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God and Science don’t contradict each other btw. Hope this helps 💞. (Will explain if necessary)
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Anonymous 1w

I was wondering where your comment went. Feel free to reply to another comment and I’m open to discussing it.

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Anonymous 1w

How does it violate community standards?!!!

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Anonymous 1w

okay i do have a genuine question. in this context, how do you feel about christians who believe the bible is metaphorical and that every passage is not meant to be taken literally?

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Anonymous 1w

Honestly, it they’re older than 10 and have access to a library and the Internet, and still believing in fairytales and their little lich, they’re hopeless.

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Anonymous 1w

As a Christin who believes all those things while also going into neuroscience and the medical field, I believe those things happened because he was Jesus. He is the epitome of “miracles” or “defying science” I mean fuck, he’s JESUS! Like ofc he’d do thing science can’t explain. I also am open to the possibility that those things didn’t happen but the only person who could prove it didn’t happen would be god or the universe. I believe all science tho. Because Science trumps religion.

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Anonymous 1w

You guys calm down science and god are two different things

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Anonymous 5d

Uh oh too based

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Anonymous 6d

God did them because they go beyond science. We can’t go beyond on our own, but He alone has that power

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Anonymous 6d

not sure if someone has said this already bc theres a lot of comments but heres my view on it. i am a christian and believe that most things in the bible happened in the literal sense. however, i also believe science and all its intricacies were created by god. sometimes he uses science for his will (shoutout modern medicine). other times, he uses his supernatural power to display his glory

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Anonymous 1w

The thing is that none of those events are scientifically impossible

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Anonymous 1w

God took down ur post and ur still a non believer?

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Anonymous 1w

these are always such hard topics. like i’m a firm believer in christ, but im not sure how science aligns with some things cause like evolution for example. definitely confuses me but i just tread where i please and inform myself on both sides

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

i just think that you can’t fully say you believe in science if you believe in miracles/ fantastical events and other things in the bible. i get what you're saying about miracles, by definition, they're supposed to be supernatural. but that's exactly where the contradiction with science comes in. science is based on observable, testable, repeatable evidence. shit like a talking snake, a woman made from a rib, or someone walking on water directly violate the known laws of biology and physics.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

so if someone believes those stories happened literally, then they’re choosing to accept things that are fundamentally unscientific. that’s not necessarily wrong from a faith standpoint, but it does mean science and that kind of belief system are operating by different rules. u can believe in both faith and science in some ways, but not without acknowledging that they sometimes contradict each other, especially when it comes to literal interpretations of religious texts

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Anonymous 1w

but if they’re violating the laws of nature that means it’s not scientific and it’s not possible. to believe that there can be violations is to deny science. because the point of scientific laws is that it’s law, there are no exceptions.

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Anonymous 1w

don’t patronize me. its not possible unless there’s a god that made it so. and i believe there is no such god, and therefore none of that actually happened. you are free and welcome to have your own beliefs, but i am on the side of scientific evidence

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

a talking snake isn’t scientifically impossible ??😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

all of these events are impossible by laws of nature and science. they are stories.

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Anonymous replying to -> hellraiser 1w

More believable than black holes and the Big Bang

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Anonymous replying to -> hellraiser 1w

Virgin can get pregnant from IVF Water can be converted into wine; how do you think winemaking works!? Even without grapes it can be chemically converted into alcohol. Walking on water is possible by having a shallow floatation device or very shallow water or desert mirage hallucinations. Being resurrected is possible it’s called Lazarus syndrome or a defibrillator. The talking snake is hard to believe but still makes more sense than “big bang 14 billion years ago”

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

this is not a strong argument at all. mary did not get ivf. jesus did not use any winemaking methods to turn the water into wine, he didn’t have any flotation devices, he didn’t have lazarus syndrome and wasn’t resurrected with a defibrillator. if you genuinely believe that a talking snake is more believable than the big bang which is believed by the majority of scientists then that’s on you ig and we have very different understandings of science.

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Anonymous 1w

most notable modern scientists, esp in fields like physics, biology, and cosmology, are nonreligious, agnostic or atheist.

