Anonymous #1 13w

ESPECIALLY if they are already in the medical field

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Um if you have been trained in cpr you are taught the signs. And if you do what you're suppose to do and contact the authorities or have someone around contact them while you are doing it there should be no reason as to why you should be penalized. Also if your that nervous you do realize that if you're not a medical professional you simply don't HAVE to perform it right?

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Imo if you care more about how you are being perceived than potentially saving a life then there are bigger issues in hand. One time a child was choking and instead of waiting for the parent I performed the heimlich maneuver on a toddler. At first the mother who found us was upset that I was holding their child until I told them and they saw the chunk of food the child coughed up.

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My point is people will judge and may look at a situation incorrectly but not only are there literal laws to protect Good Samaritans but I feel like its more fulfilling to know that your actions saved someone

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But im saying if you cant tell then dont do it, again if you have been trained in cpr they teach you the signs but if thats not enough then dont attempt and call for help. If you have a good feeling that they do need cpr and you choose not to perform it then thats a choice

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But the prompt was referring to sexual assault not general anxiety

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Anonymous #2 13w

Because the fear of sexual assault is totally different than the fear of performing cpr bc you don't know if its required

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But im saying those two reasonings aren't synonymous is my point. One is fear of actually harming someone because of misjudgment, the other is about being falsely accused if they perform the action

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I’m not denying that people can feel different anxieties. My point is that subjective fear doesn’t make two situations the same. Fear of committing harm and fear of being falsely accused while attempting to save a life are categorically different in intent, likelihood, and morality. Understanding how someone arrives at a fear isn’t the same as treating that fear as comparable or justified.

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Fear or harming someone is part of the anxiety someone would have when treating someone. But whether its sexual harm or physical harm to their well being (chest compressions and potentially breaking a rib for instance) was my point.

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You've also gone off topic at a point in this conversation...

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I’m not denying that anxiety can blur things together for some people. My point has always been that “fear of unnecessary CPR” and “fear of sexual assault accusations” are not the same category of fear, even if someone conflates them emotionally. Explaining how anxiety works isn’t the same as showing those fears are equivalent, which was my objection. You say that nowhere was fear of harm mentioned but you never specified what "unnecessary cpr" was.

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Anonymous #2 13w

You were the one that implied equivalence of the claims but then retreated to “I’m simply saying through anxiety someone could be scared to be seen as a creep” which is a much weaker claim than you had before

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Anonymous #2 13w

Essentially you previously combined two different fears, “The fear of doing it when it’s not required is basically being seen as a creep or SA” into one big fear when in actual they deserve separation.

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Anonymous #7 13w

Name them

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Anonymous #7 13w

I’m calling absolute bs. I know multiple emts and rescue staff and they have never once been sued or reprimanded

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Anonymous #5 13w

See how people have resorted to lying to make this a bigger issue than it really is

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Anonymous #2 13w

It’s so absurd

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Anonymous #7 13w

the good samaritan law would have shut that down immediately idk what ur on about

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Anonymous #8 13w

A women who is unconscious cannot consent

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Anonymous #9 13w

Ok so you just wanna be an idiot

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Anonymous #7 13w

Incorrect

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Anonymous #11 13w

also that would be a HARD argument to make to a judge…

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Anonymous #11 13w

This actually *is* the reason women get less CPR. Partially. Many CPR certified individuals don’t know proper hand placement on females because CPR dummy dolls are primarily male, which don’t take into account breast. So even females who do receive it sometimes receive improper CPR. It’s very sad that just having Female CPR dolls could drastically help this

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Anonymous #13 13w

Women health in general has always been on the back burner unfortunately, women are so understudied

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Anonymous #3 13w

the question is stupid, but you’re speaking out your ass rn. statistically, women receive bystander CPR less than men, and surveys show it’s because some of the men are worried about inappropriate touching. so yes, it’s an issue. that’s why female manikins are being used in training now. acting like ts doesn’t exist just obstructs real change.

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Anonymous #14 13w

Just stop taking lmfao if someone needs CPR then they will get it. You sound dumber than the person asking the original question

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Anonymous #3 13w

do you use google or do you get all your info from your brain cells hitting each other like bumper carts? genuinely. this is well-known info. prejudice exists no matter how hard you pretend it doesn’t.

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Anonymous #14 13w

Wdym prejudice 😭 your response might be the worst yet. I don’t need google to tell me that a choking person needs CPR. A doctor does not care about potential assault history of a choking individual, they care about helping them. Imbecile.

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Anonymous #3 13w

are you genuinely braindead? women not receiving CPR and DYING is fucking prejudice. just because you think this isn’t a thing doesn’t mean REAL WOMEN arent DYING. closing your eyes to the issue doesn’t mean it isn’t real.

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Anonymous #3 13w

No, they’re right. Not for medical professionals but women are less likely to receive bystander CPR. This is fully a fact. And it’s one of the health disparities that women face

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Anonymous #12 13w

^ maybe I’m being to volatile but it genuinely pmo how few people consider it a real issue :/

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Anonymous #14 13w

Literally!! Ts is genuinely my Roman Empire

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Anonymous #12 13w

Have y’all read Invisible Women? It’s full of facts like this. For example not until recently were crash tests done with female shaped dummies 🤦

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Anonymous #2 13w

Yes and the women that are/were used in medical studies were typically minorities due to them not understanding the specifics due to language barriers or being in more desperate financial situations. Not to mention things like seatbelts, airbags, and crash test dummies that are pretty much entirely made for the average man

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its refreshing to see intelligent, well-spoken people argue

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Anonymous #19 13w

Wait this is a great point

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Why I pointed out this was mainly in China. Lol

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It’s what Google pointed out

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Anonymous #22 13w

you realize it’s well studied that some men DO avoid performing CPR on women because of that misconception…

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