Seeing girls repeatedly go after guys guys like this after I have literally had a couple of them tell me I’d be a perfect husband has destroyed my drive to even try to attempt to date , so I do think male loneliness is caused by guys but the guys that cause it are not the ones who expericne it.
He’s a little brash but I’d recommend watching hoe_math for some insight on this. What women want makes sense on a biological level. It’s just really hard to control for without societal intervention (i.e. marriage and sexual modesty). Men’s sexual immoderation is mostly naturally taken care of by women’s higher sexual thresholds.
Controlled for* so that male and female sexual interaction is somewhat balanced. Otherwise you get a bunch of King Solomons with 500 wives and concubines and a bunch of men with zero wives or concubines. Those men miss that connection and try to find it elsewhere, so they can be dangerous when left to their devices. What men should be or shouldn’t be, as often comes up, is irrelevant to what men are. You can’t socialize biology out of men fortunately.
Life seeks to more life and men are Mother Nature’s instrument to that end. The educated and theoretical mind often reduces male instinct to savagery and perversion; such a mind is sufficiently shielded from biology to care for much other than sociology. All human phenomena are socially derived and therefore have social solutions. They overestimate human agency as OP did.
Humans can mate how they want. If women decide they would rather all be a wife to the same guy (which historically women in those situations were seen as bargaining chips and weren’t actively choosing those things themselves so that’s a horrible example) then that is their choice and if some men don’t get chosen back at all by the women they choose, then that’s not the women’s problem or fault if that man decides to be dangerous. Men with wives are also dangerous. It’s them choosing to do that.
They think men as a whole or women as a whole can just change or should just change. They do this rather than understand the biological impulses behind these behaviors and use social duress to enforce change. Men shouldn’t change; women shouldn’t change. I feel that people assume that better looking guys are worse in other aspects because they think people can’t have the “whole package”. Not true. Some “assholes” are much better than some “nice guys” at the things that benefit women and humanity
I’m completely forgetting all minority sexual relations in my strange theory, yes. Those women likely chose the same guy for reasonable benefit - protection and wealth. That type of person will always exist. It is most certainly women’s problem, and men’s, if men decide to be dangerous. Most of the protections afforded to women are provided by men unfortunately. The laws are useful but obviously not bulletproof. There is always jealousy towards those who “hoard” anything or anyone of value.
Oh god I can’t even begin to unravel this. First, mates for humans are not chosen for protection and wealth solely or even most importantly those. Humans need other humans to survive but we have shown time and time again that sex isn’t required to live healthy lives and the different mating habits we choose are unique to us. And no, the protections afforded to women are not provided by men. In a society those physics able protect those unable, that’s just how it works, BUT with the invention of
Yes those men choose to do those things, but I’d say it’s probably better not to make those things easier choices for the sole benefit of unbounded pleasure. To starve the man and behead the thief is hardly giving him choice. Nothing is ever anyone’s problem until it’s their problem. By that time of course, they’ve forgotten that it started being their problem long ago. There are benefits to seeking benefits for others, that’s why we developed empathy - male and female.
And also you are actively talking about women as if they are a resource to own and possess that other men will try to steal or take rather than living thinking humans who choose where they go. Like you genuinely are talking like laws of the beasts as if we are incapable of civility.
With the inventions of sophisticated weapons, men still provide those protections in the form of [police, military (protection from bodily harm)], [builders, electricians, garbage and sewage workers (protection from nature)] etc. I did not say there were zero women in those fields, but they’re a minority.
Yeah okay not true. I played sports all my life. I. Personal expericne there would be 2 types of guys, the “player” who always had a gf, multiple times caught cheating, and could basiclly get any girl he wanted. The other guy would be the one who don’t disrespect girls(objectifying them, cheating on them, manipulating them) who wokld get complements by how nice they were and how great of a husband they would be, but have never had a gf before. It just don’t make sense
Now also, have you considered the fact that part of people who are manipulators is that they are manipulating the girls they are with to seem like better people than they are??? As well as: maybe those girls were looking for hook ups/sex/a fun time rather than something serious like marriage? Maybe those girls were also cheaters and didn’t really care about his history?
I’m not talking abt just cheating. My point is that the saying the “nice guy always finishes last” is becoming more evident and is hard to live with. Often times being nice and a good person is not what ppl want to be around causing the genuine ppl to either change or keep living how they are and become lonely
And of course on top of all of that, none of that proves it’s got any relation to the loneliness epidemic. You can be single and not be lonely or depressed even if you want a relationship. Dudes not getting a girlfriend is not equal to dudes have no meaningful connections or relationships with anyone.