Anonymous #4 12w

me when ableism 😍

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Anonymous #7 12w

?

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Anonymous #4 12w

they count

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Anonymous #8 12w

reading and listening are 2 different things though. it’d be fun to have the ability to track audiobooks and physical books read, which i suppose you could do in a notebook or something, but to me personally, they’re 2 different achievements, and if that’s not the same to other people, then that’s okay. i wasn’t hating on or judging anyone, i was just simply saying my opinion.

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Anonymous #7 12w

Can we pls use a shred of common sense before we just start throwing words around. Someone saying “I don’t count audiobooks towards my reading goal” is not ableism!

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Anonymous #6 12w

sure but that’s not what they said. they said “but they don’t count.” i am obviously aware there is a fundamental difference between listening to an audiobook and reading, but i am literally speaking from the perspective of someone who spent A YEAR unable to traditionally read due to a brain injury. so yes, i AM calling it out bc i had sm ppl telling me that the audiobooks i was listening to “didn’t really count” towards my reading goal. i get it, it’s different, but it was my genuinely only way

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Anonymous #6 12w

to consume books. the discourse of “if audiobooks count” is generally rooted in ableism because ppl view audiobooks as a less than form than traditionally reading, so much so that they diminish their value and the ‘validity’ of ppl that consume books that way. i don’t care if someone counts it towards their own personal reading goal (which, again, not what this person said), but that doesn’t make ppl who do less than them

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Anonymous #6 12w

sorry u won the pmo contest (source: me having to dnf a book td bc the text was so small my migraine was immediate)

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Anonymous #4 12w

storygraph sorts books by audio, ebook, and physical

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Anonymous #7 12w

sorry to hear about your struggles, but it’s not my fault you interpreted it that way and took it personally. never once did i direct it towards people with different conditions that make it hard to read physical books. i was saying that FOR ME, i categorize them differently. my “books read” goal feels like it should be just that, and i could make another one for books listened to. hate me if you want but blaming me for something i clearly didn’t do is ridiculous

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Anonymous #8 12w

good for storygraph

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Anonymous #7 12w

Context is important lol the original post references “my reading goal” so when someone comments about their own experience, we can infer they are ALSO talking about THEIR OWN reading goal!

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Anonymous #6 12w

you get me 🫶

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Anonymous #6 12w

it’s actually not clear they’re talking about their own reading goal from just their initial comment—as noted by the multiple downvotes that ppl r interpreting it that way. obvs i understand it’s something personal for them, and i’m literally doing the same thing w my reading goal this year, but it’s the general statement of “audiobooks don’t count” that’s highly unnecessary. bc all ur doing is pushing that very vague sentiment, which is seen and interpreted negatively by people who struggle to

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Anonymous #6 12w

read traditionally. perchance, we can see how easily “misinterpreted” our words can be or how they still negatively impact people, no matter ur intention, and write more carefully. simply saying “but i don’t count them towards my reading goal” has an entirely different tone that “they lowkey don’t count.” it’s not a “i’m sorry you feel that way” situation or “i’m sorry you misinterpreted and took it personally”, it’s quite literally the phrasing used is the same used by people who are actually

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Anonymous #6 12w

aiming to be ableist. this is not a personal attack to anyone, bc ik 4 didn’t mean it that way, but y’all can’t be surprised the way ppl take it when the ableism is the clearest interpretation.

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Anonymous #7 12w

Tbh it is pretty clear when you take a moment to consider the comment within the context of the initial post. I understand that this is a sensitive topic for you but it seems like that caused you to project your own insecurities about audiobooks onto this comment when #4 was always just talking about their own personal reading goal

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Anonymous #6 12w

so sorry i’m projecting my insecurity that i’m disabled 😔😔 literally i just said it was poor word choice. upon reading the rest of their comments, i understand it wasn’t their intention, but the easiest and clearest interpretation when you read JUST their initial comment (like i did! when there were no replies) is with the weird tone of ableism. just dropping the bit of wisdom that we choose our words better next time so we don’t accidentally say something we don’t mean!

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Anonymous #7 12w

or you could just not assume anything. it’s just the way you came off was absolutely ridiculous. and literally nobody said you were projecting your insecurity about a disability. that is just being overdramatic and sarcastic which makes it childish. it’s already said and done, thanks for the awareness, now move on

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Anonymous #7 12w

it’s not my fault if people interpret something i or someone says and we certainly shouldn’t have to feel guilty or sorry about it. if you don’t like it just ignore it. it’s not worth the fuss unless it’s a literal issue you’re actively confronting.

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Anonymous #4 12w

it was an issue i was actively confronting, actually!! i was lit only looking for acknowledgment that it was poor wording, no matter your intention. my initial comment was a bit harsh but the rest of what i said was lit just a genuine response to everyone’s denial. i don’t mean to guilt anyone, literally just acknowledge the issue. and btw, #6 did actually say i was projecting my insecurities!! (god forbid a disabled person advocate for something!) honestly i don’t care to respond anymore tho

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Anonymous #4 12w

since nobody actually seems to care

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Anonymous #7 12w

because you’re playing victim bro. if you came at it a different way then things would be different.

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Anonymous #7 12w

a stranger on the internet, especially anonymous, will not care 8 times out of 10 so you may as well just give it up

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Anonymous #4 12w

I don’t use audiobooks but it is widely accepted that they count as reading.

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Anonymous #9 12w

i know. i’m saying for me personally it’s different than reading an actual book. that’s literally the entire point i’m making.

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Anonymous #4 12w

Cool

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Anonymous #7 11w

damn shut the fuck up

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