Tbh that thread above is way too long to read. I saw a comment opposing them saying women shouldn’t have to earn vanilla. I’d say both of these are wrong in the sense this should be discussed prior. Now, that isn’t exactly practical most ppl aren’t asking what sort of sex do you usually do in hookups. So during sex you should communicate that u want to change it and your preferences once u realize it’s making you uncomfortable. Your feelings is a personal feeling of autonomy, and-
Nah you trippin asf, its a HOOKUP, meaning we are meeting for the sole intention of sex so most of anything should be on the table. Being offended he has to earn the vanilla parts makes sex emotional and you’re gonna get attached quick, chill out and just enjoy the sex unless he’s actually abusive. Firstly women need to show they give good head because mfs scared of big dih.
You thought you did your big one…..yikes! First off a girl shouldn’t have to prove shit, especially “if she can give head” because let’s be real a guys gonna come regardless if he gets head or not. He’s gonna leave satisfied while 9/10 the woman isn’t. A hookup goes both ways babe and asking how somebody likes sex is basic respect. Not everybody likes that shit hard and doesn’t feel good to eveybody! Hope that helps.
Which is exactly why I said it should be communicated and dont downplay a mans desire for head yall really be hating that shit. A woman does have to prove shit because you sit there like a dead rat and let us do all the work so yeah imma need some confirmation before I let you squirt on my shi. 0 effort and I dont even get head? yeah find somebody else
Not every woman can come from just a dick fyi. My point was whether y’all get head or not you’re still gonna be left satisfied. Y’all over here constantly begging for head and shit but then have a problem returning the favor. And yeah a handful of women don’t like giving head, y’all’s dicks are not pretty, I’m sorry that you’ve convinced yourselves it’s the greatest thing in the world.
Nah I just remember better days when girls i fw liked throating my shit and enjoyed sex so yeah imma need a girl to actually fw it and not just put up with dick because of sex. And if you cant come from dih just do it yourself bro you over here saying penetration not the point so then why you fucking a man. I got no problem returning the favor thats why my eaters always run tbe block. You think just because we can orgasm means we satisfied and no, it be hella shi missing with the mood, head,-
you’re disgusting. and know concerningly little about consent and female anatomy for someone who claims to be having hookups. just because you’re meeting up to have sex doesn’t mean everything is on the table and you can do whatever you want. mfs are out here slapping and choking women in bed without even knowing if she’s into that. that’s fucked. you can have vanilla sex without getting attached, not being abused in bed doesn’t make it too emotional.
you not knowing that a majority of women don't finish from dick makes me feel bad for women you've slept with. just be they can't finish that way doesn't mean there's no point to having sex. you're over here yapping about getting top and women not being enough for you in bed on a post about a woman who was uncomfortable with a man getting too rough with her. do you see how incredibly insensitive and tone deaf that is?? this is a community for women to answer gtfoh
Who said anything about abusive sex 💀, slapping faces and hard choking is insane, keep ts soft fr if you letting dudes crack who pull up like that you should already be asking questions, matter of fact as a WOMAN, why arent you already asking those questions, that doesn’t make any sense, if I was a girl and concerned about who I let crack my standards would be high, not just some joe shmoe. No female anatomy is easy to understand and consent is easily noticable, you can gauge that based on-
Yes you do HAVE to ask the question, imagine this, you want a cake but dont know the flavor or fruits you want but the baker already knows what he has in mind so you ask him for choclate cake and blueberries and he ultimately delivers. If you left him to his own techniques he woukd have likely created something you wouldn’t like because he has his own preference. So yes, you are the customer and the guy the vendor, ask for what you want because they will go with their own default. Sure I can-
Yes it should, you just said that women have a problem with being rough and people pushing kinky boundaries and men generally don’t. If the general idea is that men push those uncomfortable boundaries then maybe its a good idea to ask about that beforehand so no one gets confused. Why would I ask you about feeling satisfied if I know for sure I can get what I want. You still don’t realize that in hookups you’re the customer and the man is the seller.
