
I apologize this showed up in my recommended posts and it’s my first time interacting with this community, but I experienced the same thing as a man, also losing 50 pounds. I will say it wasn’t subhuman tho, just like never interested & a small sub-category of both women and men treated me subhuman
Especially when you recall that these are like the same people who are always so adamant that you believe woman about their experiences and how their experiences and perceptions of them are valid and how a man could never possibly know a woman’s experience and shouldn’t even speak on it. I would be interested to see how this stuff develops in a century although I’m sure this will all be forgotten and nobody will remember what the culture was like during this moment in time
My experience is in dating a ton of people who wouldn’t be considered the top anything, but I dated them because they’re good people and reasonably attractive. That’s arguably more experience than men trying to get a date while being a terrible person, then blaming it on not being in the top whatever percent.
This is a woman only space. It’s in the rules you agreed to when you joined the space. And “believe all women” isn’t a substitute for proper investigation and rule of law, it’s just a good rule of thumb, because even now, women still get blamed even when they’re clearly the victim. I recommend watching a video the UK put out, where it shows how victims of rape are treated more like the perpetrator than as a victim.
Provide those statistics. It should be easy if “every statistical analysis ever done” proves your point. And I’m not talking about dating apps because the number of men who use those far outnumbers the women, so the situation is incredibly different, and the people that are on those apps are not an accurate representation of the majority. I’m talking about statistics on the general population.
Lineage studies show that historically women pass their genes at twice the rate that men do. That’s a simple fact. Also, my comment that’s being downvoted had nothing to do with passing genes, just stating the also empirically demonstrated fact that women have more dating options than men.
Not all men can donate sperm and don’t women need to want a kid to use the sperm? You can look it up, most women are able to reproduce if they want, most men can’t…it’s just how it is…the dating market is far more harsh for men on average, but there is a big chunk of women who have it hard too of course, but it’s not as large.
Because dating apps aren’t actually representative of the real world, and the data from those apps is what’s been misinterpreted and twisted by people with bad intentions to make big claims about humanity as a whole (like the percentage one) that simply aren’t accurate. In real life, plenty of women are passed over, and plenty of men are in relationships. It’s closer to equal, but a large majority of people just don’t use dating apps
Heterosexual men and women by and large do not know the person is trans until they tell them (per my trans friends, who have to worry about when to tell folks w dating — before they meet? At end of date 1? Etc). Trans men/women can (not all, but many) have the same dating experience as it applies to initial attraction/first dates
I read the post wrong at first as if OP was saying that she had no sympathy for women who complained about men only going after the top percentage because she lost weight and men pursued her. Like my brain just fully switched “men” and “women” and the whole post read like she was saying “women just need to lose weight to be pursued” so I’m assuming #9 may have done something similar tbh. I didn’t realize my mistake until I saw #4’s comments and realized I needed to reread the original post
No? The entire gender vs sex argument is almost entirely semantics. You guys are arguing about the definition of a word.... Sex has both mutable and immutable traits, and can generally be assigned into a binary system that works out for the majority of people. Whilst Sex is on a spectrum, MOST people can be assigned to one that corresponds to their "reproductive role" for lack of a better term. I think both me and #14 respect gender, and that trans women ARE women
If you ever listen to what the guys in frats say it's genuinely awful. I remember listening to guys joking about cracking a girl who weighed more in one of the sororities. They acted as if she was undesirable and repulsive, so women genuinely get treated as subhuman when they're deemed unattractive or overweight.