Anonymous #6 12w

this is some twisted logic 😂 maybe it’s your own fault is crazy

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Anonymous #1 12w

Ok ok right or wrong if people are constantly asking for money is it my fault for giving them access to me to even ask or is it there fault their fault I’m always around them ? Maybe that was a bad analogy

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Anonymous #6 12w

… it’s their fault for always asking for money, it has nothing to do with you. now yes you have the power to stop the situation but distancing yourself from them but that doesn’t mean it’s your fault the situation was happening in the first place

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Anonymous #1 12w

*by distancing yourself

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Anonymous #1 12w

I mean ig but if I have the power to kinda control what happens then i would personally say it’s partly my fault if not mostly

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Anonymous #1 12w

I just think maybe I need another crowd to be around if all they do is ask for money but I was never one to wanna be around any crowd anyway but for this sake

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Anonymous #6 12w

well in this case you don’t have the power to control people thinking the world revolves around them. there’s literally no logical way this would be anyone’s fault other than the person with the ego

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Anonymous #1 12w

Ofc not that’s not what I’m saying but if you stay around people who make u feel that way then y are u still around them is what I’m getting at more so I’m saying it’s your own fault because you don’t have to engage in conversation or be around them

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Anonymous #1 12w

I’m not faulting them for someone else behavior and ideas but more so being around them

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Anonymous #6 12w

where’d you get the idea that op was staying around these people? just because you’ve experienced something or been around someone doesn’t mean you are actively staying in that situation. it’s like if someone had been ghosted a bunch of times, would you say “well if you think about it it’s your fault for talking to people who ghost” like what? it’s the ghoster’s fault, most people don’t willingly engage with someone like that.

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Anonymous #1 12w

Well u make a great point but them comes the problem of generalization because you can’t tell me every man they’ve come into contact with believed this and as far as the ghosting situation ur right but I have friends that if I text them they’ll text back and if I call them they’ll answer or call back but at the same time it’s their fault for ghosting but they don’t owe u an answer tbh

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Anonymous #6 12w

i don’t disagree that generalization is a problem, i was just disagreeing with you somehow saying it’s op’s fault lol. i also don’t really understand the last part of your comment because i wasn’t talking about friends i was talking about like people on dating apps or something. if you constantly get ghosted that’s not your fault. if you constantly run into egotistical people that’s not your fault either

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Anonymous #1 12w

I’m not saying it isss forrr sure their fault but it’s possible that it could be that’s all I’m saying and the last part like I said people don’t owe you and answer on dating apps if you’re boring or ur just not attractive to them whatever the reason is they don’t owe u an answer so move on that’s all no it’s not ur fault if u run into them but staying around them is that ig is the part im getting at

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Anonymous #6 12w

i didn’t say they owe you an answer, that’s so besides the point, it was just an example. and like i said you don’t know that they stay around them, they could’ve just run into people like that. it’s just weird to say maybe it’s your fault lol. like if someone got catcalled all the time would you say it’s their fault for going in public where they might get catcalled. weird af to shift the blame that’s all i’m saying

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Anonymous #6 12w

like nowhere did op imply that she stays around guys like that on purpose so you commenting that maybe it’s her fault is just weird

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Anonymous #6 12w

again i agree with you that generalizing is bad but you could just say “not all guys are like that” the only thing i disagree with is you saying “maybe it’s your own fault” because that makes no sense

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Anonymous #1 12w

Yea but at the some time neither you or I know their situation and people tend to blame others for unfortunate situations so I was proposing the idea that maybe themselves are the one to blame im not saying they are to blame but it would be unfair to say that everyone else is wrong and not themselves as for the catcalling no it’s not ur fault and im not saying a agree that women should be catcalled and im not saying it’s fair bc its not but if we’re being honest a women that showing more

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Anonymous #6 12w

Are gonna be catcalled more then a women wearing baggy clothes just so we are clear tho I do believe women should wear wat they want

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Anonymous #1 12w

Is it wrong to tell someone to look in the mirror first before pointing the finger to blame ???

