Anonymous #1 6d

It’s had plenty of controversy for people to know already, literally day one of the trailer release. People aren’t dumb.

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Anonymous OP 6d

Not everyone is chronically online to know these controversies exist. My mom doesn’t use social media or watch the news. There are plenty like her. Not in this YikYak, but still. Just informing people does a lot more good than potentially alienating someone who didn’t know by calling them braindead.

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Anonymous #1 6d

Girl bye, that’s called ignorance, and there’s no excuse for it

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Anonymous OP 6d

Willful ignorance is not the same as not knowing something and it’s very important that you know this.

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Anonymous #1 6d

It’s very important that you know that there’s plenty of information available at your fingertips at any time, and just because your mawmaw doesn’t like searching for stuff, doesn’t mean that it’s not totally in your capability to use those resources. I implore you to rather than get butt hurt over a singular gripe on a college app to take it out on your therapist

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Anonymous #1 6d

If you took a minuscule amount of time to read my post too, you’d see this is about people who actually KNOW ABOUT THE BOOK. Like go be pissed somewhere else 😭

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Anonymous OP 5d

The only one pissed here is you. Like learn to be kind because being callous and combative and calling people the problem with America is going to change no one’s mind about your cause. You’re just alienating potential allies. Like I completely agree with the new film being problematic and full of issues but your attitude is lowkey making me want to see it anyway. We can be right and not also ableist and shitty about it. Well, some of us can.

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Anonymous #1 5d

You’re clearly pressed, and it’s honestly ridiculous. I have every right to be mad at people who know how the book actually is and still support something that minimizes abuse and erases the struggles of POC people. So no, I’m not going to be nice to people who still support media that does that, and the fact that you’re so weird about this is alarming. You obviously come from a place of privilege. As someone who’s brown, and who’s been through abuse this movie is disgusting

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Anonymous #1 5d

Check your privilege and go be a social justice warrior over something that actually matters. Taking such a middle ground “we shouldn’t be mad at people who’re ignorant!” take is so weird. Go watch the movie or whatever, but your complacency and support of people who’re willfully supporting erasure will bite you in the ass someday

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Anonymous OP 5d

You’re making a lot of assumptions about a total stranger, including assumptions about my skin color. You’re absolutely out of line and will never bring a single person to your side. Have fun turning people away from good causes just because you have unresolved anger issues and a superiority complex.

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Anonymous OP 5d

And actually yeah, we shouldn’t be mad at ignorance. That is simply not knowing something. Education folks is better than berating them every single time.

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Anonymous #1 5d

Literally half the internet has been saying this, but okay. And it’s totally safe to assume you have privilege when you act like this over something so stupid. I’ve never met a person of color who’s ever been mad over someone being fed up with people ignoring erasure. Maybe instead of arguing with a random person on the internet you should do more research on the consequences of films such as this. You’ve literally spent 24 hours trying to argue and my opinion still stands lol

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Anonymous #2 5d

Adaptations don’t need to fully be faithful, but erasing basically whole plot about abuse and racism and turning into bdsm porn slop is crazy. ATP, the director should’ve never branded it as Wuthering Heights, it’s disrespectful to the novel and the author

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Anonymous OP 5d

fair enough but i cannot bring myself to care what emily brönte would think of this movie lmao. at the end of the day she’s a dead victorian lady and people are allowed to take whatever liberties they want adapting her novel. i was ultimately disappointed by the movie but not for accuracy reasons lol

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Anonymous #2 5d

I don’t know about that one chief. Maybe I feel strongly about it as a writer and English major, but I think taking a woman who was abused heavily in the original story and making her basically a bdsm submissive to the man who abused her horrifically in the original plot is lowkey nasty, no matter how the author feels about it. Like, imagine if someone made a retelling of Lolita but instead of the girl being a child being manipulated and abused by a pedo it was a romance? Ain’t that weird??

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Anonymous OP 5d

No yeah I’m an English major too and I despise whatever tf was going on with Isabella. But I didn’t despise, just for example, Catherine’s relationship with her father in this, or the Catherine/Heathcliff sex montage. I think the original novel was ripe with potential for a story that was more explicitly about sexual repression but couldn’t be because, y’know, 1847.

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Anonymous #2 5d

And I especially liked the dynamic of Catherine being more explicitly tormented with guilt and shame about her sexual activity because her worth is so deeply tied to her sexuality. I liked that her child was much more explicitly representational of that and I even sort of liked the change to having her miscarry as far as that symbolism went.

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Anonymous #2 5d

So I guess my point is I don’t think deviations from the source material are inherently bad—they just have to be taking the source material and expanding on and/or deviating from the theme in an interesting and significant way. Which the Isabella arc was definitely NOT doing, but other aspects of the film maybe were?

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Anonymous #2 5d

Ultimately I was disappointed in this movie because I think Fennel is an incredibly competent director and storyteller but the stories she chooses to tell will always be reflective of her incredibly narrow and shallow interests. (Sorry for so many comments!)

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Anonymous #2 5d

Yeah I can def see that being good symbolism! And like, don’t get me wrong, I love media that explores sexuality. It just rubs me the wrong way that it was done this way. Like, if I wrote a similar novel I wouldn’t mind if someone took inspiration from my work to create something similar but with undertones such as this movie, but calling it the same name and doing all that to my characters would make me unbelievably upset. She’s dead, but I gotta have some empathy 😭

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Anonymous #2 5d

Totally understandable! And no worries on how many messages lol, this is a good discussion and I appreciate how respectful you’ve been after the last person I talked to 😭

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Anonymous OP 5d

Yeah fair enough. I’m a big death of the author girlie but I like to think that if I write a novel as amazing and beloved as wuthering heights I’d mostly be pleased it’s still so widely adapted and dissected. I keep thinking about this movie in conversation with del toro’s frankenstein, which I think was also a very poor/inaccurate adaptation of the source material but in a VERY different direction. so at some point the question just comes down to which deviation is more interesting

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Anonymous #2 5d

True! Guillermos was definitely not accurate, but I did appreciate it more as a reinterpretation. It still kept a lot of the core plot as well, which I found refreshing when it comes to Frankenstein movies haha. There’s plenty of amazing book retellings out there that I love for sure

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Anonymous #2 5d

Wuthering Heights could’ve been done sooo much better. I can’t help but feel that the director may have been better off pulling what SaltBurn did (which was heavily inspired by The Secret History but still had its own unique plot and characters)

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Anonymous #2 5d

Death of the author is fair too, lord knows I’ve been put through that with my own writings, it’s just hard seeing such a horrific tale be turned into a romance for me 😞

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Anonymous OP 5d

yeah that’s fair! the frankenstein movie cutting justine was the equivalent of what wuthering heights did to isabella for me lol

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Anonymous OP 4d

I don’t need to do research and I don’t need to prove my racial status to call you out for using ableist language to further your cause instead of simply educating people on the problematic changes. I ALREADY KNOW THEM. I am not disagreeing with the fact that wuthering heights butchered the book and erased identities. I am telling you that you are going to drive people far far away from every cause you ever stand for by being vitriolic towards the crowds that don’t know the info.

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Anonymous OP 4d

But go ahead! Keep being full of rage and void of compassion. If you don’t believe people can learn and adapt, then why bother being in a book space? Why bother promoting reading at all? People can’t know what they don’t know, and folks who are unaware of source material or why the changes are a problem are not braindead or the problem with America. I actually think that the capitalist forces pushing these bad adaptations are worse, but sure, burn down the folks who just don’t know. Good luck 🤪

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