Anonymous strawberry_hair 1d

Every girl I talk to wants to build a connection romantically before sex. So I guess it would start there.

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Anonymous #2 1d

I’m referring to my perspective

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Anonymous OP 1d

Okay but where does that lead into the women only want sex with each other?

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Anonymous strawberry_hair 1d

They seem more open to it especially in experimental phases of their lives

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Anonymous OP 1d

But what makes you say that?

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Anonymous #2 1d

Every girl Ive ever talked to wants to build a romantic connection before sex

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Anonymous #2 1d

And a lot of times the sex never came

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Anonymous OP 1d

so? what are u even saying lmao. just bc a woman wants to establish a romantic connection before sex doesnt mean she doesnt like sex

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Anonymous hellraiser 1d

It just feels that way. It just feels a lot of women think that sex is a chore when it’s done with men, which is why it’s postponed until after romantic connection is established. obviously unless someone is like demisexual or something.

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Anonymous OP 1d

That doesn’t mean we don’t like sex though, or that we like sex but with women. It’s just some of us prefer to know the person that’s potentially sticking their penis into us before we have sex. It may be easier for you to just have sex for the heck of it but some of us do want to be careful

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Anonymous OP 1d

not exactly a logical way to think about it. a lot of women just want a romantic connection before having sex because sex is extremely intimate and requires an amount of trust/ connection to be enjoyable for some. there is a portion of women that don’t enjoy sex that much in general, but i don’t really think that’s the group you’re running into.

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Anonymous hellraiser 1d

Well, the logic is this…if you want sex, you’d just have it whether or not there’s a romantic connection. If you postpone sex until after a romantic connection, it sounds like you don’t like sex that much. A better analogy would be this….if you like coffee, you buy it frequently…..if you like a hot bath, you take one once in a while. But if you only take a hot bath once in a while, you could do without it. which makes me wonder if you even really like it that much or at all

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Anonymous #2 1d

Sapphic sex seems easier to come by then heterosexual sex. Even if the people participating arent sapphic. I’ve known so many women whether they were bi or straight, who were willing to do things with women that they would postpone doing with men. Even if they didn’t even know those women beforehand.

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Anonymous OP 1d

Sapphic sex is MUCH harder than hetero sex let me tell you that plain and flat out.

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Anonymous OP 1d

i feel like you just didn’t read or understand what i said. a lot of women just want sex under certain very reasonable conditions, like having an established connection with someone. that’s extremely normal. it doesn’t mean they don’t like sex if they don’t want to fuck someone random. it just means they view sex as something that should be done with someone you’re connected to emotionally.

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Anonymous OP 1d

That’s an absolutely crazy way to view sex. There’s an inherent danger in sex for women. That’s a factor you aren’t considering. A guy could get an STD but women could get: STD, Yeast infection and pregnant. There’s also the physical aspect which makes it more dangerous. I can want sex and my fear of actually having it with someone I don’t know can overtake it.

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Anonymous OP 1d

yeah saphic sex is def harder to come by than hetero sex as a woman. looking for a man that wants to have sex is like going outside in search of a blade of grass.

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Anonymous strawberry_hair 1d

if that’s true, doesn’t that make my point even more? But besides that i’ve seen so many free entries for women to lesbian orgies. Pre-entries for women to regular orgies. I’ve heard so many sorority stories. I don’t know it just seems like it’s happening a lot more over there.

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Anonymous hellraiser 1d

I don’t know about that I’ve just seen so many opportunities for women to have sex with other women personally whether it’s a group thing or one on one. There are couples begging for unicorns like I don’t know if this is something that’s difficult to come by. And so many women who have taken advantage of that opportunity that it doesn’t sound like it’s not happening very frequently.

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Anonymous OP 1d

men certainly in general have higher sex drives, and are more on the unrestricted side of the sociosexuality spectrum, but that doesn’t mean women don’t like sex with men.

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Anonymous OP 1d

why are you (a straight man presumably) assuming that you have more insight into this than a woman who actually has sex with women? pipe down. there are certainly opportunities to have sex with other women, but not more than with straight men.

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Anonymous hellraiser 1d

bisexual women are still more likely to have more sexual experiences with men

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Anonymous hellraiser 1d

I DO NOT think the conditions are unreasonable. I just think the conditions say something about the relationship that that person has with sex, which may be more hot bath than coffee. And if it’s more hot bath than coffee, then I think that it’s not really a desire.

