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I hate how incel has such a negative connotation, like yeah women aren’t crazy about me, that doesn’t mean im racist, sexist, homophobic or anything else, there are plenty of reasons people are involuntarily celibate, not all of them are fundamental flaws
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Anonymous 1w

You say things like “women aren’t crazy about me” but have you tried to change yourself to appeal to what women want or do you resent them for not accepting you as you are instead? girls are taught that they have to change themselves to adhere to what men want… why is it so difficult for you to do the same?

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Anonymous 1w

you aren’t involuntarily celibate, you’re celibate on your own choosing due to the negative beliefs you have internalized about yourself. also maybe if some of you guys went for girls in your league you’d actually stand a chance but instead u go for the cliche hot girls who obviously wouldn’t want someone who doesn’t adhere to beauty standards when they themselves do. But that’s not a conversation you’re ready for

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Anonymous 1w

Exactly, I'm an incel because I was cucked by fundamentalist religion and was homeschooled during formative adolescent years

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

I never had a chance and college life has cemented every "assumption" (i.e. factual foresight) that I had

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Just cause I said they aren’t crazy about me doesn’t mean that I resent them, I still regard women really highly i’m not complaining about women not liking me romantically, im complaining about people equate women not liking someone romantically to being a bad person. You can be a good person and not appeal to women in a conventional sense thats what Im trying to say

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

I love your point about changing myself to adhere tho, since that is part of the journey im going though. I can completely accept the fact that i have confidence issues, i might have internalized biases as well and I am actively working on them. I do agree that that is important!

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

no you’re missing my point 💀 it doesn’t have to do with you being a “good person” at all. women date assholes all the time unfortunately. what “appeals to women” in the conventional sense is much more than being a good person

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

I think that makes sense but is a different argument, I can stand behind what you are saying about “what appeals to women” being more than being a good person. Im just saying that in my life experience online (irl is way better tbh), many people think “not appealing to women” = sucky person. Which I am arguing is not true.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Thank you sm for having a respectful conversation about this cause its rare that the topic is even discussed😎

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