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I honestly as a grown ass man still don’t understand why communism is bad.

Anonymous 11w

As a system it’s not bad at all, it actually would be utopia if no one was corrupt. The reason it has a bad rep is because it has never worked. The people in power are always corrupt and take more for themselves than they should, leaving everyone else with less than they need.

Anonymous 11w

I have been wondering this exact thing for ever. And you know who would be perfect for the job of communism… Someone on the spectrum with a strong sense of justice.

Anonymous 11w

would you rather the workers own amazon or jeff bezos own it? that’s communism. most communities throughout history have been communist. there’s never been a completely communist country since we started defining borders. communism is how we naturally exist. capitalism goes against human nature and gives incentive to not care about human life. idk about you but i think the resources on earth belong to every single person on earth. no one has a right to claim and destroy any part of earth

Anonymous 11w

There are two types of communists: authoritarian and anarchic. They each suffer from two different problems. Authoritarian governments are authoritarian and anarchist systems are at best neglectful of the true needs of the people (especially ones with disabilities) and don’t enforce important regulations

Anonymous 11w

It’s not necessarily bad in theory, but in reality most people are selfish at heart so it wouldn’t work

Anonymous 11w

Ya know I feel like communism didn’t corrupt Russia, Russia corrupted communism lol

Anonymous 11w

Taking everything away would be bad but they’re so afraid going back to FDR policies. He won 4 times for a reason - shit with a war looming might be good to do Kenseyian economics (always temporary) so many fucking highways have to be fixed by can’t start programs because out of 7 workers 2 are standing around. We just have a hard time handing shit out to PEOPLE but no potholes doing it for foreign govts that have us by the balls and corporations? Ask Ronnie, Clinton, Bush, shit ask Carter.

Anonymous 11w

Equality for all means nothing at all. That’s what my parents learned from the old country

Anonymous 11w

This thread is actually sad and scary

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Anonymous

#1 11w

That makes sense, thank you for your Ted talk

Anonymous

OP 11w

Let’s be careful, because utopia is a big word. When the government manages your daily work it’s not always the best system. My friends wife apparently grew up in the USSR, and was slotted to be a music teacher because she was a good musician, loved the music hated the kids so she left for the US. Doesn’t really offer much opportunity for career change when you’re trying to efficiently allocate your resources.

Anonymous

#8 11w

Again thats why people say if done properly in theory it would be a utopia…

Anonymous

#9 11w

Can you please elaborate?

Anonymous

#1 11w

Communism is the idea that no one has any person property so the government owns everything. It’s completely authoritarian

Anonymous

#9 11w

Personal*

Anonymous

#9 11w

This isnt entirely true… It can be owned by either community and or state. So again if it was the ideal communism where the community owned everything and it all was perfect. It would be a utopia. In the case of the state/ government owning it it would probably be a fcking nightmare. Communism would only work if everyone was equally nice.

Anonymous

#4 11w

However that is very unlikely to happen due to greed. Heaven is technically a communist place.

Anonymous

#4 11w

You just said my post wasn’t entirely true then proceeded to explain that my post was entirely true

Anonymous

#6 11w

Authoritarian structures, of any sort, are public enemy no 1 imo, because they’re actively evil by attacking marginalized people and exploiting everyone..but anarchistic? They always end up committing passive evil by ignoring the needs of others in self interest, like an undressed mask off capitalist system where it’s every man for himself. Can’t win I guess🤷‍♂️

Anonymous

#9 11w

Can you explain why not having personal property is intrinsically bad?

Anonymous

#1 11w

Have you ever rented an apartment and owned a home? Drastically different levels of autonomy

Anonymous

#9 11w

Right, but is autonomy intrinsically desirable? Renting an apartment means I have no responsibility when the washer breaks, the landlord pays to fix it. Owning a home means I’m allowed to paint the walls and remodel it, but I have to pay for the washer.

Anonymous

#1 11w

Yes. Autonomy is intrinsically desirable. I’d rather live in a shithole house with incalculable debt and problems that can’t be fixed any time soon, that I can call MY OWN, than live at the whims of a landlord, or some other predatory owner

Anonymous

#10 11w

Intrinsic value and “id rather” are not the same thing. Having opinions is one thing, but I’m asking about whether there’s something about autonomy is always best regardless of opinions.

Anonymous

#10 11w

Living in a capitalist world instills people with values of personal freedom, so it’s natural. I have those values too (I’m also not advocating for communism in any real sense, just making the argument for why it has potential when people aren’t selfish)

Anonymous

#10 11w

Also communism isn’t supposed to be predatory! That’s exactly why I originally said it failed. People are the problem, not the idea. If people acted selflessly then communism is an amazing economic system. But, when greed and lust for power are added to the equation, it crumbles.

Anonymous

#1 11w

Alright, fine. In that case, whether or not something is OBJECTIVELY more desirable is a difficult question, but I’d still argue freedom and autonomy is more desirable. Your failures are your own, your mistakes, your choices, your problems are YOURS to fix, which is infinitely better. I can’t give you empirical evidence to support that autonomy is objectively better, because the ways in which we judge quality of life are intrinsically different depending on our preferences.

Anonymous

#10 11w

What the hell are these replies

Anonymous

#10 11w

Again, there’s still no intrinsic argument here. I swear I’m not trying to stir the pot, just trying to show that before communism was proved to fail that it seriously had potential.

Anonymous

OP 11w

You asked bro, you opened up the conversation. The discussion of autonomy and the importance of owning property is important to the discussion of Communism. I am not personally for or against, I haven’t seen it applied in beneficial ways, but I believe that it ISNT impossible under the right conditions. Not a fan of Capitalism myself either.

Anonymous

#10 11w

I’m capitalist too, I want to own my own car rather than have the government own it and let me use it. But I can’t lie, the government is a lot better at running entire road systems than I am, and having autonomous government owned cars (once the tech is perfected) would make driving infinitely safer than it is with millions of bad drivers on the roads.

Anonymous

#1 11w

Although I’m not a fan of Capitalism, I completely respect and appreciate your reasoning, that makes sense!

Anonymous

#12 11w

Is that before or after black people stopped picking cotton for them? Gimme a break! Equality isn’t just a virtue, it’s a right..the natural state of our species, unimpeded by societal constraint and degradation

Anonymous

#10 11w

You assume poorly and past judgement too quickly. Try again and read first. Stop virtue signaling bs

Anonymous

#12 11w

But I couldn’t be virtue signaling, because we just established that our rights go beyond simple virtues. Try again and read first. Stop straw manning bs