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Anonymous 1w

a lot of early scientists were religious because religion was nearly universal in the Western world. and einstein was not traditionally religious

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Anonymous 1w

einstein was ethically and culturally jewish but he did not believe in a god

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Anonymous replying to -> hellraiser 1w

Darwin known to be a Christian

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

yall im not saying that there are no religious scientists. just that there are parts of religion that directly contradict what we know to be true because of science

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Anonymous 1w

yeah i think he was more spiritual than traditionally religious. he was critical of a lot of aspects of religion and said that a lot of religious beliefs were naive. he even describes himself as agnostic.his rejection of traditional religious dogma was deeply rooted in his scientific worldview and his experiences with science

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Anonymous 1w

he didn’t believe that any of those fantastical things happened in the bible

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

darwin started out christian but he later said he viewed religion as a tribal survival strategy and moral framework stemming from human fears, not divine truths. he came to reject literal belief in the creation account (Genesis), miracles, and supernatural/ fantastical aspects of the Bible

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

he explicitly said he did not believe in revelation, and that the bible’s supernatural stories were “untenable as literal history”

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Anonymous 1w

Cool, doesn’t mean religion is any more real.

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Anonymous replying to -> handsome_guy 1w

YikYak doesn’t like even the slightest bit of criticism against organised cults.

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Anonymous 1w

that doesn’t really answer my question. i’m not religious, but my mom for example does not believe the bible is meant to be taken literally. instead she believes a majority of the stories are metaphors for people to interpret in order to be closer to god. i’m asking how hellraiser believes that pairs with science!

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Anonymous 1w

i believe you’re more so talking about the parts of the bible that are literal events, such as people were stoned in jesus’ time. that’s not what i’m trying to discuss here. sorry if i’m reading what you’re saying wrong :)

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

i think that definitely is more accurate.

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Anonymous replying to -> hellraiser 1w

We rely on observation to define the rules and limitations of reality, we assume that everything we observe is real and that which cannot be observed is most likely not real. Still, we’d be fools to completely disregard the possibility that there are forces behind what our senses can perceive, or our machines can detect. If such things exist, there could be others that we simply can’t measure yet. What if other such real-yet-invisible forces are the basis behind miracles?

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 1w

Quantum physics moment

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Anonymous replying to -> hellraiser 1w

IVF is a complicated procedure for the time period, but if you’re looking for a scientific explanation for virgin birth, there is a very real thing called “parthenogenesis”. It’s rare overall, and mainly occurs with insects or plants, but it does happen across many species

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Anonymous replying to -> handsome_guy 1w

it got restored somehow but idkk

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

i def believe the bible demonstrates the morals we should be going off of and there are lots we should not take literally. the bible says to stone your child if they’re disrespectful and to gouge out your eye if it causes you to sin and i’m not seeing any of that (thankfully). why cherry pick these rules yk

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 1w

Parthenogenesis doesn’t happen in humans. That would result in tumours.

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Anonymous replying to -> hellraiser 1w

Why did Anton Lavey, the founder of the satanic church, cry out for God on his death bed? He was so sure of himself like you his whole life, good luck

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

“Science deals with the natural world”

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Anonymous replying to -> orange_joyful_cat44 1w

Dang

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Anonymous replying to -> orange_joyful_cat44 1w

Amazing how your god would focus on a YikYak post but not on the numerous genocides happening around the world. Priorities, I guess.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 1w

5 ur just talking out of ur ass and no don’t say this and that is happening maybe god did just save a few people just now just like how he took care of something small just now 🙂

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 1w

Are we serious? Also this like canonically happens cuz god promised not to like nuke humanity again but really

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Anonymous replying to -> orange_joyful_cat44 1w

Cool, I wasn’t referencing just Palestine. The Uyghur are suffering, the Congolese are suffering, the Amharas, the list goes on. But sure, your “all-loving” god sure is happy to let it all happen.

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 1w

Still waiting for any evidence of your little sky daddy. Still haven’t seen any reason to even want to worship it. 🥱

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 1w

True if god was real he probably would of saved me from your insufferable ass

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Anonymous replying to -> orange_joyful_cat44 1w

Remember, this is “all a test of your willingness to be an eternal slave or suffer for eternity! Because you’re loved so much!” 🙄 Imagine being a dumbass who thinks that there’s a god.

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 1w

There isn’t “both sides” to it, though. We have evidence for and have observed evolution time and time again. We see it actively happening every day.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 6d

for example, i think scientific theories such as evolution are entirely possible and even likely. i doubt the creation story told in the bible is a literal seven days. however, i also think that god’s hand guided evolution

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

yes but there’s also evidence of biblical events so people have the right to choose what they believe. there’s no right or wrong, it’s just simply what you prefer to believe is correct

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

I mean, when it’s shoved down your throat from birth, it can be difficult to come to that revelation that early in someone’s life

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 6d

He has the power to do whatever he wants besides give kids cancer lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 6d

yeah i wish he had the power to stop the evil on the world 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> hellraiser 6d

Waiting for the “weLl hE GaVe uS FrEewILl” comments. Is it really free will if he’s gonna punish us for using it? Lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 6d

You mean a flood? Like I don’t know, the ice age melting?

