Anonymous #1 1w

Especially as someone who uses audiobooks 95% of the time, sometimes my entire system only has 𝘰𝘯𝘦 copy of a specific title, recently for example that was Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir, it wasn’t on Hoopla and I didn’t want to wait over a month and a half on the waiting list. So I got it from Audiobook Bay. Obviously libraries are great and supporting them is wonderful, but Hoopla as an app is very subpar because of how it’s set up.

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Anonymous #2 1w

its no different from borrowing a physical book from the library. its just more accessible since theyre online versions

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Anonymous #1 1w

How did you italicize that word? *one*

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Anonymous #1 1w

WAIT HOW DID YOU DO “AT ALL” TOO? ITS MAGIC

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Anonymous #3 1w

It’s a fonts keyboard app. Got it a few years ago when it was free but sadly I think new users have to pay for all of the fonts and only a few are free.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Oh dang that sucks. Welp thanks for letting me know anyways!!

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Anonymous #3 1w

Honestly there’s probably a newer feee one by now. There always seems to be with these sorts of apps which is nice.

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Anonymous #4 1w

making the copies unlimited doesnt help the corporate greed issue though. i completely agree that authors probably dont see as much money as they should, but thats a problem on the publishing conpany's end, not the library or services that work with libraries to make borrowing more accessible

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Anonymous #4 1w

This whole thing is a perfect example of manufactured scarcity. There isn’t much of a limit on how many digital copies of anything we can have, but in order to keep a price tag on it there has to be limited supply. The scarcity does not exist we could give everyone access to almost any book with the technology we have we choose not to. The reason why we choose not to is because the money each person or library pays for a copy is supposed to go to everyone who worked on this book.

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Anonymous #4 1w

if we make it unlimited then the author and everyone else who worked on the book gets even less money than if it was limited to buying licenses. the book is still available to everyone for free you just have to wait for it.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Only thing is a lot of that money actually goes to the seller (likely amazon) and not anyone who worked on it (I don’t know enough about publishing houses to comment on the share they get otherwise I would). There would be more copies available if there weren’t a manufactured scarcity to increase demand, each copy could be cheaper, we could overturn the system because of the new technology and figure out a different way to pay authors and editors and everyone who makes books.

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Anonymous #4 1w

The system we have now is not perfect nor good and it is completely valid to be upset over inconveniences like long wait times on hoopla or Libby that come as a result of this.

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Anonymous #4 1w

its not manufactured scarcity though? the library chooses how much to buy... and thats whats available on your libby or whatever else you use. the LIBRARY creates the "scarcity"

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Anonymous #4 1w

yeah the system isnt perfect but wait times are kind of the trade off you have to deal with when youre getting the resources for free. its free, meaning lots of people want to use the services, meaning you have to wait your turn

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Anonymous OP 1w

The library does not choose how much a digital copy costs nor their budget for buying new books. If the library could get more copies they likely would. Also libraries don’t buy copies they buy licenses from publishers for certain amounts of time and publishers can decide to limit how many times that book can be checked out. It’s not libraries creating scarcity but there is a manufactured scarcity.

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Anonymous OP 1w

There wouldn’t have to be long wait times if publishers weren’t limiting how many times a library can check out a digital copy in a certain amount of time

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Anonymous #4 1w

i think we're arguing with eachother about two different things... i agree that corprate greed is bad. thats an obvious fact. im really just saying we shouldnt be blaming libby or hoopla for what publishing companies are doing 😭 they have no say in what the publishing companies do, theyre just a service that makes borrowing stuff from a library database easier

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Anonymous OP 1w

what im saying is that its not libby or hoopla's fault they have long wait times and limited selections. they dont choose any of those things. they just let you borrow from your local library

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’m not sure about hoopla, but I think it’s overdrive (not publishers) that charges libraries an arm and a leg for each digital license. A library buys a physical copy for $30 or whatever and can use it until it falls apart whereas they have to spend $75 on a digital license with a two month check out run

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Anonymous #3 1w

you should also be able to find the letters on any unicode list

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