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Anonymous OP 1d

i really don’t understand how you’re not getting this. i personally don’t need an emotional connection to want and enjoy sex but can still absolutely understand those that do. its like if someone didn’t want to have sex with someone they weren’t attracted to, you wouldn’t say that they just didn’t like sex.

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Anonymous strawberry_hair 1d

The factors that you mentioned are mitigated by condoms. Unless you’re talking about like a physical danger where your life is threatened. Which is understandable. But as you said sapphic sex is hard to come by so even if that physical danger aspect wasn’t there, the trend wouldn’t change

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Anonymous hellraiser 1d

Which is where the analogy that I said comes into play. If sex for you is more hot bath than coffee then you can do without the hot bath and if you can do without the hot bath, do you really like hot baths?

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Anonymous hellraiser 1d

I’m not saying that there are more opportunities to have sex with women as a woman. I’m saying that a lot more women take those opportunities than they would take the opportunity to have sex with a man. Even though there are more opportunities to have sex with men as a woman

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Anonymous hellraiser 1d

See if you said romantic experiences, I would agree with you, but you said sexual experiences and I don’t think that’s true

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Anonymous OP 1d

yeah just because you can do without something doesn’t mean you don’t like it.

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Anonymous OP 1d

stop pretending that you know the experiences of women better than actual women lmfao

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Anonymous hellraiser 1d

Well, the conversation is about having sex with people that you are attracted to in the first place. The point I’m making is that women are more open to sexual experiences with other women than they are to men and on top of that sex two women seems to be more like a hot bath than coffee

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Anonymous hellraiser 1d

I disagree. I don’t mind pickles on my burger, but if it’s not on there, I’m not gonna miss it and if I’m not gonna miss it, I’m might as well not ever have it on the burger.

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Anonymous hellraiser 1d

I don’t know women’s experiences better than women do, but not acknowledging that women have more opportunities to have sex with other women than men do does a disservice to this conversation.

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Anonymous OP 1d

No one owes you sex just bc you like sex. Plain and simple. That’s not bot sexual compatibility or sexual desire works. People don’t need to have sex just because they like it so you can say “women like sex”

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Anonymous #2 1d

No one said women owe me or anyone anything. Idk where you got that from. Also Ppl don’t need to have coffee either but they still go out of their way to get it regularly bc the like it

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Anonymous OP 21h

There’s a difference between getting coffee and a random dirty penis with potential STDs

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Anonymous #2 21h

Wow you’re a disgusting person

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Anonymous #2 18h

It’s it’s an analogy

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Anonymous #2 18h

How am I disgusting?

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Anonymous OP 17h

No correlation or similarity for it to be an analogy. You just think because people like sex it means they have to have sex when it’s offered otherwise they likely don’t as much as you want them to like it. You’re disgusting and likely don’t understand people have reasons and/or boundaries

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Anonymous #2 17h

Before I address your misunderstanding of my analogy. How in anyway do you think that I’m telling people that they have to have sex as soon as it offered? What makes you think this is about anything outside of consensual sex? When did I make a command for people to do something they didn’t wanna do?

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Anonymous #2 17h

You don’t have to like sex. You’re not a bad person for not liking sex either. And never did I ever imply that.

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Anonymous OP 17h

Who said I don’t like sex just because I want to have a connection with the person first? Why do you think people can’t have connections in order to have sex before you assume they only would have sex with women or prefer it? I don’t sleep with women, and I prefer to have a connection before sleeping with a man. Does that mean I don’t like sex?

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Anonymous #2 17h

I don’t think that you do like sex to be honest. But that doesn’t mean that you’re a bad person if you don’t like it or that I’m condemning you because you don’t like it.. people can very much so require connection before sex. i’m just saying if you do require that then it doesn’t sound like you like sex.

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Anonymous OP 17h

u dumb as hell tbh.

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Anonymous hellraiser 17h

How did you come to that conclusion?