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 6d

fr

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 6d

2 different things lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 6d

damn yall hating for WHAT. just let people believe what they want to believe, my goodness

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 6d

He doesn’t give anyone diseases. The world is natural. He is not

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 6d

He goes beyond our definition of “natural” And we are doing all sorts of not natural stuff

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

That isn’t how that works None of it is slavery.

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Anonymous 6d

Ok let me raise you this. If we do, in fact, have an all powerful being who rules over everything, why are disasters a thing? Why would a child go homeless? Why would genocides, wars, famine, etc all happen?

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 6d

«Insert dumbass excuse about “free will” or some “divine plan” or scapegoat in the form of some imaginary evil»

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6d

As a Cristian I would not make the argument that walking on water is possible by human means. You basically sat here and said “Jesus used modern day technology to get people to like him. There’s the pregnancy, there’s the wine, there’s the walking on water”

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 6d

Exactly. The natural world! Not God

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 6d

God created and is therefore outside of nature

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6d

Yet we have observed black holes and evidence of the Big Bang…..

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 6d

Ok so, why do we have natural disasters if this god is all loving like yall say he is?

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 6d

So why do diseases exist? In your view he created diseases, then he must have a way to cure them

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 6d

Nah not when their beliefs reject scientific constructs that help the world and hinder us from helping people, IE fighting against the truth that climate change is real

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 6d

You’ve never observed a black hole. You don’t have evidence of the Big Bang. Other people told you this. These are blind faith items.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6d

Just as you have never observed a person walking on water or a person being magically revived after spending 3 days in a cave or a talking snake.

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 6d

And yet, we have truly observed what we can see of a black hole. Multiple photos have been released of a black hole….

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6d

Yes the fuck we have 🤣 We also can observe the cosmic microwave background radiation, we know the universe is constantly expanding, we can tell which galaxies are moving closer or farther, the list goes on. Yet not a single person has ever walked on water, there was no global flood (the incest and lack of animal diversity would be a death sentence anyway 😂). Like, grow up.

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 6d

well i believe climate change is real so what do you have to say about that? i’m christian and a firm believer that climate change is real and global warming is real and am an advocate for sustainability (mind you that’s literally my minor for college).

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Anonymous 6d

we’re more advanced now, yes, but that doesn’t mean we know everything about what there is to know about climate change and global warming

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 6d

There is a right and wrong because you’re dealing with fiction vs reality. Your bible really doesn’t have the evidence y’all like to pretend it does.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

okay bud. you believe what you want to believe, and i’ll believe what i want to believe. mkay?

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Anonymous 6d

i literally never said people who believe in science are mentally ill?????? when did i say that?????? obviously science has been wrong, you literally have to be wrong to find out what’s right???? like????? who the hell am i terrorizing???? i’m literally just saying i believe in both God and science, and not pushing my beliefs on anyone??? i’m not saying “YOU’RE WRONG! ONLY THIS WAY IS RIGHT!” like come on.

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 6d

So, you’re actively choosing fairytales and make-believe over reality. Got it. You’re welcome to do that, just keep it out of our bodies, schools, governments, and daily life. 👌

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 6d

because it’s His will be done. there’s a reason for everything He does. John 13:7 “you do not realize now what i am doin, but later you will understand.” and sinnature causes people to be evil. there’s evil all over the earth. as for science, global warming, politics, etc etc. there’s a reason on both sides, and you have the freedom to chose which one you believe, which is amazing!

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 6d

Right! Fairytales and lies, or reality and evidence. I’ll stick to reality while you enjoy your fairytales.

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 6d

literally 😭😭😭😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 6d

He didn’t “cry out for “god””and y’all need to quit pushing that narrative 🤣

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Anonymous 6d

no, they oBvIoUsLy weren’t. you responded to my comment.

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 6d

So you think fairytales are real? You still cling to Santa?

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Anonymous 6d

exactly.

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Anonymous 6d

yes. just make sure your comments are going to who you mean to direct them toward, please.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

i personally believe that it’s not fairytales and make-believe. i’m not forcing anyone to believe anything, like i stated previously. so defensive for what.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 6d

Like cancer?

