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Do you think that men would avoid doing CPR on a woman because of fear of sexual assault?

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Yes

810 votes

Anonymous 3d

if someone is dying i’d hope they care more abt saving someone’s life than the chance that it is seen in a sexual way

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Anonymous 3d

What a stupid question to ask. No, a responsible male medical professional would not avoid something to save someone’s life from the sheer possibility that they may have been sexually assaulted

Anonymous 3d

Bro what lmao if a woman needs cpr im doing that shit. There’s no world where she going to come to after I save her LIFE and instantly go “assault!”

Anonymous 3d

If you’re more concerned about assault than saving a woman’s life I hope you seek some help. I wouldn’t question a person’s motives if they’re giving someone CPR

Anonymous 2d

If you are CPR certified you should know there is nothing sexy about it…

Anonymous 2d

Women are less likely to get cpr from a bystander so this could play into why. It’s not sexual assault if someone’s saving your life though.

Anonymous 2d

This is odd… you’re asking “would you rather a man let a woman die instead of performing lifesaving procedures because I think of the female chest as only sexual”

Anonymous 2d

U don’t even have to do mouth to mouth for cpr. If u don’t have a mouth piece they usually tell u to do chest compressions only

Anonymous 2d

Men have argued that because there even a small chance of them getting their life ruined, it’s valid to be hesitant or not at all want to do CPR on a woman but can’t comprehend that women stay away from most men cause of the chance of them physically harmed.

Anonymous 2d

There have actually been studies done on this and a lot of men WILL avoid doing cpr

Anonymous 2d

It would depend on race, a brown man got jailed in Florida for stopping a kid from falling and racists thought he was trying to molest or kidnap the kid (video proof he wasn’t). As a mixed guy I would find a nearby woman or white man to perform CPR

Anonymous 2d

I googled this. Yes, there have been widely reported cases of men being publicly accused of sexual assault or harassment for performing life-saving CPR on women, particularly in online discussions and social media. These accusations, even if not resulting in successful legal action, have contributed to a documented fear that deters some men from providing aid. This is mainly in China

Anonymous 1d

if you voted yes you’re a fucking idiot. get fresh air

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Anonymous 3d

As a professional rescuer I've seen many colleagues get sued/reprimanded when giving aid to female persons when doing everything down go the book

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Anonymous

#1 3d

ESPECIALLY if they are already in the medical field

Anonymous

#2 3d

Real doctors no but like the average guy who maybe knows CPR might question like are they actually in danger or not and be worried to do CPR in a case it wasn’t needed and then be seen as a weirdo. Not necessarily for every guy but I could see that thought process

Anonymous

#4 3d

Um if you have been trained in cpr you are taught the signs. And if you do what you're suppose to do and contact the authorities or have someone around contact them while you are doing it there should be no reason as to why you should be penalized. Also if your that nervous you do realize that if you're not a medical professional you simply don't HAVE to perform it right?

Anonymous

#2 3d

Yes theoretically there is no reason anything bad should happen but lots of people have anxiety and make up bad situations in their heads. Personally I had CPR training and I don’t remember anything about hot to tell if a person needs it or not I just remember the whole call, start compressions, keep the rhythm part. Yes it’s true you don’t need to do CPR if you’re not a medical professional and that’s exactly what the prompt asked, would men avoid it. I just gave one example

Anonymous

#4 3d

Imo if you care more about how you are being perceived than potentially saving a life then there are bigger issues in hand. One time a child was choking and instead of waiting for the parent I performed the heimlich maneuver on a toddler. At first the mother who found us was upset that I was holding their child until I told them and they saw the chunk of food the child coughed up.

