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I (23 m) left the maga movement around 2 months ago for my liberal gf (20 f) helped convince to move on. Problem is that her friends, despite me trying to show how much I denounce Trump, still do not forgive, trust or even like me and just spew hate. Why
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Anonymous 1w

This sounds like a conversation to have with your girlfriend about her friends. Regardless it might take time for her friends to trust you. MAGA tends to have certain views regarding minority races, sexual orientations, and genders and I’m assuming some of these friends fall into that category

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Anonymous 1w

You did something that hurt others. Learning from your mistakes are important but that doesn’t take away the fact you caused people harm. I would also judge someone who was MAGA. They’ve caused a whole hell of a lot of harm. Give them time and show them you are a better person. Speak up for the issues you didn’t care about before.

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Anonymous 1w

You shouldn’t have educated yourself BEFORE voting for him

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Anonymous 1w

Because the world is still hurting because of ppl like you… like good that you recognize that it was a mistake but you don’t get to throw shit at the wall and then be mad that ppl complain about the smell

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Anonymous 1w

You should read books on ex-extremist. “The Klansman’s Son” is a good one

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Anonymous 6d

bc it’s partially your fault their gas is so expensive. denouncing does nothing to undo the damage you helped to happen and being sucked in to that imo means you are either dumb or selfish

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Anonymous 1w

Also you said that you aren’t liberal in the comments below. So WHAT are your views? I also see you said her friends are “white women liberals” as if that makes it better. MAGA is detrimental to ALL women. ALL women are affected by it— hence states with outlawed abortion, barely any education on sex or women’s bodies, and women are part of the minorities and were effected by the EEOC disbandment requirement

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Anonymous 1w

What a cuck am I right fellas

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Anonymous 1w

Ahhh manipulative. Politics brings out the worst in people. You’re being controlled. All parties have idiots unfortunately but that’s just America. Sounds like your gf and her friends forgot how to be decent human beings. Good luck man. I hate people who shit on others. Truly disgusting. Too many people pouring their soul into politics and just somehow forgot or decide not to treat people around them nicely. Anyone who mentions “MAGA” are trash humans.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Regardless, talk with your girlfriend about how to earn their trust and ask her if she can talk to them about being more open minded with you. She should encourage those behaviors. Also, two-months is not a long time so I would give it a bit longer imo

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

I’m sorry but even if your political views have changed marginalized people aren’t required to forgive you esp if those beliefs harmed other ppl in the process. You aren’t owed forgiveness, I think you just need to accept that some ppl will feel icky about your past involvement and choose not to befriend or be around you.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

This was directed towards op idk why yik placed my comment on this section

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

I figured that part no worries

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Anonymous replying to -> strawberry_hair 1w

But that’s just the thing- I DONT support him now! So why does her friends still blame me when I don’t support his views anymore?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Because you did support his views. And your past actions still have consequences.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I think if you were genuine committed to change you would understand why her friends would be apprehensive. Especially if they’re immigrants, women, people of color, people in the queer community or quite literally any identity that has been under attack under this administration. Are you really trying to grow or are you trying to guilt ppl into feeling bad for you for views you chose to hold that biting you in the ass bc they’re impacting your connections? Something to think about

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

I spoke with her. she’s really upset that her friends don’t want to associate with her because she’s dating me, I’ve been comforting her all weekend after she found out her best friends birthday happened and she wasn’t invited. I just don’t understand why so many people aren’t willing to see value in how people change. I totally understand that they don’t like regime, but they dont represent my views anymore and I don’t agree with maga. My girlfriend understands it, why can’t

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Her friends?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

My girlfriend is literally a person of color and an immigrant. It’s really her white female liberal friends that are having the most issues with me, or at least their perception of me, which is extremely frustrating

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Not everyone has the privilege of being born to non maga parents. I had to do a bunch of education before I was able to learn how terrible he really was

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 1w

Right. But I don’t want the suffering, hence why I don’t support him anymore. And yet I’m still defined by some outdated perspective that they think I do. It seems impossible for non trumpers to accept people can change

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

It really didn’t matter what mommy and daddy told you to do, you should have thought for yourself

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Well mommy and daddy, much like yours, are bankrolling my college degree and are actively checking my political views and sending me to non liberal college. So me being able to wake up and decide for myself Trump is awful IS me waking up.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Hey, some people are unable to think on their own. If you look around, they’re all just sheep. They HAVE to hold mommy and daddy’s hands

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

If you’re going to college just because of “political” views, just drop out. You’re just going to get a useless degree anyway. Why waste money?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

A lot of people have already answered this for you: saying you don’t agree with something is different than agreeing with her friends and saying you’ve changed requires time for those friends to see that through action. Three months is not a long time to begin to trust a past MAGA because of how extreme and hurtful MAGA is. Her friends might have not invited her because they thought she would bring you. She loves you and is therefore more inclined to forgive and forget. Her friends aren’t.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Also you stated you left MAGA for your girlfriend. Not because you thought the MAGA views were terrible and unjustifiable. That already would have me questioning how true that statement is.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

6, lay off, man. Everyone’s gotta wake up at some point.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Good faith explanation here cause I know you’re getting flamed. Your gf is more inclined to forgive your previous views bc she has affection for you. She’s more likely to trust you for this reason too. Her friends do not. Nevertheless, earning one person’s forgiveness or trust does not equate to actually having changed. Public apologies and declarations of change won’t be enough. It will be a long time before you see the change in attitude that you’re looking for.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

They’re going to a college bc of their parents political views. They’re not getting a degree in politics.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

I’m a centrist and fiscally moderate. I support free trade and the ability for America to freely manufacture their own goods and services. I also believe people should be able to vote for whoever they want, provided they are a naturalized citizen

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 1w

Exactly, thank you! Leaving maga was just a nice bonus especially since it allowed me to meet my current gf

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 1w

I can agree with that- I just think it’s horribly unfair for her to be chastised for something I did in the past and am spending a lot of time trying to not be defined by anymore. I can’t stop her friends from not liking me, although I think it’s very superficial, but to attack her for her choice is uncalled for

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I also can’t help but think a lot of her friends attacking her on this skews very “performative morality”

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Can you be more specific as to what you did in the past? Like what do you think gets to them the most?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Hey so my parents pay for my college yet I still don’t have the same politics as them.. they are liberal I’m leftist

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Ngl saying you’re a centralist does not tell much about your views. Just that you agree with some aspects from both sides, but those aspects are important. Also, we would have more naturalized citizens if the process was easier. I’m sure most Americans couldn’t pass the test required for citizenship. Not to mention the cost and time it takes. Many seeking citizenship may not have those types of funds for a lawyer, classes, fingerprinting, and travel (also taking time off of work).

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 1w

While I never partook in the actual riots for January 6, my parents, sister and I were present at Trump’s public speech demanding fair elections before that.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

Cool? I also don’t share the same politics as my parents anymore

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