
Completely genuine question here but shouldn’t we be supporting women if they want to wear a bra or not? Most women in my life sorta have that outlook it seems like, which makes sense to me. Wear it if it works for you and don’t if it doesn’t kinda thing. Why is it different for someone like this? Bc she’s famous or what?
But a lot of famous women were very sexual and openly and are highly respected for pushing forward women's empowerment. Like Madonna, Diane Lane, Pamela Anderson. I just know that she was in Euphoria and she did the jeans ad so I don't really get why women in particular seem to hate her so much.
Maybe I don't follow her enough but I never got the impression that she's doing it for the male validation. She seems like she's doing it because she knows she's basically the most desirable woman in the world. Which all sex symbols in the past have acted like that. So what's she doing that's different?
Girls who have a bigger chest tend to get sexualized way too often. So when Sydney Sweeney started getting popular, everyone thought that the big chest girls were finally gonna get the inclusion they deserved. And it was that first but then she slowly started sexualizing herself. She did an ad for a body wash. The ad starts with her in the bathtub and she says “hello you dirty boys. Are you interested in my body…wash?”
I mean she can’t control being born with a bigger chest tho right? And what would inclusion mean? That she’s famous but doesn’t ever sexualize herself? I just don’t see how this doesn’t turn into ‘she should act this way because she was born this way’ which seems to be obviously not the right way of looking at things
Then she did another ad where she says “boys only want one thing” and then the camera zooms in on her chest. She did the American eagle ad where she says something about jeans and the camera zooms in on her chest and she says “hey eyes up here” and then a male voice in the back says “Sydney Sweeney has great jeans.” Her ad about WOMEN’s jeans appeals to her male audience rather than her female audience. Her constant sexualization of herself has affected the way some men treat big-chest women
Okay but I thought that behavior was standard fare for sex symbols since forever. And I thought point was she's not doing it for male validation, she's doing it to show all the thirsty men what they will never have and to show that a woman should feel comfortable and open with her sexual aspects versus repressing it as the religious Right would have everyone do
Maybe she wanted to make an ad that would do both? Trying to get what's so horrible about an ad that capitalizes on her status as a sex symbol/gets male attention and also shows off new women's clothing. Like an ad for women's clothing should only ever contain things women like, otherwise it's horribly wrong?
Yeah also sorta thinking this. How are we supposed to assess that she’s doing this for a male audience and that that is somehow harmful to other women? Sometimes famous sexy men do ads for things that women buy and sometimes famous sexy women do ads for things that men buy. How is that inherently harming women/ not supporting women?
I don’t think in particular women hate her, I think it’s more that they don’t like how publicly sexual she is, she also was in a heydudes commercial I’m pretty sure and for some reason that was sexual? Women empowerment for sex and just being sexual for no reason are two different things
There is a difference between wanting to make sexual things normalized for women because women shouldn’t be embarrassed to say, buy a sex toy or something, but publicly putting on a “sexual” voice while doing ads and saying things that are sexual in order to get media attention are completely two different things. She also accepted those roles knowing what they were, I think she probably wasn’t getting enough publicity so she wanted to try something else.
I don't know, the only comparison I can think of is maybe the Victoria's Secret fashion show? Married couples love that shit. Maybe women see it and think "I want to be so hot that men will want me but can't have me!" Do women not value feeling desired by men? If no men desired you, that wouldn't make you feel insecure?
So you are basically saying she's doing the whole sex symbol thing in a cheaper/less classier way? I think I understand that, but I think sex symbols have done that since the beginning of whenever sex symbols was a thing. Only recently have I noticed such a huge backlash, mainly from girls who just recently became adults.
and that’s not to say that those people probably got backlash as well. I think a lot of people, especially women are sorta preferring a bit more modesty now days. I’ve gone through the whole revealing crop tops, tight shirts, short shorts, and now I’m getting to the point where it’s like not attractive to me. I think nowadays we are kinda tired of seeing other people’s entire body’s and privates because we see it everywhere, including where it is deemed inappropriate.
The descent of the youth and America in general into far-right madness and conservative tinged attitudes, especially where sexuality is concerned, is truly sad to witness. Personally, I think it'll end (or begin?) with a significant rollback of women's rights... Cheered on with cries of "modesty" and "shame." 😔
If no men desired me, I would be chasing bugs. A man has desired me, therefore I chase bugs with a boyfriend standing awkwardly nearby. Some of us base our self-worth around our humanity and behavior and truly don’t care about our attractiveness to the huzz. Only reason to care is if your life goals include partner/family
I think if you believe dressing sexually will change women’s rights I feel you are to closed minded, there is nothing wrong wanting to dress modestly, and I say this in a sense of just not having your boobs and butt out or being able to see your nipples through your shirt. Honestly, I feel uncomfortable and I believe a lot of other women do as well and there is nothing wrong with that. I’m not saying everyone should but I personally prefer it.
That is a different question but I wouldn’t really say it’s better. Especially since I was ideally hoping for an answer to my question. You can definitely dislike anyone for any reason, there’s not much to debate there. I was talking to people here who dislike her for the way she uses her body and how she markets towards men. I’m wondering how you can tell that she’s sexualizing herself in the right or wrong way?
Right, pop stars show off their femininity and sexuality a lot. Project 2025 and modern feminists seem to not like that. Feminism legitimizing Project 2025's goal to curb women's sexuality will legitimize the rest of the movement which will result in the return of things like normalization of wife beating.