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“you guys are just reading porn” is such a nuisance thing to say. Erotic literature has been around, to our knowledge, since 2000 BCE and the entire reason that we’re having this conversation is because women started reading it.

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Anonymous 1d

I’m also tired of the dictionary definition btches saying erotica and visual porn are the same thing. Like words can’t have varied definitions and colloquial nuances. Like we aren’t in a book server and can’t use critical thinking skills to understand that there is a major difference between filmed pornography that exploits real individuals and fictional words on a page. Instead we will ignore science so someone can feed their superiority complex 🙄

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Anonymous 1d

It’s the same conversation of “it’s a magazine, so it’s not really reading”. Society will always try to negate women reading and learning because it’s how we operate.

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Anonymous 1d

and because women stopped being embarrassed to read it too!

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Anonymous 20h

I think smut (and erotic writing) is a million times better than porn not only for the viewer but for everyone involved. It is far more emotional and intimate in writing (typically), the ability to describe thoughts and feelings aswell. And i’m a guy 🤷

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Anonymous 16h

i'm not fiddling my clit when reading smut. i'm giggling and kicking my feet. i'm not horny bruh

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Anonymous 11h

I mean I think two things can be true at the same time. Reading romance and erotic books is totally fine, and to your point there’s tons of layers of misogyny in there too. There are also people who have addictions to it because they treat some of them like porn. Girls in particular are finding access to what’s essentially torture porn and have the worlds misshapen by it. In most cases it’s a non issue but it’s important to talk about the risks and dangers that come with it

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Anonymous 18h

yeah it's porn so waht i'm reading it anyway

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Anonymous 15h

i think you’re right about women being put down for reading due to misogyny-and written porn is more ethical than recorded (how ethical it is still is up to whoever)- but i think we ought to be honest there is a huge difference between literature and smut. dostoevsky is not yaoi fan fiction. and i know someone who spends hours of their day studying both but one speaks to the human condition and the other one is leisurely consumption of erotic material. this isn’t a condemnation but like. be real

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Anonymous 16h

Hell yeah I’m reading porn. Bc I’m not into that wokified neo puritism bs. Ethically created and consumed porn is cool and based

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Anonymous 10h

Reading a textbook on bluebirds and watching a documentary on them are different experiences because books and movies are different mediums. However both the people reading the textbook and those watching the documentary are consuming information about bluebirds. Watching a video of people having sex and reading about it are also different experiences, but the subject being consumed does not change. Visual and written pornography are both pornography.

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Anonymous 15h

I mean it’s still reading porn. Make or female.

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Anonymous 15h

Google states this: Pornography and "smut" (erotic romance novels) both trigger the brain's reward centers and release arousal-related neurotransmitters like dopamine and oxytocin. However, porn provides instant, passive visual stimulation, often leading to rapid tolerance and over-stimulation. Smut novels require active, imaginative engagement, pacing the neurological response through emotional connection and narrative.

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Anonymous 21h

lol I did not expect this to take a feminist turn. Impressive how you made yourself a victim

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Anonymous

#3 21h

Why are you in a book group if you’re not gonna read? There’s a lot of great historical books that you could use.

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Anonymous

#3 21h

As if misogyny doesn’t exist in every corner of society lmao 🤡 Get your head out of the sand

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Anonymous

#3 21h

It's not feminist, it's just ridiculous. Feminism is about equality, and there are so many women out there saying that porn is bad while they read their smut... their argument is usually about how it provides unrealistic expectations about women during sex, then they read about the man who knows their body better than themselves, the domineering businessman that gives a life of luxury in exchange for submission, and the fish man who is apparently a great lover...

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Anonymous

#4 21h

I think there are problems with some visual porn, but I've seen much worse problems in ao3... like the visual porn industry has legal restrictions, but anyone can write anything on ao3, but yeah let's get rid of visual porn because people actually have sex to make it.

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Anonymous

#4 19h

Visual porn has very little legal restrictions and has classically gotten in tons of trouble for involving REAL, not fictional, minors. wtf are you on about

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Anonymous

#4 19h

And yeah, internalized misogyny exists too. Everyone knows this. It’s important to combat that too. Who cares if someone wants to read about a girl fucking a demon? Literally no one should. Some of you are just weird as fuck about what other people read.

