Anonymous #1 12w

I don’t think that was the point of the post at all. I think it more geared towards men calling women, in the right context, females as a dehumanization tactic. I think the complete disregard for the point of the post kinda proves their point

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Anonymous #4 12w

It’s a dehumanizing tactic that’s now used by right wing alpha male podcast bros to shit on women. Some women don’t care, some women do. I would just stay away from the word if woman would work just as fine because many women, me included, just end up feeling very dehumanized by it.

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Anonymous #3 12w

🤓

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Anonymous #8 12w

I feel slightly like a broken record here lol but that’s because it’s a dehumanization tactic and they want u to feel that way when they call u a female

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Anonymous #5 12w

Nope. Female and woman are different. One is sex, the other is gender. Physical vs mental

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Anonymous #10 12w

Are the two screenshots of exactly why women find it dehumanizing not enough for u?

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Anonymous #3 12w

those are just opinions. idc. to me woman and female are the same. as a female i can say that 💕💅

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Anonymous #10 12w

Then why bother asking

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Anonymous #10 12w

Female is used as a term for animals and humans regarding the sex of an individual…. I think that says enough

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Anonymous OP 12w

idk how that is seen as bad. to each their own

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Anonymous #10 12w

I’m also a woman, is ur opinion somehow more important than mine?

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Anonymous #3 12w

no idc about yours

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Anonymous #10 12w

“Idc about how other women feel about a historically dehumanizing word” is not the gotcha moment u think it is lmao it just scream internalized misogyny but pop off ig

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Anonymous #3 12w

i can tell ur a liberal. goodbye.

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Anonymous #10 12w

Lmaooo I can tell ur a conservative, providing nothing to the convo, is rude, and leaves when they can’t make up another way to be right💀💀

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Anonymous #5 12w

Calling someone a “female” is dehumanizing

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Just say ur transphobic and leave

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Anonymous #3 12w

i’m not conservative. i didn’t leave. thansk! i just don’t understand why ppl are so soft over words. fucking babies lowkey. i don’t need to be right. i’m j here to be here😺😹

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Anonymous #3 12w

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA dead

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Anonymous #10 12w

Someone using female to be intentionally dehumanizing is disrespectful and rude. People don’t like the word in that context and get upset over it BECAUSE THATS WHAT ITS MEANT TO DO

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Anonymous #3 12w

where’s the transphobia

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Anonymous #3 12w

i can use any word to be rude. right.

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Anonymous #10 12w

I mean like duh, but the fact that any word can be used in a negative context doesn’t take away from my previous statement

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Anonymous #10 12w

Calling someone mentality ill for pointing out that sex and gender are different, which is a fact, implies transphobia and the fact they haven’t clarified what they meant if not transphobia solidifies it

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Anonymous #1 12w

female = sex. woman = gender. sex ≠ gender.

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Anonymous #3 12w

OP overall post is saying that the two words have major differences and if u don’t agree u don’t support women’s equality like huh and it don’t tb context. j the word. i can use woman terribly towards ppl….. i agree more w u over OP tho ⭐️

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Anonymous #4 12w

it implies sex and gender are the same thing, which excludes trans/nonbinary people.

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Anonymous #10 12w

Yeah I’ll agree that the original post confuses me in the wording, but I’m more talking about what they meant, not just on what they said

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Anonymous #3 12w

not everyone thinks that way. they gotta be more clear fr w they opinion

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It’s just transphobia that u slap religion over. I honestly don’t care what u think about trans people to urself, but when u get on the internet to shit on trans people or try and try to put in laws opposing them, that’s when the issues arise. This falls under the “they came on the internet to talk shit about trans people”

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Anonymous #5 12w

I disagree with transgenderism. I believe you have the right to do it, but just don’t push it on my children. That’s my only requirement. I also believe you have a mental illness. I don’t hate you. Just like I don’t hate another person who has depression or anxiety.

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Anonymous #5 12w

U literally came into the comments of a post not about trans people to complain about them, ill admit in a roundabout way so u can claim u weren’t, its giving obsessed. And who is pushing it onto ur children? Allowing trans people into media we consume and into the public sphere isn’t pushing them on u, just like how straight and cis people being in the media is pushing it on me

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even if you “don’t agree with” being trans (which is ridiculous because gender is a social construct and being trans is part of a social identity whether you feel it is justified or not) gender and sex are still scientifically two different things.