Anonymous

#4 3d

My point is people will judge and may look at a situation incorrectly but not only are there literal laws to protect Good Samaritans but I feel like its more fulfilling to know that your actions saved someone

Anonymous

#2 3d

I’m glad you were able to act and help that child but not every situation is so obvious. Sure if someone went oh my chest hurts and then fell down then most men probably wouldn’t have a doubt or worry of being mistaken. Yeah if you’re more worried than you value human life that’s a problem, which is why I said the scenario it could make sense is when you can’t tell if their life is in danger. Again it’s not about laws or fault it’s literally just an anxiety thing making up things in their heads

Anonymous

#2 3d

The same way a person with social anxiety is probably more afraid of a scenario in their head than actually what happens when they go out, somebody with anxiety problems who can’t tell if it’s absolutely a time for CPR might be worried, not about being in trouble with the law but just in general to have done something “wrong”. I’m not saying any of this reaction is good or right I’m just saying how it could happen

Anonymous

#4 3d

But im saying if you cant tell then dont do it, again if you have been trained in cpr they teach you the signs but if thats not enough then dont attempt and call for help. If you have a good feeling that they do need cpr and you choose not to perform it then thats a choice

Anonymous

#2 3d

That’s literally what I was saying lmao. If you can’t tell you might choose not to. That’s what the prompt asked

Anonymous

#4 3d

But the prompt was referring to sexual assault not general anxiety

Anonymous

#2 3d

Because the fear of sexual assault is totally different than the fear of performing cpr bc you don't know if its required

Anonymous

#2 3d

The fear of doing it when it’s not required is basically being seen as a creep or SA for touching a woman unnecessarily

Anonymous

#4 3d

But im saying those two reasonings aren't synonymous is my point. One is fear of actually harming someone because of misjudgment, the other is about being falsely accused if they perform the action

Anonymous

#2 3d

Not really. You’re deciding what the specific fear is onto the hypothetical person. Every persons anxiety from this situation could be different. Someone might be anxious about harm but someone could be anxious about something else like being accused of assault. All I’m saying is it’s not a crazy jump to see how someone could get to that point of reasoning. Not that it’s right or that a rational thinking person would necessarily think that

Anonymous

#4 3d

I’m not denying that people can feel different anxieties. My point is that subjective fear doesn’t make two situations the same. Fear of committing harm and fear of being falsely accused while attempting to save a life are categorically different in intent, likelihood, and morality. Understanding how someone arrives at a fear isn’t the same as treating that fear as comparable or justified.

Anonymous

#2 3d

Nowhere in this conversation was fear of harm mentioned until you just said it. The entire time before that I was talking about a possible anxiety of the situation being seen as creepy for unnecessary CPR

Anonymous

#2 3d

Even if that were what we were talking about, it still is completely irrelevant to the question of whether or not men might not give cpr because of fear relating to assault

Anonymous

#4 3d

Fear or harming someone is part of the anxiety someone would have when treating someone. But whether its sexual harm or physical harm to their well being (chest compressions and potentially breaking a rib for instance) was my point.

Anonymous

#4 3d

You've also gone off topic at a point in this conversation...

Anonymous

#2 3d

Not really. I’ve been talking about one specific fear this entire time. Again what you’re talking about exists sure, but that’s not related to the question or what I have been talking about. Fear of harming them probably is a part of it but I’m simply saying through the logic of anxiety someone could be scared to be seen as a creep for touching someone unnecessarily

Anonymous

#4 3d

I’m not denying that anxiety can blur things together for some people. My point has always been that “fear of unnecessary CPR” and “fear of sexual assault accusations” are not the same category of fear, even if someone conflates them emotionally. Explaining how anxiety works isn’t the same as showing those fears are equivalent, which was my objection. You say that nowhere was fear of harm mentioned but you never specified what "unnecessary cpr" was.

Anonymous

#2 3d

You were the one that implied equivalence of the claims but then retreated to “I’m simply saying through anxiety someone could be scared to be seen as a creep” which is a much weaker claim than you had before

Anonymous

#2 3d

Essentially you previously combined two different fears, “The fear of doing it when it’s not required is basically being seen as a creep or SA” into one big fear when in actual they deserve separation.

