Anonymous #2 22h

I do. As a girlie. I can see it. But what’s weird is that every feature leading to it is changeable but it’s like they don’t want to evolve. They mentally don’t wanna be in this position, but they don’t wanna take the action or forward thinking to get out of the position.

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Anonymous #3 22h

ya i agree w this. i think there’s a loneliness crisis for everyone honestly, but since women often have built more closeness within their communities some of us have a buffer. but as a girl with few female friends it is pretty lonely out here. the difference is IM not turning to redpill and blaming women to solve it

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Anonymous #4 22h

I’m lonely too. It’s weird cause I lean more conservative in many ways but I’m starting to see aspects of “conservative” men I don’t appreciate. Like there’s a difference between traditional values and being an ass. But being an ass is also seen on the left. So I don’t think it’s political. I think it’s coming down to cope and incompetence

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Anonymous #5 21h

Thank you

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Anonymous #7 21h

This seems outta place. I’m confused as to where you’re coming from

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Anonymous #3 21h

I’m just continuing the logic that people who face misfortune are just experiencing natural selection.

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Anonymous #7 21h

I don’t think the loneliness epidemic is misfortune per se

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Anonymous #3 21h

And calling loneliness natural selection ISN’T out of place? lmfao get a grip

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Anonymous #3 21h

Pick your word. Losers in the game of life is clearly what’s being implied. So are women who get killed.

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Anonymous #7 21h

Yeah but I think murder isn’t the same thing as a guy who can’t get a girlfriend? That’s an extreme

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Anonymous #2 21h

Men kill themselves from loneliness, blaming them for it is crazy.

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Anonymous #7 21h

But what would your solution be? Force people to date them? No that’s inane we as people overcome being lonely by being near people but you can’t force that

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Anonymous #2 21h

I’ve been lonely too I’m not blaming people for their struggles or that they deserve to but a lot of times when guys use the male loneliness epidemic concept it’s usually as a way of blaming women for their issues and that’s not right either

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Anonymous #2 21h

I’m not proposing any solution, I’m just saying you’re a psycho if you’re not sympathetic. Saying it’s “natural selection” is essentially callously blaming the men for their own loneliness and shrugging your shoulders, saying “that’s life.” It’s kinda cruel, and we shouldn’t do that.

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Anonymous #7 21h

I agree I’m not saying ignore it I think OP was kind of extreme too but I’m saying comparing it to murdering someone is even more cruel, I’ve had chronic depression and have attempted before I’m aware about how being lonely can make people feel, I have sympathy towards them but blaming women isn’t the answer

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Anonymous #2 21h

No it’s not, it’s a broad, liberal cultural commentary written about in thinkpieces in the likes of the new york times. And even if it was, just because you don’t agree with the name of it doesn’t mean you should do a radical 180 and blame men for their problems by calling it “natural selection.”

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Anonymous #2 21h

Strawman argument, no one said blaming women is the answer. I’m not blaming women, I’m attacking the logic of the argument because that SAME LOGIC should blame women for their problems. If you have sympathy toward loneliness, you should understand that blaming those people is insane, like how I’m saying blaming women for being murdered is EQUALLY INSANE.

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Anonymous #7 20h

Ohh okay I see you were using an extreme to prove a point, I’m saying that people who generally use that phrase mle usually are like the incel guy and only use it to justify what they do and blame women, now actual lonelyness no it’s not smth that people should be blamed for unless their actions caused that, but if it’s just for being who they are then no people shouldn’t be hurt

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Anonymous #2 20h

Agreed. Except “male loneliness epidemic” is primarily used to describe an actual phenomenon in social science.

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Anonymous #7 20h

I think males and females are equally as lonely. I think that females are quieter about their loneliness in some regard. Most podcasts who talk about the issue or males and males commit suicide successfully more frequently than females do. But I think both genders are impacted equally by the loneliness epidemic. I know for a fact, I'm lonely. I feel like I can't really connect with anyone on a deep level. The last time I did, I ended up really hurt so now I'm scared.

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Anonymous #7 20h

call me crazy but i dont think not getting a girlfriend is equivalent to being murdered by your husband

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Anonymous #9 20h

I never said they were equivalent. I’m saying the logic that blames men for their misfortune also blames women for their problems, which is fucked up.

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Anonymous #2 20h

Lol this person agrees with me and y’all are still spamming downvotes because you don’t like being called hypocrites 😭😭

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Anonymous #11 19h

you think men are lonely because they can’t show emotion?

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Anonymous #11 19h

Eh I don’t agree here. I don’t think that’s the problem. I think a big proportion of loneliness is anxiety induced. But another part is men not acting like men and stepping into that roll to be a provider and protector then asking women to lower the bar of entry into their life. Like no step up and evolve. Find what your downfall is be it mentally through education, physically by being active, or emotionally by getting out of their comfort zones and getting more socially aware.

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Anonymous #3 19h

I’m not out here forcing myself out of my comfort zone every other day trying to better myself just to be told to lower my expectations of the men I seek to find in my life forever.

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Anonymous #7 17h

I think mostly men are lonely because they’re expected not to show vulnerability, and that includes certain emotions

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Anonymous tomatogames 7h

This is exactly it. The MLP is a combination of an existing issue with a self-inflicted one, and people often conflate the two when discussing the MLP. I think if we’re able to address the broader loneliness crisis and get some of these guys to actually go out and touch grass, some of the worse social tendencies will improve. It’s really easy to become an extremist in an echo chamber. Connection to others often fixes that.

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Anonymous #7 7h

So you’re implying spousal murder and DV self-inflicted? That’s incredibly fucked up my guy. Please go touch some grass before expressing any more opinions online.

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Anonymous #12 4m

I’m saying neither spousal murder nor loneliness are self-inflicted, but saying one implies the other. Maybe you should learn how to read before replying again to me. Lmfao.

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