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Anonymous OP 15h

Weird assumption. I like sex but just because I’m not going to accept sleeping with a random bozo doesn’t mean I don’t like it. I don’t have to accept every dick on the planet

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Anonymous #2 15h

Just because there’s no romantic connection doesn’t mean it’s random. But the “stranger to familiarity” thing that you’re doing immediately without further questioning, makes it sound like you don’t like sex

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Anonymous #2 15h

And you are correct you do not have to accept every dick on the planet.

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Anonymous OP 15h

It literally doesn’t. I don’t have to fuck strangers to like sex. In fact, no I don’t like sex. At least in the way you’re referring. Because the way you’re trying to interpret sex is, “women sleep with anyone they meet that wants to have sex with them because they are equally horny and stick their dicks in anything”. So if that’s the case then no I don’t like sex bc I’m not a sex addict like you are

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Anonymous #2 13h

No romantic connection doesn’t mean strangers inherently. And the fact that you think that I’m a sex addict because YOU can’t have sex without a romantic connection makes it sound like you don’t like sex

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Anonymous OP 13h

Any connection is a connection. So why must you think wanting that means women don’t like sex? I’m not going to say yes to a man simply bc they asked me to have sex with them

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Anonymous #2 12h

Wanting to not have sex with strangers is one thing. wanting to only ever have sex when you have a romantic situation is another. Which funny enough is where sapphic women come in because women seem so much more open for sex without romance connection with other women than they do with men. But since you don’t date women, it sounds like you don’t like sex at all.

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Anonymous OP 12h

If women are wanting romantic connection before sex then that applies to all genders not just men

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Anonymous OP 12h

Just because I don’t want you sticking your disgusting penis in me with no romantic attachment doesn’t mean I don’t like sex. It simply means I don’t just let any unworthy person have access to my body. Bc u value myself, my body, and my health. And I’ll be damned if a man ever ruins my bodily or vaginal health bc he was sex deprived and told me I don’t like sex bc I won’t fuck him

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Anonymous #2 12h

How does it apply to all genders?

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Anonymous OP 12h

So are you an idiot? Why would romantic connection only apply to men if that person prefers a connection or to at least know the person they’re sleeping with. If they need to know them then that applies universally. It’s not a picky choice that’s their preference. Way to generalize women pal surely someone will want to fuck you after hearing this

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Anonymous #2 12h

I would never call your vagina disgusting, so you calling my penis disgusting kind of proves my point about you specifically. But to address what you actually said…sex does not “taint” your body. You do not “lose value” because you have had sex, or because you have sex without a romantic connection. Believing otherwise is patriarchal and harmful. You can have safe and healthy sex without a romantic connection. I don’t think you like sex, because the language you use around sex shows me you dont.

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Anonymous OP 12h

Calling a penis disgusting proves nothing sir. A lot of women do not enjoy the sight of penises they look like wrinkled wet deformed worms. It’s not the most comforting thing to look at. And yes it’s disgusting from the personality attached to it. An incel like yourself is trying to make up conclusions bc no one is sleeping with him. You’re kinda sad mate

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Anonymous #2 12h

To sum it up, I think that because you think that you lose value when you have sex outside of a romantic connection. That makes me think that you don’t like sex.

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Anonymous OP 12h

I never said I think I lose value so where did you get that conclusion from? Where did I say you lose value for having sex out of a romantic connection

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Anonymous #2 12h

There’s a difference between a neutral stance on it and calling it disgusting. But if you’re romantic partner, called your vagina disgusting you would feel bad. Because it looks like wrinkly old lady lips physiologically. But I’m not calling it disgusting. I am not an incel stop using that word. You have no idea what it means

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Anonymous #2 12h

“Bc u value myself, my body, and my health. And I'Il be damned if a man ever ruins my bodily or vaginal health bc he was sex deprived and told me I don't like sex bc I won't fuck him” by the way, safe sex exist for a reason and no one’s telling you to fuck random men. I told you that multiple times.

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Anonymous OP 12h

Literally makes no sense bc where did I say verbatim, “if you have sex outside of a romantic connection you don’t value yourself”. Seems you’re an incel who thinks he’s entitled to sex

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Anonymous #2 12h

I quoted where you said it. And you dont know what an incel is

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Anonymous OP 12h

I do. You don’t bc you’re in denial already about being a disgusting loser for how you view sex

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Anonymous #2 11h

How is my view of sex disgusting. And what is your definition of incel

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