Anonymous

#2 3d

It’s implied that in a conversation about being accused of SA that if there is fear it would be related to being accused of SA. Your original comments were that people should be able to tell when cpr is needed or that they shouldn’t be worried. You then tried to introduce the idea of harm rather than the anxiety of an accusation when what I said was “the fear of doing when it’s not required is basically being seen as being a creep or SA”

Anonymous

#7 3d

Name them

Anonymous

#7 3d

I’m calling absolute bs. I know multiple emts and rescue staff and they have never once been sued or reprimanded

Anonymous

#5 3d

See how people have resorted to lying to make this a bigger issue than it really is

Anonymous

#2 3d

It’s so absurd

Anonymous

#7 3d

the good samaritan law would have shut that down immediately idk what ur on about

Anonymous

#8 3d

A women who is unconscious cannot consent

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Anonymous

#9 3d

Ok so you just wanna be an idiot

Anonymous

#7 2d

Incorrect

Anonymous

#11 2d

also that would be a HARD argument to make to a judge…

Anonymous

#11 2d

This actually *is* the reason women get less CPR. Partially. Many CPR certified individuals don’t know proper hand placement on females because CPR dummy dolls are primarily male, which don’t take into account breast. So even females who do receive it sometimes receive improper CPR. It’s very sad that just having Female CPR dolls could drastically help this

Anonymous

#13 2d

Women health in general has always been on the back burner unfortunately, women are so understudied

Anonymous

#3 2d

the question is stupid, but you’re speaking out your ass rn. statistically, women receive bystander CPR less than men, and surveys show it’s because some of the men are worried about inappropriate touching. so yes, it’s an issue. that’s why female manikins are being used in training now. acting like ts doesn’t exist just obstructs real change.

Anonymous

#14 2d

Just stop taking lmfao if someone needs CPR then they will get it. You sound dumber than the person asking the original question

Anonymous

#3 2d

do you use google or do you get all your info from your brain cells hitting each other like bumper carts? genuinely. this is well-known info. prejudice exists no matter how hard you pretend it doesn’t.

Anonymous

#14 2d

Wdym prejudice 😭 your response might be the worst yet. I don’t need google to tell me that a choking person needs CPR. A doctor does not care about potential assault history of a choking individual, they care about helping them. Imbecile.

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Anonymous

#3 2d

are you genuinely braindead? women not receiving CPR and DYING is fucking prejudice. just because you think this isn’t a thing doesn’t mean REAL WOMEN arent DYING. closing your eyes to the issue doesn’t mean it isn’t real.

Anonymous

#3 2d

No, they’re right. Not for medical professionals but women are less likely to receive bystander CPR. This is fully a fact. And it’s one of the health disparities that women face

Anonymous

#14 2d

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Anonymous

#12 2d

^ maybe I’m being to volatile but it genuinely pmo how few people consider it a real issue :/

Anonymous

#14 2d

Literally!! Ts is genuinely my Roman Empire

Anonymous

#12 2d

Have y’all read Invisible Women? It’s full of facts like this. For example not until recently were crash tests done with female shaped dummies 🤦

Anonymous

#2 2d

Yes and the women that are/were used in medical studies were typically minorities due to them not understanding the specifics due to language barriers or being in more desperate financial situations. Not to mention things like seatbelts, airbags, and crash test dummies that are pretty much entirely made for the average man

Anonymous

#4 2d

its refreshing to see intelligent, well-spoken people argue

Anonymous

#19 2d

Wait this is a great point

Anonymous

#20 2d

China is a fundamentally different society than us so that wouldn’t apply to us

Anonymous

#17 2d

Why I pointed out this was mainly in China. Lol

Anonymous

#20 2d

Side note the Chinese incel problem is fucking insane lmfao

Anonymous

#17 2d

It’s what Google pointed out

Anonymous

#22 1d

you realize it’s well studied that some men DO avoid performing CPR on women because of that misconception…