Anonymous #1 2w

Men don’t have to look decent, they don’t need hours of physical prep and money to look acceptable for public viewing without judgement. You say just look pretty as if it isn’t a full time job taking a ridiculous amount of time.

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Anonymous #1 2w

It’s also so dumb to be whining that people have to win over their partners and meet their standards? Maybe rather than faulting women for caring about how a man behaves, you start raising your standards to actually care about her values and what you need in a partner?

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Anonymous #1 2w

I’m not saying women have it harder in relationships and you should pitty women, but that it’s not that men have it so difficult that they have to behave like a respectable person 💀 you’re not oppressed because some women have higher standards than you

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Anonymous #1 2w

We definitely do have to worry about them. And obviously I’ve heard about “most men are actually bad” and there may be truth to that but it doesn’t stop most women from finding a man pretty easily. There’s a reason twice as many men our age are single compared to women. And at least yall are desired. A lot of us have never even gotten a little interest

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Anonymous OP 2w

Bro being desired as a target for abuse isn’t something to be jealous of. Being treated like a piece of meat isn’t this revolutionary flattering thing.

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Anonymous OP 2w

Also a lot of women in our generation (at much higher rates than men) are dating each other, so like keep in mind many women are dating other women. Or they are being or have been groomed by older men, so still nothing to be jealous about.

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Anonymous OP 2w

It honestly sounds like a little kid that’s a little hungry saying “at least you’re getting snacks” when another child is eating something poisoned that damages their body. Do you understand how ridiculous that is? And why it’s so ignorant to be whining about how women have it easy when dating?

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Anonymous OP 2w

I would have rather had no interest be shown to me than it have been my teacher in elementary school, and in middle school, and in high school, and drunk middle age men in college and the abusers in my classes. I would have rather never been touched for my entire life than have that attention and those relationships.

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Anonymous #1 2w

Ok but that still doesn’t change the fact that we have to do everything when it comes to making moves and attracting them which is my whole point. I’m not trying to act like we have life worse than them, but it’s frustrating being expected to do everything in dating, especially when you’re not capable of it

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Anonymous OP 2w

I want to remind you that 1 out of every 4 women have experienced severe intimate partner violence. Severe meaning injuries bad enough to go to hospital for. This isn’t a luxury.

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Anonymous OP 2w

Holding a door open or paying for meals isn’t everything in a relationship. Yes some women still hold onto patriarchal ideals for how men should behave in a relationship, and those are absolutely ridiculous (especially if they don’t hold themselves to the same patriarchal standards), but it’s really not all the prevalent outside of women looking to be sahm or hook ups with perks.

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Anonymous OP 2w

For your own sake, raise your standards of the women you are taking out on dates if these are the expectations your exes have forced on you. Look for women with shared values and relationship expectations

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Anonymous #1 2w

Sure? Still not my point though. My point is women are always the prize when dating. They know it and we know it. It’s always us who has to put every bit of effort to try to get her to like us and risk rejection or looking like a fool. It’s rarely the other way around. And as a man who wants nothing more than to be chased and desired, that’s my frustration. I know about grape and violence against women and all that and it’s awful, but that’s not what I’m talking about

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Anonymous #1 2w

I can’t raise my standards, I’ve never gotten as far as a relationship

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Anonymous OP 2w

If you’ve never had a relationship then how are you so certain of what women want and expect in relationships?

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Anonymous #1 2w

Dates + friends + women online

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Anonymous OP 2w

Online is not a good representation to be so for real. And seeing as you feel like you can’t have any standards, I assume you and your friends aren’t trying to find women to go on dates with that are mature or decent people. I also want to point out that dating changes A LOT from high school to adult dating. Some college students are still in the high school dating mindset of doing it just for fun and attention and that just goes nowhere, so don’t take the behavior of literal children as fact

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Anonymous OP 2w

Relationships can end at any point for any reason, there is no one perfect solution and ideal partner consistently, anyone can be dumped even after trying their hardest to be exactly what the other person wanted (both men and women) because that’s just how relationships are. It sucks but you can be the perfect partner and be dumped or cheated on or anything, because those actions are dictated by your partner’s character and not your own.

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Anonymous OP 2w

The whole point of having standards is to not waste your time on someone it won’t work out with, not because you have an endless supply of suiters waiting for you. It’s better to have only one date in three years and finding someone you actually connect with than 100 dates with 100 women that won’t go anywhere further.

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