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So what happened to genuine relationships, where expectations were realistic and both parties committed and were honest with one another? As a young man, tell me I’m not the only one asking where this went… where do you find high-caliber women, if any?
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Anonymous 2d

I have a genuine relationship. It’s great! Maybe stop using terms like “high-caliber women” as it sounds pretty demeaning and you may have better chances

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Anonymous 1d

I have no idea. I want the same thing but the majority of young people don’t.

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Anonymous 2d

Just know I mean well

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Anonymous 1d

If you’re asking for honesty you have to understand that it comes in layers like an onion and different areas come out the more you get close and that also depends in which way. Bf vs friends hear diff stories. You gotta foster a bond in hard times and support them like friends do unconditionally and without judgement at all times if you want FULL honesty you gotta hear mens names in our mouths for whatever reason

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

seconding this, I was pretty much onboard until I read that phrase and then my alarm bells went off

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2d

So what should we be using? Considering I use the term “trash/ bottom of the barrel/ low quality/ low caliber” men near daily?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 2d

Apologies, I had no intentions of coming across that way. High caliber os supposed to take on the connotation of genuine, sincere, and authentic

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

I am not incel-culture-driven in anyway shape or form

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

For what it's worth, if you had said "genuine, sincere, and authentic," I think you would have come off quite well

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2d

Fml, welp can’t edit the post. What’s done is done🤦‍♂️

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

Agreed with 2. High caliber just comes off as seeing other women as “lower”

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

I will retract my downvote as a gesture of goodwill

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2d

I know what I must do🤝

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 1d

Secondly, most women have extremely low standards now adays in comparison to what open and immediate access we have vs back in other eras. Men just cannot pass the bar to carry a convo, approach first, learn to be a conversationalists and have charisma, learn to actually flirt and understand pace and balance. Not to mention they don’t even met the subconscious attributes we unknowingly look for

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 1d

Understandable, but for a guy like me that can do all those things you mentioned, I just don’t like it when a women mistakes me for being the general stereotype of men fitting your description, and then because of that it doesn’t work out. That has happened way too many times with me before. It’s as tho I have no control over it. I get tossed into that bucket one way or another even if my intentions and character mean very well.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

This is really the wrong sub to ask these questions. There seems to be a lot of toxicity/ unrealistic standards here. Women love to say things like “if you want someone genuine be genuine yourself” which only works in a vacuum and an instances where you assume all women are good and mature. This is so far from the truth. Women literally seem to forget/ neglect the fact that just be being a guy, you are going to be compared against the last guy she had issues with and that proving you are

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

Nothing like him is incredibly difficult. None of this is black and white. The best thing I can say is be the best person you can be and tune out the noise. The only thing you can be expected to do with a woman is listen to her and take care of her needs. If you love her you will do that and the right woman for you won't be holding you to some arbitrary standard, rather holding you to what she wants personally. It does suck tho that especially in this generation, communication is nonexistent…

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Anonymous replying to -> strawberry_hair 1d

No the majority of young people are absolute ASS when it comes to communication. This is both a male AND female issue. And the best part? Your competition isn’t even someone they know IRL, it’s some random influencer they stalk on social media.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

And instead of downvoting you could answer the question and speak for all the women/men who routinely use this language

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

And before you ask I’m nonbinary so I have a lot of disdain for both genders (especially when it comes to communication)

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