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Anonymous #12 12w

Explain the biology and science behind it then? Besides XY and XX chromosomes. All a social construct is, is a made up set of beliefs in which I do not have to believe. That is not science .

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Anonymous #12 12w

Not to mention that being trans isn’t a mental illness, like actually this is a fact, the only thing close is gender dysphoria, which the “treatment” is just being trans, whatever that mean to them

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Anonymous #5 12w

The biology is sex, gender is a social construct. How a person dresses/presents to the world is a social construct. What’s masculine and what’s feminine changes all the time, that’s why it’s a social construct. We made up that women wear dresses, men used to wear dresses until, say it with me, the social construct changed.

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Anonymous #5 12w

And saying u don’t believe in gender is stupid. U choose to follow the gender construct everyday, ur just refusing to acknowledge it. If ur a women who wears makeup or dresses, ur following the social construct like how if ur a man if u don’t ur also following the social construct. U can’t just say no and speak it into existence

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Anonymous #3 12w

And who made that fact?

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Anonymous #5 12w

biology isn’t the only science in existence. the distinction necessary to study psychology, completely regardless of your personal beliefs. there are anthropological implications of being a man or being a woman in a society that uses those identities. you’ll still get an f in a gender studies class if you don’t participate, whether you see it as valid or not. you could apply that to literally any field of study and just choose not to learn.

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Anonymous #5 12w

The World Health Organization

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Anonymous #12 12w

(using man and woman here as an oversimplification that excludes other genders that have been around in eastern countries since prehistory since we need to wrap your head around the basics you’re not arguing first)

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Anonymous #6 12w

someone else having a broken back doesn’t make a muscle cramp hurt any less

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Anonymous #3 12w

Which was made by a social construct, not science .

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Anonymous #5 12w

as someone with 2 engineering degrees working on a 3rd, social sciences are equally as valid as hard sciences

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Anonymous #5 12w

I don’t even understand the point ur trying to make. The point I’m making is that while being male or female is biological, not talking about intersex people, but gender is a construct therefor trans women dressing like women and wanting to be treated like a woman according to our current gender construct is a nonissue

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Anonymous #3 12w

This actually explains my point perfectly. If I want to believe a Social construct and go along with it, like makeup, I can do that. Just like someone who believes transgenderism is okay can do it. IF I DONT LIKE A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT, I DONT HAVE TO AGREE WITH IT. Simply put.

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Anonymous #5 12w

if you don’t want to wear makeup, no one is making you wear makeup, but if you argue that it doesn’t exist just because you don’t want to wear it, your argument is equally as invalid

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Anonymous #5 12w

But u have zero right to tell anyone else that they’re wrong because gender is a construct. U don’t have to agree with it, but getting on the internet to be rude to trans people makes u transphobic and FUCKING RUDE

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Anonymous #3 12w

I was just replying to a thread 🤣🤣 I have every right to believe what I do just like trans people have the right to do and believe what they do what they please. I’m not refusing to believe that they exist, or that a social construct exist. I personally just belief that the meaning of the words sex and gender are the same. That is my belief, obviously social constructs exist? That was never my argument

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Anonymous #12 12w

Again, not arguing that the social construct exist. I see that it does. That was never my point. I just do not agree with the social construct.

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Anonymous #5 12w

Sex and gender r not the same thing that is an actual fact. Sex is about biology and gender is a made up social construct formed around the idea of sex, that correlation doesn’t mean that the words r the same.

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Anonymous #3 12w

Explain to me why for years this was never an argument when the words have always exisited? But yet now it does?

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Anonymous #5 12w

Because trans people r more allowed in the public sphere and that allows for more conversations about things like sex/gender and how they relate to trans people.

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Anonymous #3 12w

My point being here, is that it was not always believed to be different. Which means it has not always just been a solid objective “fact”. It’s subjective, to the person, my subjective fact is that the words are the same, just as it always has been. If someone wants to say they are more fem or masc then say that, it’s not “gender” it’s a style, If anything.

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Anonymous #5 12w

And because if u were trans like 50 years ago, it was very likely people would murder u for being trans. Now that we can talk about things like this without the threat of violence, the conversation has grown significantly. It also has something to do with the rise of the red pill media and their blatant hatred for trans people, sending trans people on the defensive to justify their existence.

