fingers and go get fertilized at a sperm bank whenever she wants. Relatively speaking, modern women have pretty no concern about reproductive success. A man still has to find someone to be with, and have a successful long term relationship. A woman can just get impregnated by a random dude in tinder whenever she wants or go to the sperm bank.

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Anonymous #11 9w

And yes it a man has a lot of money 10k+ in theory he could hire a surrogate mother to provide offspring but realistically he can’t just swipe on tinder for a couple months and convince random women to let him knock them up. It’s not that easy for a man to fulfill reproductive success.

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