Ok #3 you don’t seem to get the idea at all, I didn’t specify what he did because I don’t need to, my definition of “rough” and others definition of “rough” is different, which is why people need to communicate, I didn’t blame the dude but I wasn’t the one who changed the genre of the baseline vanilla sex, I never said I wasn’t interested but when you don’t communicate about it or ask during and proceed to do whatever you want based on “vibes” that’s not always consent, and yes it’s subjective -
Also didn’t mean to directly respond to hellraiser (appreciate the help really do!!) - sex is not a black or white thing, #3 is speaking from their experience which is probably very different from mine, but when you want to change things and you don’t really know the person, ofc you should ask because YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THEY LIKE, you just met them or you guys are on beginning terms. #3 is making very general statements of “girls don’t want to give head” and such -
True that is a good point, but you have to understand you are the woman not the man, A man already knows what he wants and what hes going to do as the DOMINANT one, You are the submissive one and a woman so automatically most men will assume they can already do whatever they want, You need to ask about boundaries beforehand because garunteed as a guy most of men wont care in the moment. Again, you are the customer, not the server, take accountability and uss that big brain of yours to control-
Which again is subjective, not every “girl” is the same on what they like to do or want to do, not that it’s any of your business but I actually genuinely love to give head, I love giving to whoever I’m sleeping with but if they give that respect back, it’s upsetting, especially when it’s unexpected. I never said I would not be interested in rough sex but communication is important, and you’re right it’s not the guys job to do so, it’s everyone who is participating but when you WANT to switch -
Things up, you should just ask or check in, because you could make someone upset or hurt them in way you probably didn’t intend to, there’s no need to get so defensive, women aren’t objects and just cause they want to hook up doesn’t mean they owe you anything, we are human beings who deserve to be treated like an equal, especially if you want to receive something like head because again you are not “owed” that
Nobodys owed anything, thats why we can get our orgasm out and leave in 2 minutes, If we arent switching up our ways we have sex and were rough with every girl we fuck and then women don’t communicate that to us because they say “we should already communicate or know that”, then we will never ever know what is wrong and continue doing what we already do. Lots more women unsatisfied in hookups than men, its by general consensus that YOU should ask because you are more likely to be unsatisfied-
Ok you seem to have some very weird general broad ideas about “women” and “all women”, it’s just a fact that different people will probably want different things, you are making a big general statement that is not true, not all women want to be submissive and not all men want to be dominant same with non binary people and everyone in between, you just seem to have a fundamental concept incorrectly assumed
and also concerned about the activities that are coming into play, I’m not asking you whether I’m a good basketball player if my accuracy rate is 90%, id be asking questions if my sucess rate was 30%-60%. A man can usually and always leave satisfied, a woman seems to not be able to do the same, so yes you need to ask.
Or maybe you should be interested in how the person you’re sleeping with feels?? Because they are also participating? Same vice versa, they should also ask too, there is no one side where one gender/person HAS/SHOULD be the only one initiating or communicating, but your attitude about women seems like you don’t even like women as human beings, I’m just very confused about your anger, I’m sorry if you had bad experiences that are the root to your current position but it doesn’t justify
NO THATS EXACTLY WHAT IM NOT SAYING, MEN AS A WHOLE DO NOT CARE ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL WHEN IT COMES TO HOOKUPS BECAUSE IT IS JUST SEXUAL AND NOT EMOTIONAL. God damn what dont you understand about that this is why hookups with women suck because they get all wishy washy and emotional when you dont fill every category they want. I am literally telling you most men DO NOT CARE about how you feel so YOU NEED to ask. I can come out satisfied every time If I really need to , you statistically will not.
