Anonymous #3 6w

Bullshit.

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Anonymous #4 6w

Ok! 💞

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Anonymous #4 6w

Women attempt more

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Anonymous #4 6w

Men succeed more and drastically diff use in method

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Anonymous #4 6w

No scroll google results btw in case youd ever like to educate yourself whatsoever instead of believing whatever is spewed at you online

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Anonymous #2 6w

There’s actually a women’s mental health crisis too, but it’s always been happening so men (you) don’t actually care.

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Anonymous #5 6w

Ya I really don’t

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Anonymous #2 6w

Which is why women dont care abt the non existent mens mental health crisis, thanks for proving their point!

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Anonymous #3 6w

It’s not because of the method. Men are actually more successful no matter what method. Theres been a few studies on this. I’ll post the link to my favourite one. Educate yourself, stop spreading misinformation. https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12888-017-1398-8

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Anonymous #3 6w

The point was that now it’s just arguing women vs men and creating even more distance

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Anonymous #3 6w

Do you see on there that men are succeeding more REGARDLESS of the method?

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Anonymous #2 6w

Resupplying here so you dont have to waste your limited brain power scrolling, there is no gender issue in mental health, its fabricated by men so they can have an argument in the demographic struggle wars

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Anonymous #7 6w

Yes I can see that in the graph I provided! Did you also see that women think about, plan, and attempt at higher rates? Success has nothing to do with actual mental health

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Anonymous #3 6w

Read the study I linked. Most women are actually not attempting to kill themselves all the way, they are doing it for attention. Men genuinely want to die and don’t want attention.

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Anonymous #7 6w

I have multiple degrees related to societal gender studies and psychology, I know that study well and many others, the attempts are still based in mental health deficits no matter the reason so as I said comparing successes is a dishonest representation of data

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Anonymous #3 6w

If women aren’t attempting to seriously die then that shouldn’t be counted as a “suicide attempt”

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Anonymous #7 6w

The root of the attention seeking (which youre wildly overestimating btw, its a common misogynistic stereotype and not as common reality) is still a mental health rooted issue so yes, they should be counted

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Anonymous #7 6w

It’s because women tend to go for less messy attempts, men usually jump off bridges, shoot themselves, slit wrists. Women usually do less messy so people don’t have to clean up, such as drug od, or car fumes in garage, or hanging. So the methods that women chose are more easily able to save

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Anonymous #3 6w

Ur spreading fake news.

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Anonymous #7 6w

If you actually knew what you were talking about, instead of being a piece of shit, you would’ve known this and shut up

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Anonymous #4 6w

As I said, page 1 google results for "suicide attempt rates men vs women" and "suicide success rates men vs women", I have multiple degrees around the subject and even if I didnt the information is free for you to self educate

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Anonymous #5 6w

No it isn’t, it’s not about the methods. Please actually read the study. Actually, literally just look at the graph. Men are more successful REGARDLESS of the method.

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Anonymous #3 6w

READ THE FUCKING STUDY INSTEAD OF PRETENDING TO KNOW WHAT IT SAYS

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Anonymous #3 6w

First of all, if you have multiple degrees, you shouldn’t be on here and that’s creepy. This is an app specifically for students. Second of all, if men are attempting less but are still more successful regardless of the method LIKE WHAT IS SHOWN IN YOUR OWN GRAPH, then men clearly want to die more and are thus in more danger.

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Anonymous #7 6w

I did read it Ive studied this for years, you just dont want to admit theres bias in the data youre presenting or listen to anything anyone has to say against you, as I told #3 the information is free and publicly available for you to find on your own

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Anonymous #3 6w

I used to believe what you said and spread that same misinformation but this study is correct and you are wrong. I don’t know why you are so against this clearly documented truth but you should stop.

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Anonymous #7 6w

Im in grad school thanks! 23 if you must know, the only method statistically drastically different is firearms, those are the issue and danger, not a disparity in mental health, as shown by the ideation and attempt graph which is what I said in my original reply so we've know come full circle and youre still wrong and being unnecessarily rude because youre upset about that, have a blessed day though friend

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Anonymous #7 6w

So you’re literally gatekeeping suicides rn. Do you hear yourself? Like look in the mirror and say out loud “I am gatekeeping suicides because some people are so mentally hurt they are willing to commit suicide, but I think I should be the one to define what a suicide attempt is”. You’re talking about millions but you don’t actually care about people

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Anonymous #3 6w

the study I cited proves you wrong and you claim to know the study but I doubt you can even tell me the lead author or even the title without pulling it up

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Anonymous #5 6w

I didn’t define it, the people who wrote the study did because they asked people what they actually wanted and most women said “attention” and most men said “to die”

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Anonymous #7 6w

Of a sampled population for the study so not only do you admit to extrapolation but you also admit the definition theyve used for a suicide attempt is poor in nature, because as 5 said its gatekeeping suicide which youre claiming to disagree with, right.... as I said have a blessed day

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Anonymous #3 6w

I don’t mind gate keeping suicide when it keeps out people who just want attention

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Anonymous #3 6w

I don’t think attempt nor completion is a scientific way to asses mental health comparatively. We all know women compared to men are encouraged to be open and are more likely to seek help and report symptoms, leading to higher official diagnosis rates. If only look at attempt rates as a proxy for suffering, we would completely ignore the depth of untreated distress — which often goes unspoken until death.

