Anonymous #2 15w

It depends on the time. In the past a ton of men would get drafted or signup to join the military and women have only been involved for a short time and are often given less risky positions. This doesn’t even include the discussion about removing women from the military due to them not being as strong as men. Yeah pregnancy is more common than war but war is beyond significantly worse to deal with

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Anonymous OP 15w

Women also have to choice to get pregnant and most of the time they want kids vs men getting drafted and forced into sacrificing pretty much everything

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Anonymous OP 15w

Yeah I know, that’s why it’s not comparable. It’s worse to deal with but most regular guys will likely never have to deal with it. Pregnancy is a comparatively smaller but more universal sacrifice. There’s nothing equal to war draft for women, there’s nothing equal to pregnancy for men

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Anonymous OP 15w

Women have also been forced to bear children in the past just like men have been forced to join wars in the past. Idk why we’re trying to compare these things they are so different

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That’s because there hasn’t been a recent need to. If push comes to shove they will. Btw it’s YOUR choice to have sex. Obviously this isn’t always the case but the majority of the time it is

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Anonymous OP 15w

Just a question, when was the last time a draft actually happened?

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Anonymous #3 15w

Who is responsible for ending wars and crushing the terrorists of the world?

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Anonymous #14 15w

And that’s just serving in the military, not specifically going to war

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Anonymous #15 15w

Literally, “going to war” hasn’t been an exclusively male experience in over a century in the US

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Anonymous #3 15w

Cats, probably

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I think perhaps you’re not aware of the select service system? If we end up in a true WWIII, which is honestly looking ever more likely as China has dramatically ramped up its capabilities and has been drilling invading Taiwan more frequently, then yes, there will be a massive drafting of US males just like there has been in Ukraine for their male citizens.

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Anonymous #11 15w

Well yes, men ended the war they started… how were women supposed to if they were never given the opportunity to… was this supposed to be a clap back ? 😂😂

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Anonymous #3 14w

The elites, which are a separate class of people. “Men” are not to blame.

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Anonymous #3 14w

Bro hasn’t heard of Hillary Clinton

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Anonymous #3 14w

Don’t upset Queen Victoria she might haunt you

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Anonymous #19 14w

Yes the elites are primarily men and exist based on the system of patriarchy

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Anonymous #14 14w

Crazy how we’re just handwaving tens of millions of the most gruesome, hellish deaths imaginable in the last century alone because “erm… not ALL men fight in wars lol”

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Anonymous #3 14w

Blaming all war and violence on “men” or “patriarchy” oversimplifies complex historical, political, and economic systems. Power struggles, colonialism, nationalism, resource scarcity, and ideology, not just gender, have driven conflicts. Many women have held power and supported wars, from queens to modern politicians. Violence is a human issue, not a gendered one. If we want real progress, we need to understand systems of power, not reduce them to one identity group.

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Anonymous #19 14w

Woah was not expecting 19 to start spitting bars no offense lol

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Anonymous #20 14w

True yea and also many men were pushed with propaganda kinda ‘indoctrinated’ to enlist to ‘serve for what’s right’ even underage boys enlisted and lied about their age, but drafted or not you could still have empathy too for a wife devoting her whole life to her husband and son just for them to go off to war and never return. War never changes.

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Anonymous #20 14w

Or just outright saying “anything outside of the USA doesn’t count!!” While millions of Russian / Ukraine men have been drafted and are currently dying as we speak

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Anonymous #17 14w

There’s no draft until WWIII starts and the SSS kicks in

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Anonymous #20 14w

Men don’t have the right to vote or government scholarships UNLESS they sign up for the draft If you refuse to sign the draft you can be sent to prison as well.

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Anonymous #20 14w

Wait huh? Did they revoke the 26th Amendment or what? Not minding whateverthefuck that shit is at the end

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Anonymous #19 14w

Honestly I’m not even sure I signed up for the draft, if I remember correctly my draft numbers were mailed to me about a week after my 18th birthday

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Anonymous #19 14w

Correct. We don’t have the right to vote, just a conditional privilege in exchange for complying after being threatened with death in any number of horrific ways for the government.