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 6d

“Because of sin and free will 🤡”

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 5d

See my other responses in the chat.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Which answered nothing and still don’t have any convincing stance of why your little sky daddy would even deserve to be worshipped. 🥱

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

In case anyone was confused what I meant by my response to that one tho

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Oh I didn’t realize I downvoted. I removed it

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

But yes I didn’t like that comment lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 5d

My best answer is: Go make an appointment with a pastor if you’re actually interested in learning these things. They can give you so much better and more theological answers

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

In other words… “Find someone who is more skilled at lying and dismissing reality than I am”.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Not a tv mega church preacher tho

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

No. That’s a logical fallacy. Do better. I’m saying I don’t have the book knowledge.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

I’m not going to make up some bs response to appease you

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Because you’re not as skilled at lying as they are and don’t know how to twist your fairytale to deceive as well as they do.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Not going to make up some BS? You already have when you tried to act like your cult has any bearing in reality 🤣

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

You are very insistent in being hateful

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Being realistic*

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

I dont have a fairytale. I have love and grace. As a reminder, I don’t owe you a response just bc your personal ego wants me to respond. Especially if you’re being rude. But if you would ever like to have a respectful conversation, you will be met with one I hope you have a good night my friend.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

No, you have fairytales that push abuse and violence. I hope you grow up sooner than later. Life is much better without the shackles of religion. ❤️

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

Abuse and violence are never supported by God and do have punishments if there is unrepentence. And to repent is to CHANGE. Not just a piddly little “oh I’m sorry. But let me punch her again”

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

I have no shackles in my relationship with Christ. Christ has freed me. Religion, hit or miss. Christ? Always good!

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

As numerous atrocities are commanded in your little fairytale book and nobody is more unstable and violent than your “benevolent god”. Sure. 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

That’s usually how cults get you. Luring you in with that false sense of security and lead you to deny reality. You’ll find freedom one day. ❤️

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

When I say “religion hit or miss” I mean the concept of what some call “organized religion” And by “hit or miss” I mean following some organized path. Life isn’t organized. God knows that. That’s part of why he gives us grace. He loves us. He wants to make life easier. What humans do in his name is not necessarily what he wanted. People using the Bible to justify slavery was complete BS and they had to know that if they actually read in context. But alas, people are lazy and want to satisfy

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

When you read it in and out of context, slavery is “justified” and commanded. As is genocide. As is incest and rape. Because it’s an abusive work of fiction used to justify harm and control for a select few.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Themselves. I said I don’t have the knowledge on the topic you asked, just in case you feel like throwing out “I thought you said you don’t know the Bible” I know some. Cause I have been in my loving and healing young adult church group. The first truly loving group of Christians I have been active in. My youth one was filled with bullying and a pastor that instilled fear instead of love. He’s been fired now. Thank God, God placed me in this group a year ago and I have grown so much.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

We are called to love like Jesus. Jesus didn’t instill fear. Jesus instilled truth, love, and peace.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

I don’t need freedom. I have freedom in Christ. You have a twisted view of what and who God is. I am sorry if you have experienced hurt. It seems you have based on your hatred.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

As he called people dogs, killed off trees for simply existing as they do, calls people hypocrites and then says that if you do that you’ll go to hell, encouraged disease spreading by not washing hands, told his followers to steal a donkey just because, got pissed at a leper for wanting to be healed, intentionally spoke in parables to cause confusion, told someone to ignore his father’s burial to follow him- some stranger, lied about the efficacy of prayer… oh! And how he normalised slavery!

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Look at you, trying to pretend your “god” deserves worship and that the entirety of the cults don’t push for harm. I wish I could be as gullible and naïve as you are.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

I would answer but you won’t hear it. You have chosen to be deaf to the truth and mock it. Short answer: “in context” means in the historical, socioeconomic settings, the theological studies, the deep dives. The words alone can be cherry-picked, but Gods word is the truth. It is understood in whole, not by cherry-picking.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Oh! There’s the christian ableism! No amount of “context” will ever justify genocide or slavery. Ever. Under ANY circumstances. And, all y’all do is cherry pick. Hence why there are 10s of THOUSANDS of denominations of y’all’s cults.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

“The entirety … pushes for harm?” Do explain.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Give up your entire, single life and dedicate your free time to following manmade, oppressive systems to satisfy the ego of some fictional abuser. How the hell is that anything but shitty? 🤣