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Anonymous #5 12w

Sex and gender r two completely different things and that is a fact

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Anonymous #11 12w

Comment section full of people who are itching to be butthurt

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Anonymous #5 12w

Saying that people used to think those two things were the same is like saying people used to think lightning was Zeus, so the science around lightning must be subjective. Science changes all the time because we learn more every second. What used to be fact turns out not to be, so it say we used to think they were the same doesn’t mean that it’s fact

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Anonymous #3 12w

Just accept I have the right to believe something is wrong just like you have the right to believe it is right. Obvious the social construct exist. I disagree with this construct. Which is okay to do.

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Anonymous #5 12w

Ur allowed to be wrong, but if u want to be loud and wrong and rude on the internet im not just gonna sit here and let u spew misinformation. I have every right to point out the flaws and inaccuracies in ur argument

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Anonymous #15 12w

scroll up

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Anonymous #12 12w

Yeah but like, why does it matter ? I’m not trying to be mean. Just for an understanding.

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Anonymous #3 12w

I posted these above too but I think they might’ve gotten buried

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Anonymous #3 12w

Female

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Anonymous #3 12w

So it’s basically just a perception issue? Then it shouldn’t matter unless they let you know it’s to be rude. The term is only bad if it’s used as a bad thing. Just like a knife. So one shouldn’t always assume that it should never be used because it’s a bad thing right? Otherwise it’ll always be perceived that way. Not that it matters. I say female and male around people all the time and it’s never been an issue. It’s just part of my vocabulary. I guess I should be more careful then?

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Anonymous #15 12w

If the people ur referring to think it’s insulting, maybe u shouldn’t use it in that context. But im not here to police ur words, u asked why i gave u an answer, just know going forward some women r just gonna see u as rude if u call them a female

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Anonymous #15 12w

It is like a knife, I think that’s a good analogy Sometimes people use a knife to attack other and some other times, when we are using a knife to cut food, we accidentally end up cutting a finger too We can use the knife with the best of intents, but before we do so we should be mindful to ensure that no one’s fingers are in the way

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Anonymous #15 11w

people telling you words don’t mean what you think they do in current society isn’t a perception issue. it’s a transmission issue. the entire point of language is that it’s used to communicate with other human beings in a mutually understood manner.

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Anonymous #19 11w

“we do this thing you don’t like. don’t like it? join us.” what???

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Anonymous #1 11w

I’ll do my best to explain for you, 1! So basically, when people refer to a lady as "female," it can feel dehumanizing because it's a broad, scientific term that can apply to animals as well. I and a lot of ladies prefer being addressed as a "woman" or "lady" because it recognizes personhood beyond biological category. A lot of guys do this intentionally and exclusively to ladies on purpose to be sexist, sadly. You don’t hear them call other guys ‘males’. :(

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Anonymous #1 11w

I feel like this is very likely not what OP meant - I do hope that info could be comforting to some degree! I hope I explained okay - I’m not too articulate, unfortunately. 😭🤙

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Anonymous #12 11w

Womp womp

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if only protecting yourself from discrimination was as simple as wearing a helmet

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you wouldn’t survive a single day as a cro-magnon hunter-gatherer, but that’s not what we were discussing here either

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antifeminism is based on the obsolete hunter-gatherer male-female social archetype. the comparison has nothing to do with being a black man. your insecurities about that were caused by societal oppression, the same way women are sensitive about sexism for a reason. the argument is invalid because you’re playing oppression olympics, not because you’re a black man.

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Anonymous #12 11w

not because black men don’t struggle, to word that better. no one is saying there isn’t systemic oppression of black men. but just because you are hurting too doesn’t mean others aren’t.

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Anonymous #12 11w

Professional yapper

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Anonymous #19 11w

obviously the person arguing with me deleted their comments

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Anonymous #12 11w

Oh mb queen. Go off 💅🏻

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Anonymous #19 11w

they said women don’t have a right to be upset about sexism bc “you wouldn’t survive a day as a black man” and then that it was racism to tell them they wouldn’t survive a day at the time in history a sexist society would have been at all helpful. you can tell when someone is replying to a deleted comment bc it is indented like a reply but there is no second number at the top.

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Anonymous #12 11w

like i can see being sensitive about being called less sophisticated than a modern human as a black person, but the specific comment had nothing to do with them being black in context, and it’s hypocritical to be scolding other marginalized groups for being sensitive to comments that ‘aren’t intended as offensive’ if you’re going to turn around and call someone racist out of context.

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Anonymous #3 11w

Ima still say female, idc about reading the thread, yall being children ab it

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