Anonymous #3 5d

I mean in this context, they’re both Olympic contenders. I’d think other contexts would be more concerning for people to be taken advantage of.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Just because someone’s at an Olympic level in athleticism doesn’t mean you can’t get groomed or exploited

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Anonymous OP 5d

Sure, but just because two people who have a large age difference have a sexual interaction doesn’t mean the younger person is getting groomed or exploited.

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Anonymous #4 5d

That’s literally what it means. You have 0 business sleeping with younger ppl at a big age gap unless you’re grooming

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Anonymous OP 5d

Grooming generally takes time, and Olympic contenders have presumably only known each other for a couple of weeks, not long enough for grooming to take place. Also, an orgy typically implies multiple people having a sexual encounter together, presumably of varying ages— I doubt any 18 year old Olympic figure skaters are feeling pressured to join an orgy they aren’t eager to participate in.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Literally not the point and just bc to you it takes time doesn’t mean it has to in order to qualify as grooming. Even if it isn’t. THERE’S NO REASON FOR YOU TO BE WITH A FUCKING 18 YEAR OLD PAST AT 30

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Anonymous OP 5d

Also, as fellow Olympic contestants from all over the country or the world, it doesn’t seem like there’d be any power differential between them. I’d think a context in which the 30+ year old had known an 18 year old for years beforehand would be much more concerning.

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Anonymous #4 5d

How is this any different from 30 year old men hitting on 18 year olds at 18+ clubs who we as a society see as creepy

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Anonymous #2 5d

You seem to not understand what grooming means. There’s no reason for anyone to be with anyone, is there? Why don’t you stop policing and get your puritanical nose out of whatever mutual, consensual fun adult Olympic contenders get up to while not competing.

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Anonymous OP 5d

It’d be more analogous to a 30 year old and an 18 year old being in an orgy with others at an 18+ sex club. Also, you don’t really know people’s exact ages at an 18+ club unless you tell one another. As long as the 30+ year old person aren’t actively seeking out people who seem younger for the reason of them being easier to manipulate, I wouldn’t see an issue if a 30 year old and an 18 year old mutually flirted with one another at an 18+ club.

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Anonymous OP 5d

And also, when you say “who we as a society see as creepy”, I think you mean Gen Z specifically. Our generation is overly concerned with age gaps imo, overcompensating for a historical lack of sufficient concern for age gaps in predatory contexts, or just predatory dynamics in general.

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Anonymous #4 5d

There’s a vast maturity gap

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Anonymous OP 5d

Okay, and so what? They are both adults. The “maturity gap” doesn’t mean two people can’t have a mutually beneficial, satisfying, and equitable sexual encounter. And this notion of maturity is ageist anyway, being patronizing and infantilizing of young adults.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Very likely to get into a dangerous situation or get manipulated. The brain of an 18 year old is VERY different from someone who is 25+

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Anonymous OP 5d

The whole “the brain isn’t fully developed until 25” is actually pseudoscience, if that’s what you’re referring to.

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Anonymous #4 4d

Actually it has recently been found that the age of “maturity” is later than previously thought, more in your early 30s. It’s in fact not pseudoscience, science results just change and develop as more things get discovered

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Anonymous #5 4d

We are never fully “mature”, we change throughout our lives.

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Anonymous #4 4d

We get it. You like children.

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Anonymous #4 4d

“Historical lack of sufficient concern” What history is this that doesn’t show sufficient evidence of abuse in age gap relationships?💀 The history is WHY there is concern because historically, people in those relationships (especially women) tend to be stripped of their autonomy. What you should’ve said was the mountain of evidence against your child-loving nature is not enough for you to be dissuaded from fucking children. Keep it a buck.

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Anonymous #4 4d

Did you get that from your pedo website?😂😭😭 We’re never fully mature? No shit. However, we’re not all at the same maturity level and people take advantage of the naivety of others. But maybe we should start permitting adults to date toddlers because “we’re never fully mature and change throughout our lives”. Weirdo💀

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Anonymous #4 4d

Dang, you guys really went at it. #4, the fact they’re olympic contenders is actually why I think it’s such a big concern. They’re part of something larger, desperate to win, probably being sponsored and coached etc which puts those ppl in a place of power over them, and being crazy athletes and basically celebrities, I imagine they’re considered quite desirable to some. It’s not just the age but the position of desirability, desperation, isolation and appeal to authority that puts them at risk.

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Anonymous #3 4d

Do sponsors and coaches stay at the Olympic Village? I thought it was only the Olympic contenders themselves. And I don’t see how any Olympic contender would have power over another— they are all in the same boat.

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Anonymous #4 4d

Valid in theory, but things aren’t always so simple in practice. Still, idk if it happens or not, not is more likely. Even so, having a decent chance of it being true is still too much imo. They’re all adults so realistically they’re not being dumb and sticking to people their age and it’s all fine. But you never know and it’s good to be aware of the possibility

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Anonymous #3 4d

So you’re saying you have an issue with adults with an age difference getting together, regardless of the context?

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Anonymous #4 4d

No. But it’s super complicated. This kind of thing needs approached with a lot more nuance than you’re giving it.

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Anonymous #3 4d

I thought I was giving nuance, saying that depending on the context, it could or could not be concerning. Fellow Olympic contenders at the Olympic Village did not seem like a concerning context to me for the reasons I explained.

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Anonymous #4 4d

That’s so fucking stupid why would them both being Olympian’s change anything dude😭 please cut this weird shit out

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Anonymous #6 4d

Meaning that they are both contenders, and that neither is a coach, referee, or in some other a position of power or influence over the other.

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Anonymous #4 4d

Being older and stronger can be a position of power

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Anonymous #6 4d

Stronger? And how is being older in and of itself a position of power, especially when people are coming together from all over the country and the world and aren’t likely to see each other again unless they both choose to, except for maybe at future Olympic events?

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Anonymous #4 4d

You don’t think age gaps can cause a power dynamic? Don’t act stupid

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Anonymous #4 4d

Oh, I see, that’s fair then. I thought you meant that it had to be all or nothing because of the last message, my mistake.

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Anonymous #6 4d

Not inherently in and of themselves, although people who are older are more likely to be in a position of power over someone younger than the other way around. I suppose there could be somewhat of a power differential in terms of adult life experience and knowing how to navigate the world as an adult, but that is less significant than someone being in an actual position of power over someone, like a boss, teacher, or coach.

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Anonymous #6 4d

Also, power dynamics don’t automatically make a relationship exploitative or unhealthy, they just make it more feasible for it to become such.

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Anonymous #4 3d

Hence why I said age gaps CAN cause a power dynamic..

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Anonymous #6 3d

Correlation does not equal causation.

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Anonymous #4 3d

You literally said yourself the difference in life experience can cause a power difference lmao

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Anonymous #4 3d

I’m gonna be real with you. I don’t think age gaps are inherently that bad. The thing is public opinion, it’s a slippery slope. If we decide that 16 and 19 is okay, that makes 15 and 20 look less bad in comparison. It’s the Overton Window phenomenon. It’s REALLY important that anyone who lacks finance, strength, undeveloped thinking, and influence in society - kids - are never put into a position where they could potentially be sexually abused, especially repeatedly. Best to avoid it altogether.

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Anonymous #3 3d

As it is, I’ve seen multiple women get into whirlwind marriages at like, 18, and once they’ve moved in together and the girl is preggo, the guy starts revealing his personality bc she’s trapped financially and by the baby, and didn’t know better beforehand. That’s horrible as it is, but accepting lower ages into that dynamic makes it much worse very quickly. The overton window is better skewed towards the other extreme, honestly.

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