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Hot take. Fourth Wing has done irreparable damage to the romance genre. It’s almost impossible to find a well written fantasy with any romance in it now. Like stop describing how hot he is. “Enemies to lovers” this, “slow burn” that. We’ve lost the plot
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Anonymous 16w

Fast fashion but for books

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Anonymous 16w

BRING BACK LIMERENCE AND YEARNING

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Anonymous 16w

this is a hot take because there’s still plenty of fantasy out there, it just may not be on the “best of booktok” shelves or whatever

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Anonymous 16w

I like wings though

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Anonymous 16w

Gonna have to go back to my roots and use ao3. Now if the booktok girlies would learn to tag stuff in their fanfics that’d also be great. I’m tired of surprise vore or incest in my fanfics.

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Anonymous 16w

i keep drifting to YA bc of this.

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Anonymous 16w

i always get worried seeing posts like this because my aunt bought me the series and yet i only see a lot of bashing for it but i still want to give it a chance bc personal preferences and all that but 😬

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Anonymous 16w

It’s the same thing that happened to YA dystopia when divergent came out

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16w

Um excuse me, I specifically requested the FOURTH wing, not a plate of 10!

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 16w
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Anonymous replying to -> #4 16w

I mean fantasy with romance that has recently come out. New releases. A good example is Silver Elite.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

That’s more dystopian sci-fi than fantasy. Don’t read that so much so can’t talk about new releases in that genre. I’m still catching up on old fantasy too so I don’t follow new releases horribly often but I know Daniel Greene usually has weekly 20+ min videos on new fantasy updates, including new releases

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 16w

like I said before, it may be harder to find than romantasy, but older school fantasy still exists and is still being published. the authors from 10 years ago are still around, and especially if you’re willing to try indie, there are plenty of people who aren’t just following trends to make a quick buck

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

This except it has always existed. I have not read fourth wing, but I haven’t seen a change in the genre surrounding it. ACOTAR, which I also have not read, on the other hand spawned 1000s of duplicate fae romantasy books and I HAVE noticed an impact there. But I was reading when Breaking Dawn came out and have seen this “fast fashion” trend for over a decade. It’s not even CLOSE to fourth wing’s fault. Plus, there are plenty of good yearning books out there. You just have to dig & read indie.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 16w

this^#5 is spot on. one could make the argument that pulp fiction was the original “fast fashion” of books, but even then that doesn’t feel like a good argument because a good majority of the argument about fast fashion is the environmental impact of wearing clothes once and sending them to landfills (especially clothes that don’t last more than one wear) as well as the human impact of the slave labor required to manufacture those clothes

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 16w

it’s just not similar to the argument against books. maybe you could say that publishers are cutting corners on product quality (definitely could make the argument with red tower and the iron flame release), but even so, many people actually liked the misprints and kept them as “extra special editions”. books just don’t end up in landfills at the rate of textiles, and even books that do are far far far more biodegradable than polyesters used in cheap clothes

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 16w

plus, and do correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t believe that most (if any) book production is outsourced to sweat shops or anything of the sort, so the human impact is far less than fast fashion

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 16w

All that makes sense. I don’t really fully think out my analogy before I said it- I more meant it in the way that there seem to be more fantasy books that are cookie cutter and made without much consideration but I think now that comparing it to hallmark movies would’ve been closer

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

yeah totally! that’s a really good analogy actually. building stories around tropes and vibes with very little diversity (or token diversity) and horrible writing, but can be fun for mindless entertainment

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 16w

Same

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

how are you gonna say this but then say we've lost the plot over "slow burn" 😭😭 bae they go hand in hand

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 16w

I’m saying it’s not actually slow burn. That’s why I put it in quotations. Slow burn isn’t slow burn anymore. I want it to last the whole book, no, the whole series.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

silver elite is booktok famous and is just fake enemies to lovers though

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 16w

maybe I’m on the wrong side of booktok then bc nobody I follow likes it. and I’m not gonna try to defend silver elite BUT the enemies to lovers in this book is far more enemies than pretty much any romance I’ve seen marketed that way (like he’s fs her second biggest opp at the beginning of the book even if it’s poorly written)

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