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Anonymous #8 14w

The 26th was basically created because people were so angry that men were being dragged out of highschool and sent to Vietnam at age 18 but weren’t allowed to even vote until 21 (the voting age at that time) However it’s still true that refusing to sign up for the draft forfeits your right to vote entirely (women are exempt) so technically speaking women have the undeniable right to vote whereas men only have the right to vote / scholarships on the condition of agreeing to selective service

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Anonymous #19 14w

Yeah, not to mention our “right” to live in the first place can be legally and constitutionally stripped from us at any moment for any number of stupid reasons and by people who will never have to see the consequences of that decision.

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Anonymous #19 14w

Yea I got that not signing up for Selective Service results in a felony, which makes you not be able to vote. Didn’t know the history behind it, was just taken off guard by the misrepresented ‘men 18-26 have no right to vote’. So what, don’t let women vote cause they can’t be drafted? Make women draftable? Idk where #20 was goin with that but if I have to say it I will, death for democracy!

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Anonymous #20 14w

I mean yea that’s the US for ya, biggest thing about citizenship was being born here yet they forcibly displaced, eradicated, and assimilated the original peoples born on this land

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Anonymous #20 14w

My point is that you can’t claim to have a shared universal male hardship in “going to war” when more than likely you’ve never experienced it or anything close to it. Stop claiming other men’s trauma as your own, it’s weird as hell lol

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Anonymous #14 14w

Stop telling us how to feel about millions of us dying brutally and without just cause.

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I’m not saying you can’t empathize with people who have fought in wars and recognize that it’s an awful thing but claiming that men’s universal suffering is war is just, as of now, statistically just plain not true…that’s not YOUR trauma. Lumping that in with “paying the bills” like the original post did is just fucking ridiculous

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Anonymous #8 14w

It sounds like you think men aged 18-26 have the right to vote. Why do you think that?

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Anonymous #14 14w

Once again, handwaving away millions of deaths because it’s only millions rather than billions.

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Anonymous #14 14w

Should we wait to be slaughtered by the billions in nuclear fire before we demand change?

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Anonymous #20 14w

I’m not handwaving shit, I’m just saying that lumping in “having to go to war” along with paying bills and other stuff that supposedly only men do (women do most if not everything that was on the list OOP made already too) as something comparable to childbirth is just fucking stupid overall and statistically not even comparable as a “universal” male experience

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Anonymous #20 14w

Literally wtf, I think you’re just ENTIRELY missing my point on purpose atp

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Anonymous #20 14w

And before you even say shit, I don’t even believe the draft should be a thing for anyone regardless of gender

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Anonymous #19 14w

Exactly, “and who set that system up😏” is so fucking infuriating because do they expect us to just go “Oh whoops yeah I forgot I drafted all that legislation 200 years ago lemme just go change it rq”

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Anonymous #20 14w

Yup I see that glossing over lot of prehistory that men going into battles saw women as non-expendable in society to keep it alive and the honor of protecting your home/family from invasion/pillage; Not taking anything away from women warriors it’s an honor to them and patriarchy twisted words to lessen women for not being pulled to the frontlines. Along w the sad history if it wasn’t for world wars and many men sent of for years & dying, that women were put in the workforce and later suffrage

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Anonymous #18 14w

if that happens i do think most people would be against it hopefully

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Anonymous #20 14w

I pre-registered when I was 17 and when I was 18 I walked into the town hall to vote, along with many other guys my same age I went to school with? My vote was counted then but if you have any info that we engaged in fraudulent voting please lmk

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Anonymous #8 14w

Your parents most likely signed you up for the draft if you didn’t do it yourself. The fact that your draft papers were mailed to you a week after your 18th birthday implies it was already completed prior to your 18th birthday (the post office takes at least a week to send a letter) So your “right to vote” was contingent on signing up for the draft, which you have no memory of doing, meaning your parents most likely did it on your behalf for you

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Anonymous #19 14w

Most likely that was my guess, was better than me forgetting to do it and accidentally becoming a felon. I do see a point of the ‘right to democratically vote if you fight to uphold it if the time comes’. I’d hope after Nam the US learned not to draft for offensive attacks, and geographically it’s hard to invade the US (granted it’s not a world war) but due to MAD that would just end in nuclear fallout. Also the way new-age drone warfare is going less men die in wars (atleast on both sides?)

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