Anonymous #1 4w

isn’t rape SA? or is it just a specific “type”?

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Anonymous #1 4w

No dude, it’s rape.

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Anonymous OP 4w

okay, see this is what i thought

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Anonymous #4 4w

Isn’t it technically penetrating the woman’s mouth though?

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Anonymous #3 4w

i mean, in a legal sense, that’s not what it means yk

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Anonymous #3 4w

That’s what I’m saying. I lowkey hate the term “the penetrator is the rapist” because that implies that a woman can unconsentually ride an unconscious man and that wouldn’t count as rape because he’s the penetrator.

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Anonymous OP 4w

i mean, atleast in my state, the legality of what is and isn’t rape is outdated and messed up asf

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Anonymous OP 4w

No dude, it’s not. It’s sexual assault.

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Anonymous #2 4w

No lol. There’s different “levels” of sexual charges for a reason. Rape is forced Sex without consent. SA is touching in a forceful manner without consent, considering the guy is asleep, he cannot give consent. CNC however, is a totally Side piece to that that allows someone to do those thing with sleep consent.

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Anonymous #1 4w

No it’s not

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Anonymous OP 4w

It literally is 😭😭 Google is fucking free my guy. It’s sexual assault

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Anonymous #1 4w

The mouth is penetrating the sexual organ dipshit

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Anonymous OP 4w

And it’s still sexual assault

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Anonymous #1 4w

You literally said google the definition, I did, proved you wrong, and instead of admitting you’re wrong, you’re doubling down when the evidence is right in front of you.

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Anonymous OP 4w

You know what, if it ever happens to you or someone you know, in court it’ll go down as sexual assault

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Anonymous #1 4w

Yeah well in court getting an abortion will go down as a murder charge in some states so that’s an invalid argument.

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Anonymous OP 4w

You bringing up irrelevant shit bc you know ur wrong 😭girl jus shut yo bitch ass up and go to bed. Penetration without consent is SEXUAL ASSAULT. End of damn story. Don’t like it? Not my problem. Argue with your mommy pls!!

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Anonymous #1 4w

“Rape is forced sex without consent” And this is literally forced sex without consent. How fucking dense are you?

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Anonymous #9 4w

Are you stupid? It’s not SEX. It’s PENETRATION. Nobody got on top of the guy and fucked him without consent or any of that. You’re reaching. It’s sexual assault bc no fucking with dick and vagina happened. A mouth and a dick is what happened. It’s sexual fucking assault.

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Anonymous #1 4w

oral SEX is still fucking sex

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Anonymous #2 4w

ITS SEXUAL ASSAULT

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Anonymous OP 4w

Ur wrong. It’s forced oral sex.

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Anonymous #2 4w

Not legally, I’ve been to courts for this, it’s just sexual assault. Rape is: vaginal or anal penetration without consent( this also counts if a woman gets on a man because that does happen)

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Anonymous #13 4w

This isn’t true. My father is in jail for molestation and sexual assault of a minor NOT RAPE. He touched and put his mouth on my vagina and the police knew this and that is on the documents. Rape Is the forced penetration vaginal or anal using objects or body parts. For a man to be raped the woman has to forcibly penetrate herself either thru anal or vaginal penetration. Rape is very specific and everything else falls into other types of sexual assault.

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Anonymous #12 4w

It’s any type of forced penetration. A penis into a mouth is penetration. She put his penis in her mouth. Penetration=rape.

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Anonymous #13 4w

Actually that is partly true, it really depends if the place you are filing the report. Some laws don’t count that and some do, I just did research on it. But in Virginia it isn’t considered rape it’s forcible sodomy, look it up!

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Anonymous #12 4w

Just because it’s not considered that in VA doesn’t mean it’s not what it is…people consider biracial kids black in America but they’re mixed. Consideration does not equal what it is

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Anonymous #13 4w

But it does because the law defines what it is. It’s the law and thats what it is. And the biracial thing isn’t true, most places go based on the race of one of the parents and by state. For example as a biracial person born in VA my birth certificate says white because they went based on mother’s race but my brother who is also biracial and born in Utah has black on his birth certificate. And being biracial most of the time you are looked at as black by white people and white to black people.

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Anonymous #12 4w

The law isn’t everywhere..so when one state says something and another says something else..how do we figure out the facts? Just like abortion laws. Just because one state is against it and another state is for it, how do we determine what’s right or wrong? I’m going based off facts..not one state’s law

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Anonymous #12 4w

I’m black and see biracial people as biracial. My black family sees biracial people as black. So it’s different everywhere so you can’t really say what the facts are

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Anonymous #13 4w

You should go based on facts in your own state. It’s stupid to tell this guy it’s rape when if he went to report it, IT WOULDN’T BE COUNTED AS RAPE. It’s important to know what things are regardless of the other states. That’s like saying all abortions are illegal just because it is in a few states. Or saying it is completely legal when it isn’t in some states. It’s called being logical.

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Anonymous #13 4w

Hun do you know what a FACT is? It can be proven. The biracial thing is an OPINION meaning it can change. The fact is that in VIRGINIA the bj would be forcible sodomy not rape. And that’s is a FACT BECAUSE IT CAN BE PROVEN. Not an opinion.

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Anonymous #12 4w

So putting a penis in the anus is forcible sodomy in Virginia too?

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Anonymous #13 4w

Because anal sex is sodomy

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Anonymous #13 4w

No and you can look it up. Under Virginia Law code 18.2-61 defines rape as sexual intercourse( including vaginal or anal penetration, however slight) committed against the person’s will by force, threat, or intimidation, or with someone who is mentally or physically incapacitated, or with someone who is underage and cannot legally consent.

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Anonymous #13 4w

So close!

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Anonymous #12 4w

So if anal sex is sodomy, how is it rape? Oral sex is sodomy, but not considered rape..so if forcible sodomy is a different crime than anal sex should not be rape

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Anonymous #13 4w

That is the broad definition( from google so it’s not very specific to the states and laws) by definition technically sodomy is both. The laws in each state determine what counts as rape and what is sodomy, like I said I’m going off Virginia which counts anal as rape and labels oral as forcible sodomy.

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Anonymous #12 4w

Your first comment did not seem like you believed it was state based. You said forced sodomy was not rape but it is. Your state might say it isn’t but doesn’t mean that’s right or true.

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Anonymous #13 4w

You’re right, my first comment was based on personal experience(which is also a case that happened in Texas)but after your reply I did research as I responded which is why the rest of the thread is based on Virginia and our laws here.

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Anonymous #12 4w

Okay, I understand. I was still thinking you were tying it towards every state and not just VA!

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Anonymous #13 4w

Ohhh okay my bad! Should have specified 😭

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Anonymous #17 4w

*not done that meaning assault him

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Anonymous #1 4w

You are making the mistake of confusing what is legal versus what is moral. The legal definition of rape is not synonymous with the dictionary definition of rape. The dictionary defines rape as forced sexual activity. The law may only define rape as forced penetration. Why? Because of course the legal system would have a narrow scope of rape. Then it would allow more rapists to walk away free or get an even lighter sentence.

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idk i’ve always used legal definitions

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