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Anonymous #3 6w

Also they sampled 5212 cases which, if you’re a grad student in psychology, you should know is WAY more than what’s needed for the central limit theorem to kick in

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Anonymous #7 6w

You’re saying the girl who slit her wrists did it for attention

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Anonymous #5 6w

Yes

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Anonymous #5 6w

But for guys it’s an attempt

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Anonymous #5 6w

Yeah, everyone knows the phrase “sideways for attention long ways for results.” It’s callous but it’s true. They mostly do it because they feel like they’re suffering alone, and newsflash, everyone is suffering alone.

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Anonymous #5 6w

If the guy actually wanted to kill himself, yeah. Read the study.

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Anonymous #7 6w

But not if the girl. Got it

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Anonymous #7 6w

Is attention and suicidal ideation mutually exclusive though?

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Anonymous #5 6w

Statistically the girl is doing it for attention. You can ask her but the odds are that she just wants attention and the boy wants to die

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Anonymous #8 6w

These people don’t want to die though. They want attention

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Anonymous #7 6w

And boom, didn’t answer

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Anonymous #5 6w

Yes I did? If the girl wanted to die it’s a suicide attempt. If the boy wanted attention it isn’t. However, the stats show that the opposite is likely to be true for both

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Anonymous #7 6w

An attempt is an attempt. I don’t get why the reasoning matters. Both are equally trying to kill themselves

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Anonymous #5 6w

They’re literally not, that’s the point. Read the study, I’m begging you. As a psych student it’s one of the most interesting papers I’ve ever had to read.

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Anonymous #3 6w

As much mass shootings as we have in this country this is not far off. We sure do let guns run free in a place that is laaaaackung in mental health services

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Anonymous #7 6w

Imma need an example on this one

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Anonymous #9 6w

Rotary, Kiwanis, professional fraternities, Boy Scouts, golf clubs, union leagues, etc

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Anonymous #10 6w

Worth noting that I don’t agree with the male only policies that these groups had, but don’t downvote me when you ask for examples and I give them

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Anonymous #10 6w

I didn’t downvote you. I was answering only polls 😂 I think these answers are abit goofy considering this is was going back to mental health. How is women being involved in mostly mass organizations ruining men’s mental health? The Boy Scouts example for instance was started because parents wanted to send both their boy/girl kids to same clubs because there is a limit of Girl Scouts in certain communities. And Boy Scouts offers entirely different skills.

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Anonymous #9 6w

Yeah I’m not complaining, I’m just giving examples of groups that were male only historically

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Anonymous #9 6w

There’s a lot women have around “girlhood” where we look out for each other, mostly because we have to, and feel very connected to each other. Because of the patriarchy, men feel like they can’t have that outside of a gf or wife, which misplaces their anger onto us when they feel lonely. Men need to have more non toxic spaces where they can care for each other without judgement

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I agree with #13 but I was trying to fit I in one comment. But you have to recognize that there is resources out there and if they are being offered and they refuse there is very little a person can do to help. You cannot blame women because you won’t seek help

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I think there’s plenty of grey area and absolutely agree with your points here which is weird why it turns into a an argument when I say once again they cannot blame women solely for it and that’s what this always boils to. Once a month we get a post saying women are the reason men’s mental health are bad. And when we explain why it’s the patriarchy/society/systemic they continue to argue that it’s just women.

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As for a mental health professional there is nothing you can do to help someone if they do not want to be helped. You see this Ian cases of addiction too. If someone is shoving therapy down your throat but you’re not interested there is nothing they can do. So there is a level of accountability. It’s not the patients fault that it reaches the point it does but it is their choice to seek help when it’s offered.

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Anonymous #3 6w

You don't need to discredit a communities cry for help because it's misused as an attack on women. Maybe men purchase firearms FOR suicide, or at least with suicide in mind? Maybe their commitment to suicide is a sign of crisis. EITHER way, it's not the only argument for a crisis, and I don't see the need to attack it. Yk?

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Anonymous #4 6w

Right. Guns are readily available for purchase to anyone over the age of 21 who wants to kill themselves. Responsible gun ownership is the key, but obviously that’s not the only issue. This person‘s argument is narrow-minded. Knives are available to any six-year-old who can open a drawer. Why isn’t there a word in here against knife ownership? They can effectively damage the body too.

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Anonymous #14 6w

Did I say attack on women. I didn’t but it’s very telling you saw men and gun and thought women were at risk. Statistically they are but your brain made the connection with me saying it.

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I mean it is a societal issue, it’s just not women’s fault. The patriarchy hurts everyone, but instead of focusing their anger there, men frequently take their anger out on women. Men often view feminism as opposition to “men’s rights”, partially due to some very vocal people spewing hate from that side, when in reality feminism fights to destroy the patriarchy, which is the reason men don’t seek out help. No one’s saying it’s 100% their fault, but at the same time they are refusing to seek-

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Anonymous #13 6w

Help for themselves. They have to want to get better, no one can force them. Not only that, but the burden of their loneliness shouldn’t be placed on women’s shoulders at all. If you get rejected or someone’s mean to you, that’s just part of life and you have to build coping skills to deal with it.

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Anonymous #3 6w

Complete bullshit

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Anonymous #18 6w

We don’t even get to keep our genitals intact at birth and you wonder why dudes have mental health problems

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Anonymous #18 6w

It turns out cutting off an entire palm sized chunk of sensitive skin covering the penis has an actual effect on the ability to feel sexual gratification

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Anonymous #3 6w

I wonder why women’s rates are higher while men succeed. I wonder why… hmmmmmmm use that big brain you think you have.

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