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

Ableism? It’s figure of speech. 😒. I have ADHD and partial deafness lol. “Ableism” 🙄 God doesn’t justify slavery. Talk to a pastor about genocide cause my best answer is elementary level about that is the Old Testament. I don’t have the historical knowledge. I promise we don’t just cherry pick. self-proclaimed Christian’s do. But God calls us out of that.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

But- none of that is Christianity lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Cool, it’s still ableist. Hi, I’m actually Deaf. And yeah, your “god” did so in your own fairytale. So did your (non-existent, by the way) Jesus. Parables weren’t about servants— the Greek “duolos” refers to enslavement. Not ONE passage in your fairytale speaks against genocide or slavery.

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Anonymous 5d

No, we are not encouraged to interpret the Bible in our own way. Don’t speak for all Protestant/other denominations in that context. Some do. Not all.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

“Lean not on your own understanding”

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Exod21:2-11, Lev25:44-46, and then since y’all like to pretend the OT is just “metaphor” and only the NT applies… Eph6:5-9, Col3:22-4:1, 1Tim6:1-2, Tit2:9-10, 1Pet2:18-20. Owning slaves was a “blessing”- Gen12:16/24:35, Isa14:1-2… Exod21:21 “the slave is the owner’s property”. They could be beaten: (see Exod21:20-21,1Pet2:18-20), forced to be concubines (raped): Gen16:3-4,Exod:21:8-11, and then without consequence to the assaulter:Lev19:20-22. Not ONE passage speaks out against it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

History proves that Jesus existed. Regardless of if you believe in God and Jesus being God or not. I might respond to the rest another day. But I’m checking out for now. I need sleep.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

“But lean on the manipulation of those who wrote this bullshit to control you and satisfy their personal gains!” And if the bible were so perfect, so divinely inspired, so clear… y’all wouldn’t have tens of thousands of offshoots.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

(I even was taught that by my very much atheist art teacher)

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Well. Reminded. Not taught. But taught from her perspective on it yes

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

Also, it actually isn’t ableist. I didn’t hate against deaf people. I said you are choosing to stay deaf to a concept. That is a pretty common metaphorical phrase that has nothing to do with actual hearing ability))

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Yeah, no, it doesn’t “prove” it. Definitely not the little lich you seem to think is real. Don’t even try to say Tacitus is “proof” either 🤣 decades after the supposed “death and resurrection” sharing some hearsay. Didn’t even get Pilate’s title right. Also, Portuguese sailors learning about Japan’s Shinto beliefs doesn’t mean those are real either just because they shared them elsewhere. See how that works? 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Except that it does and we need to move away from the shit. Common≠right.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Ah, nothing to say about the slavery. The road to atheism is paved with bibles that have actually been read. 🥱

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

Never said OT is just metaphor. It happened. NT did away with some stuff and God gave us a way to connect and he saved. For an extremely short answer. Now I’m actually getting off. I don’t have energy. But when I am caught up in school maybe I can come back and research thoroughly.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Be saved*

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

So your god threw a fit and committed atrocity after atrocity instead of being benevolent and using its supposedly infinite power to do good? And, no, your book even says that the OT was not done away with. If your options are 1) eternally satisfying an abuser’s ego or 2) eternal torment, that’s not really free will. It’s not love. It’s abuse and manipulation.

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d
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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

Bro’s responding to his own comment

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

I teach logic, not it’s not. Here’s a logical fallacy: If God is all powerful, all knowing, and all good, why is there evil?

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Anonymous replying to -> #20 5d

Well the difference is I don’t believe in the Christian fables. You seem to believe in some random scientist or a third party relaying what a scientist (who you’ve never met) apparently believes about the universe

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

You’re literally reposting a picture without any deeper understanding of theoretical physics or universe. You just believe what you’ve been told. And it’s no different than believing stories from the Bible. I’m not saying black holes aren’t real. I just have no evidence to believe that they are real.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5d

We have this lovely thing called “evidence” that doesn’t care if you choose to ignore reality ❤️

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5d

You do, you just choose to be an idiot. 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

so where did i say anything remotely like that? i explained how my christian viewpoint affirms and works with science

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5d

you can believe what you want, im not trying to change anyone’s mind. i was trying to participate in what i thought was an open discussion. i suggest you try to have the same respect for others

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 5d

If evil didn’t exist we wouldn’t have free will to choose. We would be puppets

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Anonymous replying to -> #19 5d

We already are under your views 🤣

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