Anonymous #1 23h

Don’t like don’t read applies to fanfic, I would say published media is definitely different. Marketing brings a lot more ethical debate into it

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Anonymous #3 23h

No it doesn’t. You still don’t have to read it. And that is a take that directly aligns with censorship.

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Anonymous #4 19h

It’s fiction. Grooming is done by human beings.

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Anonymous #1 19h

until someone reads it and thinks it sounds fun or “romantic” and then can’t recognize real life signs of grooming or endangerment

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Anonymous #3 19h

nobody is shoving their CHOICE of book in your face and forcing you to read tf.

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Anonymous #4 19h

it was consensual

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Anonymous #4 19h

it is an ADULT book. ADULTS know the difference between FICTION and reality. pls stfu

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Anonymous #2 19h

ok girl enjoy your statutory 🍇 books!

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Anonymous #4 19h

it quite literally isn’t. age of consent is 16. and again, it is fiction (meaning not real in case you don’t know.) and consensual. idiot

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Anonymous #4 19h

get ur clih out a twist. if you don't like it then don't read it

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Anonymous #4 19h

When you start blaming fiction for people’s real actions, then you absolve them of responsibility for their actions. Men who aren’t groomers aren’t going to suddenly want to be because of a book

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Anonymous #1 19h

i was thinking more about how the increase and normalization of “dark romance” affects young women. i don’t want girls to be groomed because they were told it’s fun or sexy. an adult can make that distinction but it’s more blurred for a minor

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Anonymous #4 18h

a minor should not be reading an adult book 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous #1 18h

please. that's like saying reading Freeda Mcfadden means that i want to off someone. or reading the hunger games means i want to do all that. that is NOT how it works sista.

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Anonymous #2 18h

no shit but when a book is advertised as popular on tiktok and the main character is literally a minor you don’t think that’s going to attract younger readers??

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Anonymous #4 18h

but how is that the authors fault? it's not, and it's not our fault that adults are reading ADULT BOOKS. that's like saying children's books are gonna dumb me down so we better hide them from the adults.

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Anonymous OP 18h

THANK YOUUUUUUUU my god.

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Anonymous #4 18h

if young adults are reading these books, the only person to blame is their parents for granting access to the sites, books, or social media.

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Anonymous #5 18h

why care what someone else is doing with THEIR time, money, and life???? weirdo.

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Anonymous #2 18h

Criticism is not weird, you can like what you like and me nor no one else on the internet can stop you. You however cannot expect people NOT to criticize a book that sexualizes minor-adult relationship. Ask yourself WHY do you enjoy this. Do what you want, but don't expect everyone to like it.

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Anonymous #5 17h

againnnn my point still stands. also WHY do you care what others enjoy????? ugh it’s very weird.

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Anonymous #5 17h

as i said in above comments, why doesn't the hunger games, any murder mystery, or even fantasy books have the same reaction? offing someone is worse than this but no one talks about that. the MC in Credence doesn't even end up with the uncle, she ends up with his son

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Anonymous OP 17h

it is manly because that is the main focus of the story, it is meant to be a novel that is romantic, you are meant to find this book attractive and fantasize about it. The hunger games is about the abuse of power and the elite and how it leads to terrible things, nothing about it is meant to be good. The context of books like this really matters, nothing wrong with dark themes they just need to be handled properly.

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Anonymous #5 4h

that doesn’t cover my full statement. maybe the hunger games was a bad example, but that doesn’t cover the murder mystery books or anything gruesome that other people read. or in euphoria, teens were going around sleeping with older men like no one’s biz. no one got mad at that, because it was a part of the plot.

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Anonymous #5 4h

my point is that people seem to pick and choose what they want to be offended by. violence, murder, gore, abuse, and other disturbing topics are constantly included in books, movies, and tv shows, and people are perfectly fine with it because it’s fiction or because it’s important to the storyline. but the second a book includes something sexual or morally questionable, suddenly everyone wants to act like the author is promoting it.

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Anonymous #5 4h

reading about something does not automatically mean you support it or want it to happen in real life. there’s a difference between consuming fictional content and endorsing the actions of the characters. people can read a murder mystery without wanting someone to get murdered, so why is it suddenly different when the subject is something else?

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Anonymous #5 4h

you can dislike a book or find certain content disturbing without acting like everyone who reads it is a bad person. fiction explores uncomfortable topics all the time, and that’s literally part of what makes it fiction. not every story is supposed to be a guide for how people should behave.

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Anonymous OP 4h

if we’re going to criticize books for including disturbing content, then that same energy needs to be applied consistently instead of only being directed toward the content people personally find inappropriate. otherwise, it’s not really about the plot or the message. it’s about what people are willing to tolerate and what they aren’t.

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Anonymous #5 4h

sorry that all wouldn't fit under one comment and i had a lot to say 😭

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Anonymous OP 4h

no youre good, I get it lol. But I understand what you are saying and I agree, I never liked euphoria it also sexualizes teenagers very heavily, i feel the same way about twilight. Again I agree that you can read and watch things that contain disturbing content and fiction should not be a guide on reality, however when we consume and produce content about things like grooming we need to be extremely careful with how it is handled, euphoria, twilight, nor credence handled it well. It was waved-

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Anonymous #5 4h

-off as just another part of the series something that just adds drama, when grooming changes lives, it affects victims forever. Credence could have easily had this aspect and handled it better. Instead of making the conflict be about "who gets the girl". Even the son the MC gets with at the end doesn't really care much that she was groomed by his father. It was only there to add to the "spicy".

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Anonymous #5 4h

i get what you’re saying, but the matter of fact is that it’s fiction. it’s not real life, and while i can agree that the situation was wrong, it was consensual. she didn’t do anything sexual with any of them until she was 18, which is an important distinction when we’re talking about grooming. i’m not saying her sleeping with the dad wasn’t weird because it absolutely was, but i don’t think that automatically means the entire book is romanticizing grooming.

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Anonymous #5 4h

and the son did care lol. he literally called her a slut for it and was mad at the fact that she slept with his dad. i do wish we got more of his POV, but from what we did get, he wasn’t very happy with the situation.

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Anonymous #5 4h

i’m not saying grooming is okay, and i’m not saying everyone has to like credence. i’m saying that reading fiction doesn’t mean you agree with every single thing that happens in it. we can criticize the way a story handles something without shaming the people who read it. that’s the point i’m trying to make. if what she did didn't happen, the whole plot would've sucked.

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Anonymous #5 4h

the dad also acknowledged it wasn't good. he knew it shouldn't be happening, she also knew. that doesn't mean it's ok, but it was acknowledged and i think that adds onto their characters. jake was weird, but if it wouldn't have happened then the story would have a bunch of plot holes. like that's literally what the book circles, a love triangle.

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Anonymous #5 4h

but i get your side and why you think what you think.

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