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I feel like a lot of guys our age look down on women who had shitty breakups/divorces or got in bad relationships but as a guy who’s mom was in that situation, imo it often isn’t the woman’s naivety and ppl can hide their true colors. Would yall agree?
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Anonymous 6d

Yeah. Ive dated guys who were super romantic super nice in the beginning, then switch up out of nowhere or find out they’re lying about something major. Women don’t purposefully choose shitty guys. Women give these nice-seeming guys a chance and don’t find out until later on that they are not good partners.

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Anonymous 6d

I just think there’s a lot of victim blaming where people say “she should’ve known better” when firsthand I’ve experienced it and I can say, sometimes there is no way for the woman to know as people can completely change.

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Anonymous 6d

My sis was divorced before she graduated college. It was definitely not her fault. We’ve both gone through multiple awful relationships. I feel like no one should be judged or looked down upon for their past relationships unless there is a clear undeniable pattern that warrants judging

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Anonymous 6d

A recent study found that 95.1% of men who had some kind of sexual encounter within the last two years engaged in some kind of sexually predatory/coercive behavior. The problem isn’t that women are bad at choosing. The problem is that most men don’t have enough empathy for women to truly treat them well. Any time you try any man, chances are he will do something shitty.

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Anonymous 4d

I disagree. I don’t believe that any woman goes into a relationship looking for shitty guys, but many of them end up staying with them way longer than they should have. How can I trust a woman to keep our children safe if she can’t even respect herself enough to leave the moment she gets abused/cheated on, etc.?

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Anonymous 6d

Hi I am a guy that is a virgin by choice. I too am perplexed by the trust issue among people. What I see is either people with bad intentions or good people with bad experiences from bad people. Either way trust is low and barriers are high for good treason by some. What happens this becomes a maze and a jungle to navigate and for a person to truly trust another. It’s too much time and energy for this to happen while being too easy for a bad person to take advantage.

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Anonymous 6d

Stfu simp

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 6d

The only way around this is to invest in real communities and get to know people overtime in real life and make a pick there. The other odd thing I noticed is many don’t want to spend the time to do that which means they don’t have a way around from bad people wasting their time or bad experiences. So basically this is like some singularity event where peak internet culture doesn’t have a third space for people see each other in real life.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

Yeah, it’s just another excuse to avoid accountability.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

Ehhh disagree

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

Disagree with what? My lived experience? 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6d

What fucking study?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

Not saying your wrong but there could be a possibility that you’re in the minority of the matter

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 6d

Minority of what?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6d

I looked into the study and I don’t really agree with it. Saying this as OP here and I clearly support women. It considers some pretty stupid stuff to be coercive like “Had a female friend around to make the woman feel safe”. Like what do you want the alternative to be, just have men around her instead? Or like “Used your money, age, status to convince her”. Yeah… humans are materialistic creatures… we care about this shit. Should I just be broke and be a bum instead? Pretty misleading imo.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5d

There’s more people in the world than you, so they probably have different experiences

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 5d

Did I say my experience was universal? No. But obviously this happens enough to be a problem based on this post being made, the amount of upvotes, and other people’s comments sharing similar experiences. It doesn’t happen to everyone but it happens enough to be a fucking issue. I know people have different experiences, I never said otherwise.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 3d

For context, the study explicitly asked for their behavior AFTER SHE ALREADY SAID NO. All of that was an attempt to manipulate her feelings in some way to overcome her lack of consent. It is all predatory, and it is all unacceptable.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 3d

The study is called “Isolate, Inebriate, Intimidate, Repeat: High Rates of Sexual Force Against Women Are Reported When Young Men Given Anonymous Surveys”. It asks a bunch of men how they behave after being told “no” by a woman they want to have sex with. 95.1% tried to manipulate her in some way, using at least one tactic designed to influence her emotions or worse.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3d

How exactly do you measure something like that when not every no is the same?Some nos mean never some nos mean you can try again later. If a girl says no but keeps flirting with me hours later I’m not allowed to ask again?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3d

Ilyas.abdulin on tik tok debunked this study pretty well about a week ago. Only 12 of the 36 different strategies used are considered “forceful strategies”. And 62.6% of the men reported none. 37.4% of the sample reported to using at least one forceful strategy. 37.4% is the number we should be focusing on, not 95.1

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