Anonymous #2 2d

Yes it’s important, but men should not be benefiting from what women had to go through

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Anonymous #3 2d

this is just a CRAZY response to me. no one's saying men should get paternity leave instead of women getting maternity leave. why would we not want the best possible environment for an infant? like??

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Anonymous #2 2d

Me personally im ok with dads taking time off of work for newborns but I don’t it’s fair for them to be getting paid during their time off

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Anonymous #4 2d

jesus christ lol america is a fucked country forever if people are arguing against more benefits for parents

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Anonymous #2 2d

I’m arguing for more fairness for women, men already have too many benefits

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Anonymous #2 2d

yeah this country is cooked

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Anonymous #4 2d

do you not understand that paternal leave is a benefit for new mothers too? still having an income (potentially two incomes), having another pair of hands during probably the most stressful busy time of a person's life, and the proven developmental benefits for a newborn of having both parents around. it is better for every single person involved

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Anonymous #2 2d

You’re repeating a right wing/republican talking point

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Anonymous #3 2d

i promise you that republicans are not in favor of more rights for workers. go look up parental leave policies in any country that is more progressive than america.

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Anonymous #2 2d

You said that babies benefit from both parents in the home, which is a racist talking point used against black and brown single mothers

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Anonymous #3 2d

bro WHAT look up literally any iota of childhood/developmental paychology research and it is proven over and over again that children benefit from spending time with both parents and growing up in a less stressful environment. i know republicans talk shit about single parent homes but that is BECAUSE they are racist and using that as an excuse. that doesn't make it untrue that dual parent households have better outcomes for kids but even that is beside the point (1/2)

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Anonymous #2 2d

i'm talking about mom not having to be up all night every night to change every single diaper and help the baby get back to sleep, i'm talking about having someone else around to help clean and cook, i genuinely do not understand how you can argue that having two people there instead of one would not make the mom's life easier like?? are you people real??

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Anonymous #2 2d

I don’t think anyone is arguing against two parents in home, the topic is about whether it’s fair for men to getting paid paternity leave even though they didn’t go through physical pain during pregnancy

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Anonymous #4 2d

do you genuinely only conceptualize maternity leave as getting repaid for the physical pain of pregnancy? i disagree but if so then i can't argue with your logic. i think of parental leave aa trying to socially and financially incentivize providing the best possible environment for a newborn and that is the sole factor we should base it on. having both mom and dad at home is better for mom, dad, and baby, so as a result we should have maternal and paternal leave.

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Anonymous #4 2d

About 73% of companies don’t have paid paternity leave or paid maternity leave. The argument doesn’t even apply to most people

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Anonymous #6 2d

I’m a feminist, and I believe that paternity leave is important. It allows another steady income into the household and another pair of hands to help. Some families find it hard to afford babysitters or childcare so this makes it much easier and allows the child to have time with both parents. Plus, sometimes a mother dies in childbirth and the father has to take on all responsibilities. That leave allows him to support and spend time with his kid

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Anonymous #1 2d

They get time off to be with their partner and new baby…

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Anonymous #1 2d

they’re still the father…as a woman i would want the father to be going on paternity leave while i go back to work. it shouldn’t just be women who get that advantage. what women go thru vs what men go thru during pregnancy has NOTHING to do with the fact that the child should get to spend time with the mother AND the father. men still provide for their pregnant wives and help out around the house even if they aren’t going thru the physical symptoms of it.

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Anonymous #3 1d

I actually want men to step up and be actual parents instead of sitting around taking no responsibility and being at work all day. You’re telling us you don’t want that?

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Anonymous #14 1d

Being at work IS taking responsibility. They do need money to feed the baby and themselves, and keep a roof over their heads. Someone needs to do that. I’m all for paid paternity leave but if they don’t have that, don’t shame them for going to work and feeding their spouse and child.

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Anonymous #15 1d

It definitely can be, but if he never takes breaks then he’s not fully parenting, only providing. If paid parental leave is available then fathers should absolutely be taking advantage of that, mothers shouldn’t be the only ones expected to physically care for their children. No shame if only maternity is an option, but if it isn’t and the dad still doesn’t try, ick

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Anonymous #14 1d

I don’t think men should get paid paternity leave, the women have to suffer through pregnancy and post pregnancy. And yet men are benefitting from what women had suffered from. Men should be able to take time off but not get paid for no reason

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Anonymous #4 1d

They’re not getting paid for no reason, they’re getting paid to spend time raising their child, which is another full time job. Obviously women went through the pregnancy and birth and the men didn’t, but acting like it takes no effort to physically raise children is absurd, and if the father is the only one with a job (or the highest paying one), he should still be able to receive that paid time off to keep providing financially, such is the case in most traditional families

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Anonymous #4 1d

r u fr? that’s still HIS child. HE should get the benefits too. maybe yall just always hate men and sometimes i do too depending on what they do but it doesn’t matter if he wasn’t the one pregnant, he should still be able to spend time with his child because honestly at least to me, family and your kids are much more important than a fucking job.

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Anonymous #3 1d

Context is always important! This conversation had nothing to do with race.

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Anonymous #4 1d

What happens if the baby is adopted? Or if the couple uses a surrogate? No one gets leave then yes?

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Anonymous #13 1d

This is likely a man asking. Look at all the women’s answer and somehow you came to conclusion about women hating men

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Anonymous sleepin 1d

Mind you, you would NEVER see men defending women like this.

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Anonymous #18 1d

No parental leave applies to adoptions as well

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Anonymous #6 1d

Feminists are pro paternity leave. What are you on about?

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Anonymous sleepin 1d

So what if its a man asking? Don’t mean their aren’t any femcels in these comments

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Anonymous #18 1d

What u talking about? Men put women on pedestals just for existing.

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Anonymous #13 1d

So you’re telling me that you believe that when people post misogynistic things, men DEFEND women?😂😂😂😂😂 Best joke I’ve heard today!

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Anonymous #13 1d

Sexually objectifying and desperately lusting over women isn’t the same as putting them on a pedestal or actually respecting/caring about them

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Anonymous #3 1d

Need the weed strain that makes you say shit like this

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Anonymous #11 20h

women are also more likely to be fired instead of taking maternity leave or have their position filled when they get back 🫩

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Anonymous sleepin 20h

their comment says they are a feminist and pro paternity leave chat

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Anonymous #13 16h

I think you are projecting. A man prob posted this, and you use this to justify women hating men. That’s so bizarre. Anything to play victim. Maybe you project your hate to other gender

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Anonymous #3 11h

Benefiting? Paternity leave benefits mom and baby. My husband was on paternity leave. I got to bedrest for almost a month.

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Anonymous #3 10h

You have got to be a troll trying to stoke racism. There is no way anyone believes what you’re saying sincerely. Holy shit.

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Anonymous #3 5h

Unless a parent is toxic… babies benefit from two parents.

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