Ah I see what you’re saying, but what I’m saying is that consent and asking about stuff shouldn’t be “emotional” it should be a baseline of respect, it shouldn’t be normalized that guys don’t care what their partner wants or consents to, and it shouldn’t be phrased as “emotional connection” it’s just basic human decency. Consent being labeled as “emotional attachment” is just an excuse for men to not treat women with respect, it’s also a cowardly excuse, women just want respect
Ive had good experiences with sex and ive had plenty of women tell me the disrespect men put them through with these hookups and bs so i am telling you as someone who has heard this argument that you need to ask what you expect beforehand because men be trippin on some crazy stuff, not saying this from a negative point but i say it from a personal perspective as a man and also watching from the sidelines
Consent in sex relating to kinks and whatnot doesn’t translate as consent to men because its just sex. If you want us to care about how you feel that implies we have some desire or feeling to make you feel good meaning it is likely emotional or an ego thing for us. Guys aren’t emotional with women they fuck, it’s just sex so we really dont care at all but for our pleasure and thats it, I have nothing to help/prove to you as a man during a hookup because simply being allowed sex is enough-
so even though you want what you want I legitimately will not give a single fuck and will walk out that door and crack a cold one open. Hookups for most men aren’t about respect, you’re just another woman on a bed, not a sexual experience to daydream about. Now if you were a woman we care about or a girlfriend that changes it up because we have a motive and feelings behind our actions and activity at hand. The goal is there because we actually want to fufill that desire because we care. Now-
yeah you sound like the worst kind of person to hook up with. selfish and uncaring. you can have a level of respect land care for someone’s feelings and pleasure without wanting a romantic relationship. i have had many hookups and fwbs that cared and put effort into my comfortability and pleasure because that’s basic human decency. if you don’t even care about your partners experience in bed you should not even be having sex
tell me why I should give a single fuck about a random girl who I have no allegiance to who is just here for the night or two. None, I shouldn’t at all, its also the fact that you are temporary, You likely wont be here next week so why should I be concerned about if you orgasm or not. Physical disrespect is crazy though.
No thats just working towards your own motives, fwb makes sense, but most men are extremely guarded in their feelings/emotions so to think you will get us to care about you sounds stupid af. I don’t have hookups anymore because they aren’t desireable and feel disgusting I just stick to sex in relationships because its a better connection and comfortable.
if you don’t give a fuck about her orgasm then why should she care about yours tho? or whether or not you get head ? i’m no stranger to meaningless hookups and one night stands but i have a respect for the game that includes actually trying to pleasure my partner and having the effort returned
She shouldn’t, thats my whole point, I could care less whether she lets me have sex because the action of doing it is enough for me lmaoo. Most girls give bad head for me and complain its too thick so I dont even ask anymore. Notice how you said partner and not hookup. I dont care about a random girl in my bed thats the whole point,
Ewww that’s like so disgusting and ignorant, you are also generalizing about men and their actions, I know for a fact that not all men have this twisted deranged idea about sex, you should just make “I” statements when you’re saying this shit cause even the men in these comments don’t agree with you
I’m not the one who came venting to Yikyak because my hookup went sideways, needing validation from a woman is some loser shit, I’m just telling you as it is from a pov as a guy and based on what other women have told me about their experiences but if you want to be ignorant thats on u fam.
Wow and yet here you are, where women ARE telling you how they feel and you’re not listening, you’re just misogynistic and have fucked up ideas about what should/should not be regarding women, I just feel sorry for whoever ends up with your selfish perspective of how to treat others
i mean sexual partner, not just romantic partner. i’m glad you stopped doing hookups bc the way you view them is fucked, and not representative of the majority of men. i have had dozens of hookups with men who actually put in effort into my pleasure and respected me because that’s basic human decency for someone you’re having sex with, doesn’t matter if you’re not romantically involved
About the slapping and choking thing, everyone has different limits. I do martial arts, and among my martial arts friends, choking is a friendly gesture and invitation for an impromptu grappling match. Currently abstinent, but when I do have sex, I will already be quite comfortable with choking, armbars, and the like. My partner also does martial arts, so we know each other’s limits. We also know martial arts etiquette and partner safety: agree on rules before you initiate, respect partner, etc.
Also in martial arts, people who can’t do certain things because of injuries communicate it. That’s very important because the sparring/grappling partner needs to know how to avoid injuring their partner. Also, if anyone taps out, you STOP what you are doing THAT INSTANT. Failure to respect partner boundaries and safety can get you kicked out or worse. Also, NOBODY EVER ASSUMES IT IS OK TO PUNCH SOMEONE WHILE GRAPPLING. If your kinks are unexpected, it’s on YOU to ASK for permission.
To clarify what I mean by “or worse”: I’ve never seen this happen, but our coach likes to point out that escalating invites retaliation. When you violate a partner’s boundaries, that COULD be an invitation for them to violate yours. Or an invitation for a strong, heavy person to do to you what you did to them. There are lots of strong, heavy people around who are more than willing to stand up for someone in… unconventional ways. Good people, but not people to mess with. Be warned.
I heard someone got kicked out for attitude, so kicking out 100% does happen. I wish there was a way to kick people out of the hookup market for their attitude. Well, I guess the Tea App is one way to filter ppl. Also, if you start a group with a vetting process, you can filter potential hookups that way.