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Anonymous

#2 17h

Yeah... they get in trouble for it, because it's illegal. They HAVE restrictions. There are videos that you CAN NOT MAKE even if all people involved are consenting, of-age actors... Written content doesn't have restrictions. You can literally write ANYTHING.

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Anonymous

#8 16h

It took 15 chapters for them to hold hands do you think I’m reading this for just sex!

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Anonymous

OP 16h

Me when they didn’t have penetrative sex until book 3

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Anonymous

#4 15h

And it’s written material. usually tagged with content warnings, that is not actively harming real people. There is a clear difference you are not getting. Also the idea that everyone who does something illegal gets in trouble is a child’s dream. Sex trafficking is very much real and alive within the porn world. Pretending it’s not and that filmed pornography is somehow better than AO3 is actually so out of touch. I’m done with this conversation. You don’t live in reality.

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Anonymous

#10 15h

It’s still rewarding the same thing that visual porn does it’s just slower when reading it. Thus it’s still porn

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Anonymous

#10 15h

Oh great you’re here with your google AI overview too. Couldn’t just keep it to one comment section. Once again, get better sources. You’re out here calling people gooners for reading smut though, so you don’t really deserve to engage in any kind of intellectual or respectful conversation.

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Anonymous

#2 15h

I must have really struck a nerve just block me if you don’t like what I have to say because I’m gonna keep on stating it. You have yet to produce the names and the studies you are referring to. Then when I give you a synopsis of actually sources that can be found on Google you don’t accept it. Imma keep my beliefs you can’t change that.

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Anonymous

#10 12h

You quite literally never asked for sources. You just want to talk over people and call them gooners. And if you can’t take the time to find something besides an AI overview, you don’t deserve to be putting people down for your objectively incorrect opinions. Judge somewhere else.

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Anonymous

#10 12h

And I will block you because you are both wrong and pretentious. I don’t have time to have this tired conversation 3x a week every time someone with no real world experience comes by to call readers gooners.

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Anonymous

#12 11h

A lot of those books have warnings. I don’t think they can be posted unless there are warnings or else they’re swiftly taken down.

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Anonymous

OP 11h

Let’s not pretend like the warnings do anything with age restrictions. They’re good for trigger warnings, but those aren’t stopping anyone

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Anonymous

#12 11h

Age restrictions are completely different thing, and they are 100% the parents fault. I get what you’re trying to say, but it doesn’t add up because we have to take everything into account. If there is an age restriction, and the child does that follow it that is not the writer or the site‘s fault, especially if that child lied and put that they were an age older than they actually are.

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Anonymous

OP 11h

My point is that the increased accessibility of these increasingly more graphic and intense erotic content is damaging for young girls. If you aren’t able to hold that truth while maintaining your point then you’re just being defensive

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Anonymous

#7 11h

from a non-porn reader, you’re based

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Anonymous

#12 11h

I’m not defensive, but every single type of this media is easily accessible. Young girls are reading these books because we don’t have proper sex education for them either. That’s how I learned. I agree that young girls should not be reading dark erotica, but this is a platform in which young girls are not on. So the whole point of this argument belongs in spaces where it should be educating parents not on a Books thread on an app that is 18+ and meant for college students.

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Anonymous

OP 11h

tbf a lot of stuff will *not* have an age restriction and is sometimes marketed towards minors when it’s porn or fetish content. though age ratings is a separate conversation with more tangible consequences than “hmmm does this have enough pages of sex to qualify as a porn book” (although tagging is still important)

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Anonymous

OP 11h

You opened a discussion about erotica/romance, and when faced with a critique of the topic you say the discussion is not meant for this app? Get real lmao

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Anonymous

#12 10h

yeah there’s a lot of topics that don’t affect me personally but it’s still important to know abt them

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Anonymous

#12 10h

Hey, so if you’re gonna respond to critique about what you say with insults you completely negate anything that you’re trying to say cause why would I have a conversation with you?

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