Anonymous #1 1w

But wouldn’t that still have a negative impact of women as a whole being seen as less than and objectified?

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Anonymous hellraiser 1w

Yes I understand that, it isn’t what I’m talking about or trying to ask. If this action is seen as bad and not something that should be done as in the objectification of people why is fine that I do it to myself, shouldn’t it still be frowned upon

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Anonymous OP 1w

No because doing something to yourself doesn’t automatically mean other people are allowed to do it to you. Plus, objectification is literally treating someone like an object. It’s really hard to reduce my own self to an object because I know I have thoughts and feelings and opinions because I’m human. But somebody else objectifying me means they see me as less than human, or at least are treating me as such. So I guess what do you mean by women objectifying ourselves?

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Anonymous #3 1w

If objectification as a whole is not good wouldn’t the person doing it willingly be considered unwarranted if it negatively paints an image of people

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Anonymous #4 1w

I wanted to ask this question because I saw a video of someone being against the objectification of women in fiction like video games or books right. I was thinking why is this person very against the idea of women being objectified in fiction with either very attractive features or scant-ally clad clothing but didn’t have a care that real women with these features are actively doing the same thing

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Anonymous OP 1w

You are against having this happened in fiction because it paints a bad image for real people but are fine with real people doing the same exact thing which still paints a bad image/idea

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Anonymous #5 1w

Yea I understand that, I didn’t put enough context in the question for what I’m asking

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Anonymous OP 1w

No no there’s plenty of context. It’s very simple really, it’s fine for women to objectify themselves bc they are consenting to that objectification. They don’t consent when you decide to do it to them without permission

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Anonymous OP 1w

Ah so you mean sexualizing, not objectifying. Well it’s simple then. Women can sexualize themselves if they want to because they’re sexual beings who can control their own bodies and how they present themselves. But when media goes out of the way to paint all women in this light, it’s perpetuating harmful stereotypes. Why does every single female video game character have big breasts and wide hips, even when it makes no sense for the plot?

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Anonymous #5 1w

The reason why I said I didn’t put enough context into the question is because I was not referring towards people purposefully objectifying other people

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Anonymous #6 1w

The place where women are sexualized most is literally video games… plus if that’s the only role available to act in, then you don’t really have a choice

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Anonymous #4 1w

Fake women ≠ real women. Do you really think there is more sexualization of women in games than in Hollywood? 😂

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Anonymous #6 1w

Yes because practically all female video game characters have impossible bodies with wide hips, big breasts, and skimpy clothes. It’s actually ridiculous.

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Anonymous #4 1w

So ignoring your generalizations. You find fake women being sexualized worse than real women

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Anonymous OP 1w

Objectification is objectification regardless of whether or not it was intentional

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Anonymous #4 1w

Another question I have is what if it’s that creators specific artistic choice that they want those characters that they made to have those specific type of body shapes. What if they modeled these characters after these real life people that act in an objectifying way and have these type of bodies. An example I can think of is stellar blade where the creators stated they hired and modeled the main character after a real life model/actress from Korea.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Is it fair to say they shouldn’t be able to make the character look like that even though they hired and used real life people that have those type of features

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Anonymous OP 1w

What about other forms of media like a game like “love in deep space” with it having mainly male characters in an objectifying way. Another example being smut books that describe in detail certain objectifying characters of people

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Anonymous #8 1w

Objectification is when someone sees another person as something other than a human with inherent value (sometimes in subtle ways). It is always in the mind of the onlooker. A perfect person would be able to look at the most sexualized image and see only a person with value.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Onlyfans is often seen as better than, say, a corporate ad that uses scanty clothing to draw male attention, because it puts most of the agency in the hands of the person whose body is on display. Whereas with an ad, it is a company using an image of a person for the company’s gain, and the person on display has less agency. Agency is related to humanity, so more agency = less objectification.

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Anonymous #8 1w

But honestly I think the world would be fine without Onlyfans, porn, and sexualized ads altogether.

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