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Anonymous #6 12w

it’s an extremely weird thing to do when the situation is such that the other person is clearly in the wrong. if a guy gets cheated on would the first thing you say to him be “maybe it’s your fault she cheated just saying” like okay maybe in some extremely rare situations where he was abusive it could be his fault but it’s weird to say that when generally that’s not the case.

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Anonymous #6 12w

also it just doesn’t make sense when the complaint is about OTHER PEOPLE. like how can it be anyone’s fault that someone else is the way that they are

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Anonymous #1 12w

But u can’t speak on the situation bc just like me you don’t know the situation u gave ur pov i gave mine doesn’t make u or me right it’s not weird to offer another pov and if a guy gets cheated on no it’s not his fault persay but there can be self blame ways to improve yourself but cheating is a bad example cheating is just terrible

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Anonymous #6 12w

i was just saying there are better ways to disagree with a generalization than pinning the blame on someone who hasn’t done anything wrong (other than generalizing) based on the context we have. if you still don’t get my point after my examples then it’s fine atp i give up lol

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Anonymous #1 12w

I’m not saying it’s their fault for someone being the way they are I’m saying it’s their fault for staying around I just don’t think it’s ok for people to work around complaining and generalizing other people like their shii don’t stink either

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Anonymous #6 12w

i don’t know the situation but i’m not making any assumptions. all i know is people who are egotistical are bad. your claim was based on the assumption that op chooses to stay around them. my claim stands whether or not op stays around them or not. egotistical people are fault no matter what, op is only at fault if what you’re assuming is true. and you are assuming based on nothing

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Anonymous #1 12w

I understand what ur saying and what I’m saying is ofc we never say things to put blame on ourselves if you were in a situation arent u gonna make it seem like ur the angel and u did no wrong to get validation from others ?? That’s how most people are so I think it’s fair to say that it’s ok to hold people accountable regardless but I do hear you

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Anonymous #1 12w

🤦 I did say the op isn’t at fault for others people behavior but more so if they stay around the same people. I’m not making assumptions I’m just saying that maybe it’s a possibility that the op should look at themselves first before pointing fingers abt the people they are around or the people that come around them

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Anonymous #6 12w

you said if you think that maybe it’s your own fault. i disagree that thinking something about other people could ever be your own fault. if i think a person is egotistical based on their actions that’s not my “fault” regardless of if i stay around them or not. now generalizing what i think of one person to other people is a problem, which i agree with you on like i said, but you should’ve just said that.

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Anonymous #6 12w

like if a guy came on here and said “women are so shallow” my first instinct would not be to respond “well maybe it’s your fault for surrounding yourself with shallow women” ykwim. i would be like okay you obviously think that due to some interactions you’ve had but not all women are like that

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Anonymous #1 12w

I think it is your fault if u have certain beliefs abt people ok for example i dont agree with this at all but if i say black people only like fried chicken based on me seeing them eat chicken is that not wrong an ignorant? And my fault ?

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Anonymous #1 12w

Ofc that’s ur pov which isn’t wrong and my pov would ask why is he always around shallow women like they’re definitely traits you can kinda of tell by shallow people even tho there aren’t always right

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Anonymous #1 12w

I think the bigger issue here is the generalization rather then the different pov that you or I have and who’s to blame for it

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Anonymous #6 12w

that’s completely different because the fault in that case has to do with generalization which i agreed was bad. the fault in your original comment had to do with being around people with a negative trait. that’s like saying “it’s your fault you only surround yourself with black people that like fried chicken” see how that makes no sense?

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Anonymous #1 12w

it would be different if you said “you’re in the wrong for making an assumption about black people based on what you’ve seen” or you could’ve said “you’re wrong for assuming that about men” but it doesn’t make sense to say they’re at fault for being around men like that

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Anonymous #1 12w

But that’s the thing if your only surrounded by black people who eat fried go explore go find other black people that and see if they eat fried chicken but u can’t say that based on the people you’ve seen bc u don’t see everyone

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Anonymous #1 12w

Ok let me ask you this then I’m done am I wrong for saying someone should also be accountable when they choose to point the finger of blame

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Anonymous #6 12w

alr you’re not getting my point because that again is about the generalization, and that’s fine bc this has been going on too long lmao. we can agree to disagree

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Anonymous #1 12w

Yea ig

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