Anonymous #1 4w

Who is doing what? Could you be more specific? I am genuinely curious.

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Anonymous strawberry_hair 4w

Maybe I explained it poorly. I’ll try again. As a guy (especially one with an interest in current events) I’m seeing a growing trend of war on the rise. For men who are aware of this, the threat of a draft is like sitting under the sword of Damocles. In most of the world men are the ones to be drafted. However in certain European countries (especially northern European) woman can now be drafted as well. Since war is becoming more of a hot topic I’ve noticed some feminists go quiet.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Im wondering if other people/women are noticing this trend or if it’s just me. I’d also be curious to know how women view getting drafted and if a majority or minority would support all genders being drafted. None being drafted, or only men being drafted.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Mainly I’m wondering if feminism as an ideology is taking a back seat because of this perceived trend

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Anonymous OP 4w

You’re fucking weird

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Anonymous OP 4w

I’d rather not support a war with anyone because most of americas wars have been for resources and colonization so

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Anonymous #3 4w

Why? I have an interest in war, geopolitics, geography, and history. To me it’s very interesting to see shifting dynamics like this. I’ve also recently been learning about philosophy and ideology. What exactly is weird about this? I’m seeing a shift in a certain ideology and Im simply asking if others have as well.

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Anonymous #4 4w

I see, I actually didn’t know that. Could it be classified as a pacifist ideology then? How does feminism treat unprovoked aggression in that case? (In the context of war)

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Anonymous OP 4w

If feminism is an ideology that advocates for gender equality, then everyone should be drafted regardless of gender right? It seems like feminism leans toward peace over war usually but when war reaches a nation’s borders and fighting is no longer a choice, could the feminist stance align more closely with Northern Europe’s approach to gender neutral conscription.

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Anonymous #3 4w

I’d say I half agree. Pre 1900 I’d say your right that most wars America was involved in was for colonization and expansion but post 1900 is all about ideology, security, or just global influence in general. (That last part about global influence just comes with being the global hegemon so it’s not necessarily only the USA that’s guilty of that. But guilty nonetheless.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Feminists don’t agree in using violence to solve conflict. So I guess you could say they are pacifist. International relations, diplomacy, and alliances are the proposed methods of handling it. Global politics should have a focus on keeping violent aggressors out of the sphere of power. Of course that is wishful thinking but that is the ideology and framework.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Feminism is an ideology that advocates for equality (intersectional frameworks put a bigger focus on equity), yes. However, they do not believe in conscription at all. They do not believe that you should be forced against your will to fight in a war that is not even about the common citizen; it’s about politics and power. If you want to fight, then enlist. Male or female. But conscription and draft is unnecessary. This debate is often used in conjunction with “equal rights equal fights” to+

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Anonymous #4 4w

Try and trap feminists in a “gotchya!” Moment. But the fact of the matter is that feminisms entire focus is to eradicate violence as a whole. In modern history, most international conflicts and personal violence are/were initiated by men. So, no. I personally don’t believe that western feminists would hold the same viewpoint as Europe. Because western feminists share the understanding that violence does nothing for prosperity or the development of society as a whole

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Anonymous #4 4w

Sorry, feminisms focus on this topic** not feminism as a whole. There’s a lot more to feminism than that lol

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Anonymous OP 4w

Jumping in here as well to say that arguably, any war/conflict the USA was involved in that had anything to do with “fighting communism” (WWI&WWII, Vietnam, the Cold War) or even “liberation” (Korean war, Gulf war, Iraq war) is a form of colonization, specifically when you look at concepts like the red scare during the Soviet conflicts, and the villainization of Islam and Middle Eastern cultures during the Iraq and Iran wars.+

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Anonymous OP 4w

Violence and unrest occur when an influential/majority entity (in this case the USA) see nonconformist ideologies (opposing political structures, religions, morals, norms,etc) and get scared or angry because they don’t understand why other groups don’t think the same way. Which can cause things like political violence/terrorism (foreign or domestic), white supremacy, crusades, colonialism, the grasp for complete power (hegemony) etc

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Anonymous OP 4w

I don’t support anyone being drafted at all.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Like 4 said most feminist, myself included do not believe in a draft. If we are talking purely United States here we have more than enough service members who actually do sign up for it not even NEED a draft in the first place. Aggression is unfortunately a part of life but if possible diplomacy should be used in every situation.

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Anonymous #4 3w

Idk if saying that most international conflicts being started by men is entirely productive to mention. Throughout history there have been countless wars started by male and female rulers for bad reasons. By the same token there have been plenty of peaceful times overseen by men and women as well. But idk if either war or peace can be described as a male or female led thing.

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Anonymous #6 3w

Don’t get me wrong, I agree that peace 100% can be led by either and war can be led by either. I added that piece in there to exaggerate the point that modern feminists, who are majority women, are so outspoken against wars and conflict- to the point that in the last 100 or so years, a vast majority of international conflict has been started by men, and women have been very vocally against it. So they definitely would not support a gender neutral draft

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